Hi Barbara -- Just a couple of general ideas.... 1. You have Rufus/Hiram as born in 1850. If you can possibly track down when/where he died, if you have not already, then you might get an obituary (esp if in a small town), or once you are into the era of recorded death certs, depending upon the state, there might be parents names. My earliest PA Vital Record cert is 1918 which I believe has a form date of Oct 1909, and that does call for and contain parents' names. Of course, any cert's info is about as good as the informant provides. 2. As Rufus was born in the US, then he might appear on the 1850 census (depending upon timing), and certainly upon the 1860 census (hopefully for you, with his parents). I suggest that you spend some rather grueling time perhaps (if you have not already done so) using Soundex or available resources, often available at your libraries, etc. to search for this family. good luck dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "barbara jeffries" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Schweinhart/Swinehart Hi, I trying to find the parents of Hiram/Rufus Swinehart b.c. 1850 Pennsylvania. He was a carpenter and he was found as Rufus in 1870, Montgomery Co., Pottstown and as Hiram in 1880, Lycoming, Eldred. He had sons, George and Henry and I think that he may have been a desc. of Jurg Michael Schweinhart, a Palatine who arrived in Philadelphia in 1732. Barbara __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com