Hi Bob, I am interested in information concerning Veronica and George Philip DOTTERER. Their daughter married Jacob MARKLEY. I do not go back with this family but have information concerning the MARKLEY and ZIEBER families. Regards, Cynthia Zieber Santa Rosa, CA You wrote: I have a long list of direct surnames that I am, or eventually will be, working on in Montgomery County. l am very willing to share any info I have with anyone who is interested, and hopeful that some people are working on my lines, and will help me. DOTTERER, Veronica, Hieronimus, George Philip Bob Reifsneider BobR@aol.com Orange Park, FL

Hi Gregg, My Jacob Miller lived in Faulkners Swamp located between Montegomery and Berks Co,Pa Let me know if it is the same. Thanks, Kris

Does anyone know if the Yeagers in Berks county are connected to the family in Montgomery County? I have some info on the family in Berks as they are inter-married into my Bingeman/Bingaman line. have done some work on the Bingeman of Montgomery County when it was part of Philadelphia County. Would like to exchange info. Ann abjacobs1@aol.com

Looking for the following Montgomery County surnames: SPERRY - If you have any SPERRY please contact me. KUHNLEY OXLEY SHEIVE YERKES FITZGERALD MOYER Dana Rieder danakay@dmv.com

In a message dated 9/18/99 5:33:21 AM Mountain Daylight Time, BobR@aol.com writes: << YERGER >> Bob, My gggrandmother was married to a Preston Yerger. Don't know much about the family yet but I do know that there are alot of Yerger's buried in Falkner Swamp Cemetary - hope this helps. Julie

<< BERGEY, Hannah M., Abraham, Abraham, Christian, John Ulrich(immigrant) >> 1728 - Philip ENGARD was a "Palatine" immigrant to America. He signs with "X" on ship list and is named as "Hans Philip". His father may have been Jacob ENGAR/ENGER who is buying land in Salford Twp, Montgomery Co., PA by 1728 from Johannes Ulrich BERGEY. 1747 - Philip ENGERT and wife, Catherine Elizabeth, sponsor the baptism of Catharina Elizabeth, dau. of Christoph BERGER & wife, Maria, at the New Providence Augustus Lutheran Church in Trapp, New Providence Twp., Montgomery Co., PA. And the HALDEMAN name: It is thought that Jacob ENGAR/ENGER never lived on the land in Lower Salford per History of Montgomery Co., PA. However, from the Genealogies of PA Families, pp. 707 - 719 indicates Jacob ENGERS did live there (very near Nicholas Haldeman, Sr.) before moving to Coventry, Chester Co., PA in 1735. It was abt 1742 that Nicholas Haldeman moved to Coventry Twp. also. (Haldeman was from Switzerland.) Sources: Bulletin of Historical Society of Montgomery Co., Sketches of Lower Salford Twp., Montgomery Co., PA; Genealogies of PA Families. I would love to know if there is some family connection of BERGEYs & HALDEMANs to ENGARDs. We have never found the surname for Philip ENGARDs wife, Catharine Elisabeth ______. Gerre Engard Byrd.

For what its worth - there were at least two Ephraims in Bucks Co also. My gg-grandfather was Ephraim Doan Tomlinson of Southampton, Bucks. The original immigrant of his line was Richard who came to Phila in early 1700's and oddly, there were no Ephraims in this line until mine (b. 1816). Somewhere I read that at least one brother of Richard came also but haven't researched them. Diane Adams In a message dated 9/17/99 9:44:47 PM Mountain Daylight Time, FROSTAD@aol.com writes: > ================= > The NJ/Phila Tomlinsons are concentrated on the name of "Ephraim" in every > generation. They very early had mills in South Jersey, then Gloucester Co, > now Camden Co. (I grew up in that area, and moved here on retirement). I > can give you their pedigree chart as I drew it up for them. > -------------

Kris, Thanks for the message. Where did your Jacob live?? The one that I have may have been born later than yours. He lived in Upper Hanover Township, Montgomery Co. Gregg

