Sorry. That was a bad slip on my part. Michael Stein m Rebecca Zimmerman in 1797 and died in Roaring Creek area 1800. I am interested in the Michael Stein who previously to that married Catherine Brobst/Probst, and who is read out of the will of her uncle and guardian Valentine Probst/Brobst. I want to know if this Michael and Catherine had children and if so who. Also if Catherine died before 1797 so that i might be dealing with 2nd marriage. Michael Stein's family was from Richmond twp, Berks Co, but I have references to him being in Lehigh Co. If any info is given about Michael's parents, I'd be glad to add that to my Stein file. I already have the info from the Lehigh Co Hist Book. There seem to have been many Steins in Lehigh so don't bother with any name other than Michael. And thanks so much for checking out those two books for me. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ivana Erney <spfriends@zdial.com> To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] Lehigh Co. Historical Society Search > Cathy, > > I'm going around 10:30 am, so I hope you get this email before then, if not, > I'm also going on Tuesday, so either way, I'll check for you.. Do you have > dates for these people, like born and died. It would make my search a little > easier. > > Ivana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cathy Berger <o2bab@bedford.net> > To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 7:01 AM > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] Lehigh Co. Historical Society Search > > > > That is one FANTASTIC place to browse. I see that i will have visit it, > > since I've missed it on my other trips to the area. IF you have the time > I > > am trying to find info on Michael Stein who married Catharine Brobst. The > > two books on Brobst are 929.2 Brobst and the same with B7, 1996 added. > > Michael Stein also married Rebecca Zimmerman and there might be a > reference > > to him in 929.2 Zim. I am really looking for his children so I can figure > > out if this is the same Michael Stein or two! I descend from Rebecca > > Zimmerman and Michael Stein. (I have seen the Stein books listed) > > > > If you don't have time, would you ask what such a search would cost, if > they > > have someone who does searches. THANKS. > > > > Cathy Berger > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ivana E. <spfriends@zdial.com> > > To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 5:58 PM > > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Lehigh Co. Historical Society Search > > > > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > On Monday and Tuesday, I'm going to be going to the Lehigh County > > Historical > > > Society. I am willing to look something up for you. > > > > > > The Lehigh County Historical Society has a nice list of what they have > in > > > their library. Records fro churches etc. They even have information > for > > > Berks county and Montgomery County. Etc. Please go to their website at > > > http://www.voicenet.com/~lchs/ and check to see if there is something > they > > > have that you would like me to look up for you. > > > > > > They have it indexed as well, please include your reference number as > > well. > > > > > > Ivana > > > > > > *************************************************************** > > > MAKE MONEY ONLINE NOW JUST BY SURFING THE WEB! > > > http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BNU976 > > > GenWeb Search Engine - Where are your roots? > > > http://genweb.virtualave.net > > > Cyber Friends - Over 66 Chats, 25 Message Boards! The only way to make > > > friends online! > > > http://www.singleparentfriends.com or http://join.at/cyberfriends > > > Emails: spfriends@zdial.com ivanae@freepcmail.com > genweb@netzero.net > > > > > > > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > > > Support Rootsweb with a donation it will be used to keep > > > this Genealogy Resource online. > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > > > > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > > Support Rootsweb with a donation it will be used to keep > > this Genealogy Resource online. > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > List owner ndwilson@swbell.net > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

I have a DAVIS line also. I don't have any idea parents' names of Elizabeth DAVIS. Sure would appreciate some leads. Descendants of James ENGARD 1 James ENGARD b: Bef. 1774 d: June 03, 1791 ... +Elizabeth DAVIS m: February 16, 1791 in , Philadelphia, PA d: 1792 ..... 2 Regina Elizabeth ENGARD b: February 13, 1792 d: September 08, 1870 .......... +Isaac LEWALLEN b: July 28, 1793 m: November 24, 1815 in Phila., Phila., PA d: September 15, 1837 Gerre Engard Byrd

