Dear Donna, This is not quite what you requested, but some of the names and places are the same, and the dates are close enough. Besides, the references may give you a couple of leads: It is the m. of my 5 g-grandparents Henry KNERR & Susanna MUELLER at Zion Old Organ Church in 1758 - - You are right, Providence is only about 15 miles from E. Vincent. . !SOURCES: 1). The Early Deerys of Chester County by Weldy, George M., Jr., rev. 10 Sept. 1983., copy at Chester Co. Historical Society, West Chester, PA. 2).Family Group Sheets from Dorothy Deery Haney, Beltsville, MD, 25 Jun 1992. 3).Knerr - Misc. folder, Chester Co. Hist Soc., West Chester, PA. (G. Weldy) !MARRIAGE: Ref.3). 2 Jun 1983 p.6 [Knarr-Knerr-Knorr Fam. Newsltr. ?] Information sent by member Beverly Anderson of Oak Ridge, TN: "...[Henry] was married in 1758 in Chester Co. to Elizabeth Miller (Mueller). Children and dates from Zion or Old Organ Church Book, Page 47.Chester Co.,PA. Elizabeth was daughter of Henry and Susanna (Herzog) Mueller. [10 children are named; I am descended from Susanna (the only one I have documented.)] Ref. 1 has an extensive writeup on the first 4 generations of American Deerys; Ref.2) has more dates, details. -------------- Original message from "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net>: -------------- > Hello Fellow Listers: > > Am trying to help an American student who is currently in Germany to trace his > ancestry to "the boat" - so he says. He'd like to be able to research his > "family" while there in Europe. I've currently traced his ancestry back to > Chester County and to a John and Catharine CARL who had their son, Joseph > baptized on 2-Jun-1793 in the East Vincent Reformed Church, East Vincent Twp., > Chester Co., PA.. > > I'm really leaning towards this John CARL to be the son of an Esaias CARL. > > >From The Journals of Henry Melchior Muhlenberg it is written that this Esaias > CARL lived in New Providence Twp. and had a son, Conrad who lived in Vincent > Twp.; a daughter, Elisabeth who married Christopher MÜLLER of Vincent Twp; and a > son, Johann who lived in Providence. > [Note: I've since learned that New Providence and Providence Twp. was in > Montgomery Co.] > > I found a baptismal record for a daughter of the before mentioned Elisabeth > CARL: > Zion Lutheran Church, Pikestown - Old Organ, East Pikeland Twp., Chester Co., > PA. > parents: Christoph MILLER & wife, Clara Elisabetha > child: Catharina b.23-Jun-1779 bpt.3-Oct-1779 > sponsor: Catharina CARL w/o John CARL > > I found in Strausburger & Hinke's Pennsylvania German Pioneers [ships' passenger > lists] that an Esaias CARL came to America on the ship, Edinburgh from Rotterdam > and took his Oath to the government on 5-Sep-1748 at the Philadelphia Court > House. > > Now to my questions: > Does anyone have any info on any of these persons? > Does anyone have a transcript of the Intestate Documents for an Isaiah CARL / > COREL of Vincent Twp., Chester Co., PA. dated 1824? Or for the Intestate > Documents for a John CARRELL of Vincent Twp. dated 1803???? > > Thanks a bunch for any info or help! > Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > No virus or other alerts, ever, period > One offense may result in temporary or permanent banishment from the list, > without warning. >