Hi Helga - I live quite close to Oreland, i.e. in Fort Washington, PA. This might not be necessarily be an Eastern Montgomery County question as much as a US records question. Unless someone handles this earlier, I will check the US naturalization records at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA for short) location in Philadelphia for you on Nov 8th. What I will be looking for is a hoped for naturalization of Edwin at least. Perhaps we also will find Selma, if she lived in the Phila area when and if naturalized. This will at least give us their statement (right or wrong) as to when they arrived in the US. I will also look at the immigration list for Phila, since you said the NY/Ellis Island list did not give you a hit, and since the eldest immigrating ancestor was ticketed to Phila. If anybody else handles this request, would you or the fellow helper please let me know by the evening of Fri Nov 7. g'day to you from the other side of the planet dennis gries ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian dawes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:24 AM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Arrival in the USA Hello everyone. I live in the beautiful State of Queensland in Australia, and as I've had no experience of researching in America I'm hoping someone can help me. (I also hope I have subscribed to the right list. According to the death certificate of the son (C. Arthur Swanson) of Edwin, he lived in Montgomery County, and I'm assuming the areas I mention are also in that County). My grandfather Alfred Svantesson Sten - his family name was Svantesson but for some reason he added the Sten when he migrated - arrived in Qld. Australia in the November of 1899. Two brothers and one sister went to the US some years later. One brother, Hilding Julius, left Göteberg Sweden, Dec. 27, 1908 under the name Svantesson, but changed it later to Swanson. His ticket was for Philadelphia. Hilding married an Englishwoman Gertrude Ware, and was accidently killed in 1939. At one time he lived at Ridley Park, which I believe is outside Philidelphia. The other brother Edwin, and sister Selma also went by the name of Swanson, before or after their arrival in the United States I don't know. Edwin also married but I'm unsure to whom, and Selma remained single. Edwin lived in Oreland, which I think is also on the outskirts of Philadelphia, and passed away in 1951. Selma died in Colorado Springs in 1956. I'm trying to find when Selma and Edwin arrived in the USA, and was going to order a film of the 1910 Pennsylvania census through my local LDS Church. After checking through their Library Catalogue I discovered the films were of the many Enumeration Districts. Not knowing specific addresses, determining the ED's would be very difficult. I would be grateful for any suggestions that might help me in finding their arrival dates. I have checked the Ellis Island site and had no luck. Regards, Helga Sten ______________________________

Dennis, I answered Helga with information I found in the 1910 census for Hilding and Selma Swanson. I did not find Edwin. In the census record, it notes Hilding immigrated in 1909 and Selma in 1904 so that might be a place to start. However, we all know that those dates may be off by quite a bit as people back then either didn't know when they came over or it wasn't that important to them. In 1910, there were both in Philly and they were both using the name Swanson. See my previous post with more information from the census. Mary Ann Villanova, Pa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Gries" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] Arrival in the USA > Hi Helga - > > I live quite close to Oreland, i.e. in Fort Washington, PA. > > This might not be necessarily be an Eastern Montgomery County question as > much as a US records question. > > Unless someone handles this earlier, I will check the US naturalization > records at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA for short) > location in Philadelphia for you on Nov 8th. What I will be looking for is > a hoped for naturalization of Edwin at least. Perhaps we also will find > Selma, if she lived in the Phila area when and if naturalized. > > This will at least give us their statement (right or wrong) as to when they > arrived in the US. > > I will also look at the immigration list for Phila, since you said the > NY/Ellis Island list did not give you a hit, and since the eldest > immigrating ancestor was ticketed to Phila. > > If anybody else handles this request, would you or the fellow helper please > let me know by the evening of Fri Nov 7. > > g'day to you from the other side of the planet > > dennis gries