Diane, You mentioned in your post that you have John T. Humphrey's book "Montgomery County Births, 1682-1800". I have a very common name, but particular families with no dates yet for any of the births. I'd be grateful if you could check for them. Thomas DAVIS & wife Elinor ? had children Thomas, David, Elinor (m Jones) and Elizabeth (m Gordon). They were in Hatfield Montgomery county possibly as early as 1724, definitely by 1740. I don't know where they came from. Thomas died in 1777 and the girls were married, so births would be mid-1700's, anywhere in Phila general area. David DAVIS m Elizabeth ? and had children John, Thomas, Henry, Archibald, David, Elizabeth (m Abraham Garner) and Mary. Of David's children, all except John were minors in 1815, when guardians were appointed for them. Thomas DAVIS (wife unknown) had children John, David, James, Eleanor (m Peter BURK), Thomas, Isabella (m John HARTZLE), Margaretta. All of these children were adults in father's estate settlement of 1815. Both men died in 1815, and their estate records and property were in Hatfield Twp, Montgomery Co. Thanks in advance, Edie

Cathy, I'm going around 10:30 am, so I hope you get this email before then, if not, I'm also going on Tuesday, so either way, I'll check for you.. Do you have dates for these people, like born and died. It would make my search a little easier. Ivana ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Berger <o2bab@bedford.net> To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] Lehigh Co. Historical Society Search > That is one FANTASTIC place to browse. I see that i will have visit it, > since I've missed it on my other trips to the area. IF you have the time I > am trying to find info on Michael Stein who married Catharine Brobst. The > two books on Brobst are 929.2 Brobst and the same with B7, 1996 added. > Michael Stein also married Rebecca Zimmerman and there might be a reference > to him in 929.2 Zim. I am really looking for his children so I can figure > out if this is the same Michael Stein or two! I descend from Rebecca > Zimmerman and Michael Stein. (I have seen the Stein books listed) > > If you don't have time, would you ask what such a search would cost, if they > have someone who does searches. THANKS. > > Cathy Berger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ivana E. <spfriends@zdial.com> > To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 5:58 PM > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Lehigh Co. Historical Society Search > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > On Monday and Tuesday, I'm going to be going to the Lehigh County > Historical > > Society. I am willing to look something up for you. > > > > The Lehigh County Historical Society has a nice list of what they have in > > their library. Records fro churches etc. They even have information for > > Berks county and Montgomery County. Etc. Please go to their website at > > http://www.voicenet.com/~lchs/ and check to see if there is something they > > have that you would like me to look up for you. > > > > They have it indexed as well, please include your reference number as > well. > > > > Ivana > > > > *************************************************************** > > MAKE MONEY ONLINE NOW JUST BY SURFING THE WEB! > > http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BNU976 > > GenWeb Search Engine - Where are your roots? > > http://genweb.virtualave.net > > Cyber Friends - Over 66 Chats, 25 Message Boards! The only way to make > > friends online! > > http://www.singleparentfriends.com or http://join.at/cyberfriends > > Emails: spfriends@zdial.com ivanae@freepcmail.com genweb@netzero.net > > > > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > > Support Rootsweb with a donation it will be used to keep > > this Genealogy Resource online. > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Support Rootsweb with a donation it will be used to keep > this Genealogy Resource online. > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Sue, The following addresses will eventually get to the County seat of Montgomery Co....... (Norristown.) www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm Snail mail: Montgomery County Archives 1880 Markley St. Norristown. Pa 19401 Phone (610) 278-3441 Fax (610)292-4966 e-mail: cfaust@MONTCOPA.ORG (NOT A URL) I hope this is of some assistance. Fred Awktc@aol.com

