Thelma, I believe that your Joseph Place , b. ca1830, was living in Upper Providence Twp. in 1850, 1860 and 1870. In 1850 he was 21 and working on the farm of Joshua Zimmerman. In 1870, he was 40 and in Upper Providence. There are more Places up in Limerick twp. I do not know his parents. The earliest Place family that I see in Montgomery Co. was Friederich and Appolonia Ploes who had a son , Johannes Jacob, baptized at Wentz's Reformed Church in Worcester Township. A Frederick Place died in Limerick township in 1818 and that may be the same Frederick, also a Benjamin Place in 1829. Glenn Landis