I just found this list and am submitting a request -- hoping to find the needle in the haystack. >From her gravestone, my ancestor Mrs. Margaret G. Montieth was born in Chestnut Hill, PA on Feb. 15, 1808 (and died in Indianapolis, IN on Sept. 9, 1875). I believe Chestnut Hill is in Whitemarsh Twp. Circa 1828 she married David Montieth who immigrated from Tyrone Co., (Northern) Ireland. They lived in Whitemarsh Twp and in Philadelphia until about 1845 when they moved to Eastern Indiana. I have only two clues as to her maiden name, neither are very reliable: either McGonegal or Managail. Can anyone offer advice? Thank you, Carol Montieth Watts Los Altos, CA carolwatts@attglobal.net

In a message dated 11/21/1999 7:56:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, Gnwilson@aol.com writes: << To Judy Ardine, you have some of the names I am researching....Ashmead, Hanby, Grubb. Want to compare notes? >> I'm interested in ASHMEAD. Looking for parents of Louisa Ashmead Kartsher b: abt 1853, m: Wm. Engard; resided Phila. I suspect she was an ASHMEAD and m: #1 ? Kartscher. Have and Aaron/Oren GRUBB who m: 1826 in Washington Co., OH to Hester GATES. Hester was daughter of Abel GATES, b: NJ and Anna Nancy CALLAHAN b: DE. Gerre Engard Byrd

Mike, I have no Elizabeth (nor Liza/Eliza) Miller in my database. The Miller line is very small in my records. Sure would like to enlarge it though. Good luck. Maybe Donna will come forward. Gerre Engard Byrd

Donna/GgenGard, I have an Elizabeth MILLER in my family who married Heinrich Jacob KNERR about 1759. Do either of you have these names in your family trees somewhere? Mike Ciotti

In a message dated 11/21/1999 11:15:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, dmhull@frazmtn.com writes: << I'm researching for Jacob Miller who was b. Germany 1702, came to US with parents c1715. His future wife, Margaret Miller (not related) & her parents were on the same boat. >> Just wondering if you have these in your database, Donna? Descendants of James Henderson MILLER 1 James Henderson MILLER b: November 22, 1822 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA d: November 21, 1905 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA ... +Rebecca C. ENGARD b: March 08, 1822 in Upper Dublin, Montgomery Co., PA m: February 28, 1850 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA d: January 21, 1900 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA ..... 2 Alvirda Dubarry MILLER b: January 18, 1851 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA d: May 08, 1876 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA .......... +Charles H. SHOESTER b: in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA m: May 1874 ............. 3 Clinton SHOESTER b: January 26, 1876 ..... 2 James Engard MILLER b: May 04, 1853 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA d: March 11, 1882 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA .......... +Clara D. CAMPBELL b: in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA m: November 29, 1881

I'm researching for Jacob Miller who was b. Germany 1702, came to US with parents c1715. His future wife, Margaret Miller (not related) & her parents were on the same boat. The settled at Falkner's Swamp, then in Philadelphia Co., PA, now in Montgomery Co. Their children who I have found are: Jacob Miller, b. c1726, m. Elizabeth Fudge in Augusta, dtr/o John Peter Fuchs/Fudge/Votch & other spellings. John Miller, b. c1728, m. Barbara Mauzy in Augusta Christian Henry Barbara m. Jacob Mann in Augusta Co. 1750's Catherine, m. George Conrad in Augusta 1750's It is not known if Jacob & Margaret moved to VA or if they stayed & died in your area. The children I have listed moved c1745 to Augusta Co., VA. About 1775 all but Christian & Henry moved S. to Greenbrier Co., VA. Christian & Henry may have been killed in the French & Indian wars. I recently published a book on this family, but I still have unanswered questions. I answer one & find two more :-) Donna