In a message dated 10/30/99 6:23:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, SMoore5234@aol.com writes: > Can someone on this message board tell me if Montgomery County is the right > place to look for info on Horsham and Moreland Manor during the 1700's? Am > researching my Parry family. Thank you! Also where can I find address > for the court house? Sue, Horsham and Moreland (or the Manor of Moorland) have been part of Montgomery Co since Montgomery Co was created in 1784. Before that they were part of Philadelphia Co. The courthouse for Montgomery Co is in Norristown.Sorry I don't have the address but I am sure it is on the Web. You said you were looking for Parry. There are many Parry births listed in John T. Humphrey's book "Montgomery County Births, 1682-1800". There are too many to list them all but I would be happy to look some up for you. Diane

hi diana: boy, you're a bit further back than I am. actually i've been concentrating on my mom's dad, nicholas diachynsky;; from galicia, austria; or ukraine. there are so many landises, i figured i let someone else bang it around for a while and work on mom's side. sorry i cant help out yet; but i've saved your letter and when i get down that road, will cross reference. thanks val

Can someone on this message board tell me if Montgomery County is the right place to look for info on Horsham and Moreland Manor during the 1700's? Am researching my Parry family. Thank you! Also where can I find address for the court house? Sue

I was wondering if anyone is going to their historical society? If so can you do a look up for me? I'm trying to find information on my 3rd great Grandfather CORNELIUS FIRING. He was born on 6/26/1840 and d. 5/20/1900. HIs fathers name was William FEIRING and mothers name was Margaret SPOHN. I need someone to look up in the Christ Oley Lutheran Church, Oley Twp. Berks Co. Book. I have Cornelius's Baptismal Date, but I dont know anything on his parents. Cornelius wasn't living with his parents in the 1850 Census. So I dont know what happened to his parents. Perhaps something in that book will give me an answer as to who and what happened to Cornelius Firing's parents. My family and other researchers that I have found online tell me that Cornelius was the last chief of his tribe. However, no proof of this has been found yet. The Census records list Cornelius as a white man. SO i'm a little stumped. There are tons of different spellings for this surname, so i'm only going to mention a few. These are: FEIRING, FIERING, FIRING, FIREING, FEYRING, FEYERING, FEURING, ETC. Any help would be appreciated. Ivana *************************************************************** MAKE MONEY ONLINE NOW JUST BY SURFING THE WEB! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BNU976 GenWeb Search Engine - Where are your roots? http://genweb.virtualave.net Cyber Friends - Over 66 Chats, 25 Message Boards! The only way to make friends online! http://www.singleparentfriends.com or http://join.at/cyberfriends Emails: spfriends@zdial.com ivanae@freepcmail.com genweb@netzero.net

The only book i see is the one below that they have..coudl this be the one you would like me to check out? 974.827 Ma k History of Macungie founded as Millerstown in 1776, incorporated as a borough and renamed in 1875 Knauss, Oscar Penrose 1932 ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Ziegler <zinc@mail.usmo.com> To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] Lehigh Co. Historical Society Search > >On Monday and Tuesday, I'm going to be going to the Lehigh County Historical > >Society. I am willing to look something up for you. > > Ivana, > > Thanks for the offer. I did not have enough time to adequately search the > LCHS site. > However, I am looking for information on the ZIEGLER family. Specifically, > 1) Immigrant and early settler Melchior ZIEGLER, and his sons, Philip and > Abraham (only two known by name) > 2) They lived in and around Macugie Tp. There is supposedly a book > entitled the "History of Macugie TP" > 3) Melchior was an organizer and member of Ziegel Church c1749. > > Anything you can do would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if there > are any charges involved. > > Blessings to you, > Brad Ziegler > Union, MO. > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Support Rootsweb with a donation it will be used to keep > this Genealogy Resource online. > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

>On Monday and Tuesday, I'm going to be going to the Lehigh County Historical >Society. I am willing to look something up for you. Ivana, Thanks for the offer. I did not have enough time to adequately search the LCHS site. However, I am looking for information on the ZIEGLER family. Specifically, 1) Immigrant and early settler Melchior ZIEGLER, and his sons, Philip and Abraham (only two known by name) 2) They lived in and around Macugie Tp. There is supposedly a book entitled the "History of Macugie TP" 3) Melchior was an organizer and member of Ziegel Church c1749. Anything you can do would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if there are any charges involved. Blessings to you, Brad Ziegler Union, MO.