Hi MONTCO Listers, I have a long list of direct surnames that I am, or eventually will be, working on in Montgomery County. l am very willing to share any info I have with anyone who is interested, and hopeful that some people are working on my lines, and will help me. I would also like to thank the woman who suggested we all list our surnames as a way of sparking activity on the site. It seems to have worked very well. REIFSNEIDER/REIFSCHNEIDER/REIFSNYDER, etc., Robert J.(me), Clarence F., Frederick S., James E., John S., John, Herman, Michael?(immigrant), Julianna. SCHEFFEY, Sarah B., Israel F., Aaron Y., Henrick, George F., Johannas H. ELLIS, Annie L.(immigrant) BERGEY, Hannah M., Abraham, Abraham, Christian, John Ulrich(immigrant) BURNS, Elizabeth H. SCHOENER/SHANER, etc., Catherine, Andreas, John Melchior NEUMAN, Charlotta GEIGER, Anna Marie YOST, Mary Magdalena, John Philip, John Philip FILLMAN, Maria, Abraham WEINRICH, Anna Margaretha BERNINGER, Rosina, Nicoulas LIEBENGUTH, Maria DOTTERER, Veronica, Hieronimus, George Philip WESEL, Catharina HALTEMAN/ HALDEMAN, etc., Maria, Christian, Christian, Nicholas MOYER, Mary FREED/ FREIDT, Magdalena, John, Johannas KREY, Catherine, John KOLB, Maria, Martin, Dielman Tilman OPDEGRAF/ OP DEN GRAEFF, etc., Sytgne, Herman, Herman VAN BEBBER, Hester PLETJES, Greitjen SCHUMACHER, Angenes VAN SINTERN, Magdalena, Isaac CLASSEN, Cornelie WEYAND, Estella M., Jacob R., William D. STELTZ, Margaret S. Peter M. RENNINGER, Rebecca G., Heinrich YERGER, Amanda M., John GILBERT, Magdalena MILLER, Sophia Many thanks, Bob Reifsneider BobR@aol.com Orange Park, FL

Alan: Do you have info on your Catherine Boyer? Did she marry Zenas Savage from Coventry, Chester Co.? I have a Catherine Boyer born 1767 died 1857 Phoenixville. Any connection? They had 11 children: Nathanial Savage, Hannah, Juliana, George, twins Zenas M and Sarah, Catherine, Lydia, Nancy, Luzetta and Eliza Savage. between 1794 and 1815 . Diana

LANDIS SAVAGE MOHR KERST NEUKIRCH BERTOLET DE TURCK JONES in Chester, Berks and Montgomery Counties Diana

Lois, I see you have RAMBO on your surname list. Do you have anything on the Peter Rambo referred to in the following article taken from ADVERTISEMENTS AND NOTICES OF INTEREST From Norristown, PA Newspapers, Vol II, 1822-1827 Compiled by Judith A.H. Meier?: "Friday 8, 1823" "ON friday afternoon last, Peter RAMBO (shoemaker) and Nathan MILLER attempted to cross the river Schuylkill, opposite this borough, on the ice, but unfortunately before they got half way over, the ice gave way, and both went into the water, 8 or 10 feet deep. By their cries assistance came in time to save Nathan MILLER -- every exertion was made to save Mr. RAMBO also, but he perished before he could be taken from the water. His remains were decently interred on saturday last. We hope the above will be a sufficent caution to too frequent adventurers. Several others have already very narrowly escaped the fate of Mr. RAMBO this season". I am intertested in the names of both of the wives and other family members, how old the actors were, and any other information pertinent to this incident. Thanks, Dan Miller North TX LOIS E SHAINLINE wrote: > > My Montgomery County Surnames are as follows: > >RAMBO

