In a message dated 05/14/2000 11:25:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sashammo@bellatlantic.net writes: << IORM = Imperial Order of Red Men. It was a men's fraternal organization popular years ago. I'm not sure if they still exist or not. >> Paula, I believe I've addressed this to you before. There were apparently "tribes" within this club. It had nothing to do with being part indian, but I do believe this must be where the "indian" belief about your ancestor got it's start. You might want to do some research on the memberships. Hope all is well with you. Bet you are enjoying the Jersey Shore. I'm envious. G