That is one FANTASTIC place to browse. I see that i will have visit it, since I've missed it on my other trips to the area. IF you have the time I am trying to find info on Michael Stein who married Catharine Brobst. The two books on Brobst are 929.2 Brobst and the same with B7, 1996 added. Michael Stein also married Rebecca Zimmerman and there might be a reference to him in 929.2 Zim. I am really looking for his children so I can figure out if this is the same Michael Stein or two! I descend from Rebecca Zimmerman and Michael Stein. (I have seen the Stein books listed) If you don't have time, would you ask what such a search would cost, if they have someone who does searches. THANKS. Cathy Berger ----- Original Message ----- From: Ivana E. <spfriends@zdial.com> To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 5:58 PM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Lehigh Co. Historical Society Search > Hi everyone! > > On Monday and Tuesday, I'm going to be going to the Lehigh County Historical > Society. I am willing to look something up for you. > > The Lehigh County Historical Society has a nice list of what they have in > their library. Records fro churches etc. They even have information for > Berks county and Montgomery County. Etc. Please go to their website at > http://www.voicenet.com/~lchs/ and check to see if there is something they > have that you would like me to look up for you. > > They have it indexed as well, please include your reference number as well. > > Ivana > > *************************************************************** > MAKE MONEY ONLINE NOW JUST BY SURFING THE WEB! > http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BNU976 > GenWeb Search Engine - Where are your roots? > http://genweb.virtualave.net > Cyber Friends - Over 66 Chats, 25 Message Boards! The only way to make > friends online! > http://www.singleparentfriends.com or http://join.at/cyberfriends > Emails: spfriends@zdial.com ivanae@freepcmail.com genweb@netzero.net > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Support Rootsweb with a donation it will be used to keep > this Genealogy Resource online. > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Valerie: I am interested in your LANDIS surname. I have a Daniel Landis born 10/27/1803 married Elizabeth JONES and cannot find his parents. He was on the 1840 Census in E Nantmeal, Chester Co, 1850-1860 in Warwick Twp, 1870 in N Coventry. His youngest son Daniel W Landis (born 8/2/1850 lived in Pottstown until his death in 1886. Another son William H Landis born abt 1838 also lived in that vicinity. A third son, Allen J Landis, died in Civil War in 1864 but stated he was from Pottstown when he enlisted in 1862 at age 18. Any connection? Diana

Hi everyone! On Monday and Tuesday, I'm going to be going to the Lehigh County Historical Society. I am willing to look something up for you. The Lehigh County Historical Society has a nice list of what they have in their library. Records fro churches etc. They even have information for Berks county and Montgomery County. Etc. Please go to their website at http://www.voicenet.com/~lchs/ and check to see if there is something they have that you would like me to look up for you. They have it indexed as well, please include your reference number as well. Ivana *************************************************************** MAKE MONEY ONLINE NOW JUST BY SURFING THE WEB! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BNU976 GenWeb Search Engine - Where are your roots? http://genweb.virtualave.net Cyber Friends - Over 66 Chats, 25 Message Boards! The only way to make friends online! http://www.singleparentfriends.com or http://join.at/cyberfriends Emails: spfriends@zdial.com ivanae@freepcmail.com genweb@netzero.net