My Montgomery County Surnames are as follows: SHAINLINE NIPPES DeHAVEN GRIFFITH EDDLEMAN HOLSTEIN RAMBO MOORE WAYNE LEVERING IDDINGS BOWKER YOCUM I have much on some of these names and almost nothing on others. Lois

KREISHER George Jacob married O'BRIAN Julia Anna Children; KREISHER John H. married WILEY Elsie KREISHER George Morris married STACEY Edith May KREISHER Mahlon KREISHER Laura married HENDRICKS KREISHER Marie married SELLERS Mark KREISHER Anna married KREISHER Florence married MCCOOL

Hi, I'm a Bedford Co volunteer genealogist, and also a close friend of some Quaker Tomlinsons in NJ. Yes, I have seen that name here in our county. I work at the hist soc every Friday and can check out a few things for you. But, if FLOYD doesn't give us too much rain, I'll heading for Annapolis in the morning and won't be working this week. ---------------- Hope FLOYD didn’t give you too many problems! I am a native of "Bard Hollow" near West End in Juniata Twp. I grew up on the farm that my GGF Rev. D.S.A. Tomlinson purchased in 1883 after he sold the parsonage that is pictured in the 1884 Beers Atlas of Bedford Co . The mercantile store in this drawing was moved to the farm and is still being used by my brother, who now owns the farm, as his woodworking shop. ================= The NJ/Phila Tomlinsons are concentrated on the name of "Ephraim" in every generation. They very early had mills in South Jersey, then Gloucester Co, now Camden Co. (I grew up in that area, and moved here on retirement). I can give you their pedigree chart as I drew it up for them. ------------- I have tried to connect my GGGGf Joseph Tomlinson to the Maryland clan and can find no connection - even though there was a Joseph and Benjamin (from Maryland) who both owned land in Londonderry Twp, Bedford Co, South of Hyndman and also in Somerset County up on the mountain from Helixville. 1. Joseph Tomlinson (b. 23 Mar 1772 d. 06 Aug 1858), The 1884 Atlas of Bedford Co - article on D.S.A. Tomlinson is only one of three references that I have found about my Joseph. This article says he came to Bedford Co in 1810 from Adams County. Shortly after arriving, his first wife died and outliving his second wife he lived the remainder of his years with son Joseph W. The second reference to him is the Spring Meadow cemetery listing of his first wife, Sarah McCreary - "consort of Joseph Tomlinson" and the third reference is one I found in DAR records at Ancestry.com and then I got copies of the actual documents. This was the first document I found regarding Joseph’s second son ‘s name - Benjamin. I have never found where Joseph is buried. He is not with Sarah at Spring Meadow. And he is not in any listing I have seen of Messiah Lutheran Church where his son Joseph W. and most of his children are buried. He could be buried somewhere with his second wife but I have never been able to find out who she was. I have not been able to locate Joseph in Adams county or find out who his parents were. I believe he was in Adams Co because Sarah McCreary’s parents Amos McCreary Sr. and Hannah Whinery came to Bedford Co from Adams Co. Fred Ickes from Fishertown, local Quaker and McCreary expert, doubts that Amos McCreary is Sarah’s father because neither she or her descendants were named in Amos Sr.’s will. However, Hannah Whinery’s father’s will from Adams Co. refers to his grandaughter Sarah McCreary. I have found lots of info on the Whinery’s who were Quakers. The children of Amos McCreary, Sr. were also active in Spring Meadow but Joseph may not have been a Quaker. His son Joseph W. was an elder in Messiah Church and produced four sons who became Lutheran ministers. I have lots of info on Joseph