Terry, Is there any connection between the Smith and Long that you mention? My gr grandfather Soloman Long was in a livery business with a Smith in the 1860's-1870's. Soloman killed himself in 1871, leaving his business partner stuck - not to mention the wife and 10 children! This was in Norristown, although Soloman was earlier from Trapp. I'm not sure if Smith was a relative or not, so I'm wondering if yours are conected. Thanks. Langdon