valarie, Thanks for emailing me..Yes the surname SPOHN is very difficult. I was trying to put a relation to my 4th ggrandmother Margareth Spohn and a Jeremiah Spohn who my 3rd ggrandfather was living with in 1860. However, I have not come up with anything yet. Yet alone, I can't figure out what happened to my 4th ggrandparents. I have been collecting tons of data online, and adding it to my family tree maker program. They may be unrelated, but one never knows when that unrelated person winds up being related right? I am totally stumped. My family and other researchers online have told me that my 3rd ggrandfather was Native American. I haven't been able to find any article that they claim is in the news papers to prove that fact. When I trace his surname which is Firing, Firing comes from Norway and Spohn is German. I'm trying to figure out how could he have been native american. I have tons of information on him now, but none of it is making any sense to me. I guess if he is listed white, he is white. KNow what i mean :)..Anyway keep me posted on how things are going on your spohn line, and if i find anything I'll let you know. Ivana ----- Original Message ----- From: <kitsacat@webtv.net> To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 5:13 AM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] SPOHN SURNAME > hello Ivana: > i saw your post re: spohn. my paternal gmother, Edna Moyer Landis,, > had a younger sister, Irene Moyer. > Irene married Walter SPOHN. Aunt Irene is still alive; walter is decsd. > the SPOHNS, irene and walter, had at least two sons: Carl and Richard > Spohn. > SPOHN is an unusual name; Irene was born and lives in berks and > montgomery counties, or that vicinty, in PA. she and walter lived > outisde of boyertown, pa. Carl and Richard (i might be wrong on > richard's name) but Carl and all that family live in or about boyertown. > dont know if this helps. > > i live in phoenix, az, currently. but i was born in pottstown and grew > up in gilbertsville. went to boyertown HS. my parents, harold and > stella landis, jr., live in gilbertsville. my only brother, tom landis, > lives in boyertown. > > i'll be visiting them over thanksgiving and doing more genealogy work. > a good way to put meaning in the words "thanks-giving". > > where do you live? let me know re: spohn. > > regards, > > valerie landis. > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > List owner ndwilson@swbell.net > > ============================== > FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! > Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

hello Ivana: i saw your post re: spohn. my paternal gmother, Edna Moyer Landis,, had a younger sister, Irene Moyer. Irene married Walter SPOHN. Aunt Irene is still alive; walter is decsd. the SPOHNS, irene and walter, had at least two sons: Carl and Richard Spohn. SPOHN is an unusual name; Irene was born and lives in berks and montgomery counties, or that vicinty, in PA. she and walter lived outisde of boyertown, pa. Carl and Richard (i might be wrong on richard's name) but Carl and all that family live in or about boyertown. dont know if this helps. i live in phoenix, az, currently. but i was born in pottstown and grew up in gilbertsville. went to boyertown HS. my parents, harold and stella landis, jr., live in gilbertsville. my only brother, tom landis, lives in boyertown. i'll be visiting them over thanksgiving and doing more genealogy work. a good way to put meaning in the words "thanks-giving". where do you live? let me know re: spohn. regards, valerie landis.

Tracy, I have a Frederick NUSS b: abt 1790 who married Sarah SCHLATTER in 1818 Montgomery Co., PA. Sarah is ENGARD connected. Let me know if this is of interest to you. Gerre Engard Byrd

I was wondering if anyone had a Mary b. abt. 1863 who married a ? Simons and lived in Norristown PA in 1915? Any information would be appreciated. Ivana *************************************************************** MAKE MONEY ONLINE NOW JUST BY SURFING THE WEB! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BNU976 GenWeb Search Engine - Where are your roots? http://genweb.virtualave.net Cyber Friends - Over 66 Chats, 25 Message Boards! The only way to make friends online! http://www.singleparentfriends.com or http://join.at/cyberfriends Emails: spfriends@zdial.com ivanae@freepcmail.com genweb@netzero.net

Does anyone recognize this JOHN TRIBBLE? If so, please contact me. 1840 - Federal Census - Pa, Germantown, p. 241 TRIBBLE/KRIBBLE, John 2 m 20-30 b: 1810-1820 1 m 50-60 b: 1780-1790 John 1 f 10-15 b: 1825-1830 2 f 15-20 b: 1820-1825 1 f 50-60 b: 1780-1790 Living next door to Peter Rittenhouse and on the next page from William Fratt. Gerre Engard Byrd

Looking for parents of Sarah Minerva Miller b. in 1849. Need all the help I can get. Thank you. Mary in CA