W. and his descendants. Because of the DAR info, I just this week received word from a "look-up" in the will index of Jefferson County, W. Va. that there is indeed a Benjamin Tomlinson will listed for 1886. I have sent off for this will. Dad remembers his mother saying that after the Civil War her Grandfather, Joseph W. and his brother never spoke to each other again. Now I know why. He lived his life in Charles Town, W.Va. and married into a Virginia family. This is also why I never found a reference to him in Bedford Co. ---------------- This is the story of my family, what I know and what I don’t know. Other than my Tomlinson family, I have found only three other references to Tomlinsons in Bedford Co. that I cannot connect to my family. 1. The "Release of Legatees" for Lydia Ann Tomlinson Cleaver listing Montgomery Co & Phila residents 2. In the 1850 Census of Bedford Co. there is an Ann and a John listed as well as my Joseph W. family 3. The Benjamin and Joseph of Maryland who owned land in Londonderry Twp. So this is why I am trying to track down Lydia Ann family to try to find some connection. If she was from the Philadelphia area, why did she come to Bedford Co.? The administrator of Lydia’s will was Uriah Blackburn, brother of Tom Cleaver’s first wife. I believe Uriah Blackburn owned property near Joseph W. Tomlinson at Dutch corner. Could Lydia have been a relative of Joseph, visiting Pa and met Tom through his first wife’s brother?? Perhaps I am grasping at this point? I have 286MB of info in my Tomlinson file and still no parents for Joseph. What else do you do when you hit the brick wall and spend so much time getting no where?? Sorry to ramble. Thanks for any help you can provide. Joyce Duppstadt Frostad Anchorage - ----------------------------------------------------- This is the DAR info: The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 85 page 284 Miss Emma T. Strider. DAR ID Number: 84728 Born in Charles Town, W. Va. Descendant of Baltis (Balthasar) Hinkel, Corp. John Bond, Amos McCreary, Nathaniel Offutt, and Samuel Offutt, as follows: 1. Luke Cheney Strider (b. 1849 d. 13 Jun 1935), m. 1880, Mary Tomlinson.(b. ? d. 27 Mar 1934) 2. John Hinkel Strider (1819-87), m. 1842, Amanda Cheney (1822-1907); Benjamin Tomlinson (10 Dec 1805 d. 1886), m. 1830, Emma Gibbons (04 Apr 1808-1872). 3. Philip Strider (d. 1830), m. 1805, Catherine Hinkel (1770-1866); Luke Cheney (1793-1825), m. 1822, Matilda Shawen; Joseph Tomlinson (b. 23 Mar 1772 d. 06 Aug 1858), m. 01 May 1801, Sarah McCreary (b. 1777 d. 24 Dec 1819); Gilbert Gibbons (d. 1826), m. 1805, Sarah Offutt (d. 1821 4. Baltis Hinkel, m. —, Elizabeth Grove (Graf); Robert Cheney (1767-1830), m., abt. 1789, Jely Bond (1769-1855); Amos McCreary, m. Hannah Whinery; Samuel Owen Offutt, m. Elizabeth Hite (1761-1845). 5. John Bond. Nathaniel Offutt, m. Elizabeth Owen. Baltis Hinkel (1737-1804) was an Associator of Frederick County, Md. He was born and died in Frederick County, Md. John Bond served as corporal, 1782, 1st company, Maryland Artillery. He died, 1808, in Washington County, Md. [p.284] Amos McCreary served as a private in Capt. Andrew Patterson's company, York County Pennsylvania militia. He died, after 1790, in Bedford County, Pa. Nathaniel Offutt (1737-86) was appointed member of the Committee of Observation for Frederick County, Md., 1775. He was private in the 5th company, Middle Battalion, Montgomery County, Maryland militia. He was born in Frederick County. Samuel Owen Offutt (1760-1829) served as a private in the 5th company, Middle Battalion, Montgomery County, Maryland militia. He was born in Frederick County, Md.; died in Charles Town, Va. (now W. Va.).

In a message dated 09/17/1999 9:18:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LOIS_SHAINLINE@prodigy.net writes: << EDDLEMAN >> I have a little bit of EDDLEMAN: Descendants of John EDDLEMAN 1 John EDDLEMAN b: February 22, 1815 d: 1900 .. +Catherine H. "Kate" ENGARD b: September 11, 1814 d: 1916 m: Bef. 1840 ..... 2 Charles Chalkley EDDLEMAN b: 1840 d: 1907 ......... +Mary Gertrude UNKNOWN b: 1841 d: 1930 ............. 3 Annetta EDDLEMAN b: June 1874 ................. +Edward M. B. MOLL b: October 1873 ..... 2 George Dallas EDDLEMAN b: Abt. 1844 d: Bet. 1880 - 1890 ......... +Madura A. ROWE m: November 04, 1869 in Phila., Phila., PA ............. 3 Harry EDDLEMAN ..... 2 Mary Gertrude EDDLEMAN b: October 1849 d: 1930 ..... 2 Benjamin (Franklin?) "Frank" EDDLEMAN b: Abt. 1854 Gerre Engard Byrd

----- Original Message ----- From: GENE B ROOKS <GENEROOKS@prodigy.net> To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 11:06 AM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] BOYER > Alan, is your BOYER Paul Boyer of Whitmarsh who died in 1765? Gene in > Gotha Gene, My Boyer/Bayer/Beyer were descendants of Christopher BAYER, b abt. 1677 in Dakenhime, Rhineland-Pflaz and immigrated to Montgomery Co. or what was then Philadelphia Co. on the Pennsylvania Merchant Sept 10, 1731. I don't have a Paul Boyer. His descendants to three generations were: Descendants of Christopher Bayer 1 Christopher Bayer Born: Abt. 1677 in Dakenheim near Grunstadt, Rheinland-Pfalz d: Aft. 1751 . +Anna Maria Kuelisch Born: Abt. 1681 in Neuses near Dinkelsbuhl, Bayern d: Bef. 1751 ...... 2 Johanna Regina Bayer Born: Abt. 1703 in Germany ...... 2 Johan Philip Bayer Born: Abt. 1703 in Dakeram, Palatinate, Germany d: May 07, 1753 .......... +Anna Maria Bauer Born: Abt. 1703 ...... 2 Gotthart Lorenz Bayer Born: Abt. 1705 d: May 06, 1718 ...... 2 [1] Andreas Bayer Born: November 30, 1709 in Palatinate, Germany d: June 1779 .......... +Susanna Catharine Bergheimer Born: 1714 in Klein-Niedsheim, Frankenthal, Reinpflatz, Germany d: August 03, 1744 .............. 3 John Henry Boyer Born: Abt. 1733 .............. 3 John Valentine Boyer Born: March 02, 1733/34 .............. 3 Maria Barbara Bayer Born: Abt. 1735 .................. +Johan Balthaser Mueller Born: Abt. 1730 ...................... 4 Anna Maria Mueller Born: August 02, 1755 in Upper Salford Twp., Montgomery, PA d: January 11, 1839 .......................... +Leonard Eckert Born: Abt. 1746 in Zweibrucken, Germany d: October 22, 1820 ...................... 4 Andreas Mueller Born: September 19, 1756 in Upper Salford, Montgomery, PA ...................... 4 Maria Barbara Mueller Born: January 11, 1758 in Old Goshenhoppen, Upper Salford, Montgomery, PA d: August 09, 1831 .......................... +Jacob Wambolt ...................... 4 John Christian Mueller Born: December 09, 1759 in Upper Salford, Montgomery, PA ...................... 4 Maria Christina Mueller Born: July 10, 1766 in Upper Salford, Montgomery, PA .............. 3 Leonard Boyer Born: May 01, 1737 .............. 3 John William Boyer Born: January 31, 1738/39 .............. 3 Philip Boyer Born: November 13, 1740 ...................... 4 Philip Boyer Born: December 14, 1768 ...... *2nd Wife of [1] Andreas Bayer: .......... +Anna Maria Born: Abt. 1720 d: April 29, 1788 ...... 2 Christina Agnes Bayer Born: Abt. 1712 d: December 21, 1718 ...... 2 Johann Heinrich Bayer Born: Abt. 1714 d: April 13, 1716 ...... 2 Johann Jacob Bayer Born: January 17, 1716/17 in Dakenheim near Grunstadt, Rheinland-Pfalz d: May 17, 1718 ...... 2 Ferdinand Bayer Born: January 29, 1717/18 in Dakenheim near Grunstadt, Rheinland-Pfalz d: 1719 ...... 2 Johann Theobald Bayer Born: January 29, 1717/18 in Dakenheim near Grunstadt, Rheinland-Pfalz d: 1719 ...... 2 Johannes Bayer Born: January 29, 1717/18 in Dakenheim near Grunstadt, Rheinland-Pfalz d: 1719 ...... 2 Hannah Regina Bayer Born: August 22, 1722 in Dakenheim near Grunstadt, Rheinland-Pfalz ...... 2 [2] John Henry Bayer Born: May 26, 1724 in Dakenheim near Grunstadt, Rheinland-Pfalz d: May 28, 1814 .......... +Susanna Weber ...... *2nd Wife of [2] John Henry Bayer: .......... +Mary Magdalena Kerger Born: February 12, 1713/14 in Kreuzenach, Palatinate, Germany .............. 3 Jacob Boyer Born: August 1753 d: February 11, 1796 .................. +Catharine Schantz ...................... 4 Jacob Boyer Born: January 09, 1777 d: March 13, 1853 .......................... +Elizabeth Hilber Born: Abt. 1777 .............. 3 Catherine Boyer Born: November 17, 1775 .............. 3 Henrich Boyer Born: October 19, 1778 d: March 18, 1857 .................. +Sarah Krebs .............. 3 Samuel Boyer Born: September 02, 1780 d: May 03, 1807 .................. +Anna Maria Schnider .............. 3 Daniel Boyer Born: September 12, 1782 d: April 23, 1869 .................. +Salome Burkhart Born: Abt. 1782 .............. 3 Susanna Boyer Born: August 29, 1787 d: May 10, 1863 .................. +Jacob Hauk Born: Abt. 1785 .............. 3 Elizabeth Boyer Born: February 08, 1789 .............. 3 Johannas Boyer Born: November 21, 1790 .................. +Rebecca? .............. 3 Philip Boyer Born: March 24, 1792 d: February 04, 1822 .................. +Sophia? ...... 2 George Bayer Born: September 15, 1726 in Dakenheim near Grunstadt, Rheinland-Pfalz d: April 23, 1792 .......... +Catherine Geist Born: Abt. 1726

i am researching the following surnames: LANDIS WOLFGANG MOYER

Ok, here area few of my surnames with corresponding places and furthest back: WAGNER {Blue Mountains (of Berks/Schuylkill/Lehigh County)(born there), Royersford, Limerick, Phoenixville AREA} [John W., born in Mar. 13, 1833] BUCHERT {Limerick, New Hanover} [David, born in late Dec. 1812] STAUFFER {Pike Twp in Berks, Limerick} [James W., born in 1837] WADE {Limerick} [Robert, born ca. 1859] HOFF {Limerick} [Aaron, born Feb 1822] Those are the main substance of my research, but here are all of the other names: Gall, Scheifley, Koch, Diener, Maier, etc. My main area is in and around Limerick Twp. (that's my residence) Anyone have any matches? Thanx, Mark MAC3387@aol.com

Edie,and all, I have Genealogical Landmarks and Milestones of the Lower Perkiomen Country" by Ralph Johnson and David Bergey, which I will be glad to do lookups in, but no copies. It is a reprint presently available from Adams Apple Press. It has several pages devoted to the HALLMAN family. It helped us determine that Anthony's daughter, Christina, is the one who married Johannes LeFEVER, daughter of Abraham of Skippack. I am also interested in learning more about Richard JACOBS who married Barbara, another of Anthony HALLMAN's daughters. Does anyone have anything on the children of Richard and Barbara H. JACOBS? Gene in Gotha Always seeking ROOKS & BALLENTINE