THANK YOU!!!!! Barbara > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] List of All Lists > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 16:07:16 -0600 > From: Brad Ziegler <zinc@mail.usmo.com> > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > >I also missed the URL list. Please, can someone forward it. Thanx, > >Donna > > LIST OF ALL LISTS, Internet search locations > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ROOTSWEB SEARCH ENGINE - ANY SURNAME OR LISTING > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > http://lists.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/findlist.pl > Trying to find a Rootsweb surname list? Don't know which of 8,000 possible > variant spellings it might be listed under? This tool finds sound-alike > matches for a given surname from among RootsWeb's thousands of surname > lists. 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http://www.lds.org/Family_Hostory/How_Do_I_Begin.html (Mormon FHCs) > http://www.ngsgenealogy.org (National Genealogical Society) > http://www.nehgs.org/ (New England Historic Genealogical Society) > http://www.rand.org/personal/Genea/ (Rand genealogy club) > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/searches/ (Roots Web Searches) > http://www.bc1.com/users/sgl/html/usa.htm (searchable genealogy links) > http://genealogy.travellor.com/genealogy/ (Travellor southern families) > http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/research/dbd.html (UofK S sourcelist) > http://www.usgenweb.com/ (US Genealogy web) > http://www.usigs.org/index.htm (US Internet Genealogical Society) > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/genealog/genealog.vital-mo > (genealogical and historical societies of Missouri; to change states, > delete "MO" and substitute the postal abbreviation of the state of > your choice) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > CHURCH HISTORY: > http://www.ncccusa.org/ (National Council of Churches) > http://www.ats.edu/members/denom.htm (theological seminaries) > http://www.rrlc.org/guide/arc02.shtml (American Baptist) > http://www.cob-net.org/ (Church of the Brethren) > http://www.catholic.net/ (Roman Catholic Church) > http://www.cin.org/ (Catholic information network) > http://www.catholic.org/colweb/direct.html (Catholics web directory) > http://www.disciples.org/historc.htm (Disciples of Christ) > http://www.ecusa.anglican.org/ (Episcopal Church, USA) > http://www.elca.org/ (Evangelical Lutheran) > http://www.fum.org/ (Friends United/Quaker) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/index.htm (Quaker genealogy) > http://www.mercer.edu/mainlib/SpColl.html (Georgia Baptist) > http://www.depauw.edu/lib/services/Desc/dept.htm#archives (Indiana UMC) > http://www.lcms.org/ (Lutheran, Missouri Synod) > http://www.jewell.edu/academia/currylibrary/partee/partee.html (MO Baptist) > http://cmc2.cmc.edu/arc.html (Missouri United Methodist) > http://cc.owu.edu/~librweb/spuma.htm (Ohio United Methodist) > http://www.libertynet.org/~pacscl/phs/index.html (Presbyterian) > http://www.rca.org/ (Reformed Church in America) > http://carolus.furman.edu/library/welcome/specpage.htm (SC Baptist) > http://www.ucc.org/ (United Church of Christ) > http://www.gcah.org/center.htm (United Methodist archives) > http://www.gcah.org/Conference/umcdirectory.htm (UMC state archives) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ETHNIC RESEARCH: > http://www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/searchable.html (searchable Canada) > http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/emig/emigr.html (emigration from Germany) > http://genealogy.org/~palam/#iareg (Palatines to America) > http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~tbrass/AMST/Amst.html (Dutch in New > Amsterdam) > http://www.familyworkings.com/genealogy1.htm (German Genealogy) > http://www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch/index.html (Irelands national archives) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/index.html (Irish Genealogical Society) > http://gentreegenealogy.com (Irish Genealogy) > http://www.anywhere.co.uk/news.html (Scots birth, death, marriage indices) > http://www.scotclans.com/ (Scot Clans) > http://www.tartans.com/genalogy.htm (Scots genealogy) > http://www.origins.net/GRO/ (Scotland General Register Office) > http://www.house-of-tartan.scotland.net/story/story.htm (tartans & clans) > http://www.tartans.com/ (tartans) > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/ (UK genealogy) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > ARCHIVES FOR MILITARY HISTORY & WARS: > http://www.cfcsc.dnd.ca/links/milhist/ (Canada war timeline) > http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~hoemann/unit1.html (Civil War fighting > units) > http://homepages.dsu.edu/jankej/civilwar/civilwar.htm (CW Dakota State) > http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/ (Civil War, U of KY) > http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/civlink.htm (Civil War, LSU) > http://www.usgenweb.com/military/index.htm (military history for genealogy) > http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/ (Military History Institute) > http://www.cfcsc.dnd.ca/links/millib/index.html (military libraries) > http://www.toast.net/~beau/gs1812.htm (Society of the War of 1812) > > SOURCES FOR BOOKS: > http://www.clark.net/pub/rmharris/netdlrs.html (antiquarian books) > http://www.appletons.com/homepage.html (Appleton's) > http://www.glbco.com/ (Blair's) > http://www.esva.net/ghotes/biblio/bkdealer.htm#dealer (dealers and > publishers) > http://www.hearthstonebooks.com/ (Hearthstone) > http://www.higginsonbooks.com/genbooks.htm (Higginson genealogy) > http://www.hopefarm.com/genealog.htm (Hope Farm, NY books) > http://www.midcoast.com/~picton/ (Picton Press) > http://server.mediasoft.net/Scott/C/ (Willow Bend) > http://www.yogs.com/ (Ye Olde Gen Shop, Indianapolis) > > LOOKUP SERVICES: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~bwo/#States (books we own) > http://www.mindspring.com/~wcrews/BooksPlus.html (mostly southern Books) > http://www.longstreet.net/census.html (census lookups) > http://www.cswnet.com/~mgoad/dar.html (DAR patriot index) > http://www.concentric.net/~Mikerice/hl/usa/index.shtml (genealogy helplist) > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2154/springin.htm (surname springboard) > > GENEALOGY MAILING LISTS - "HOW TO GUIDES": > http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html > http://members.aol.com/gresinet/gen_mail.html > http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > http://php.indiana.edu/~stephen/ownlists.htm > http://www.eskimo.com/~chance/lists.html > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > STATE & REGIONAL GENEALOGY SOCIETIES: > http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/mhgs/index.html > (midwest gen society) > http://www.asc.edu/archives/genealog.html (Alabama genealogy) > http://wwwcogensoc.org/cgs/cgs-home.htm (Colorado gen society) > http://www.cslnet.ctstateu.edu/ (Connecticut library) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/ (Florida gen society) > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9829/Ga.html (Georgia helplist) > http://www.sos.state.il.us/ (Illinois Secretary of State) > http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/ (Indiana library) > http://www.uiowa.edu/~shsi/index.htm (Iowa historical society) > http://home.att.net/~ladylake10/ipl/ipl_main.htm (Iowa pioneers) > http://www.kumc.edu/kansas/KSL/Ref/ksl_ref.html (Kansas library) > http://www.kdla.state.ky.us/kdlaindx/kdlaindx.htm (Kentucky library > and archives) > http://mlin.lib.ma.us/ (Massachusetts Library and Information Network) > http://www.mnhs.org/ (Minnesota historical society) > http://mosl.sos.state.mo (Missouri archives) > http://www.system.missouri.edu/shs/ (Missouri historical society) > http://www.nehgs.org/ (New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston) > http://www.state.nj.us/statelibrary/libgene.htm (New Jersey library) > http://www.sara.nysed.gov/ (New York archives) > http://unix2.nysed.gov/ (New York library) > http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/consumer/vr.htm (New York vital > records) > http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/ (North Carolina archives) > http://statelibrary.dcr.state.nc.us/NCSLHOMEHTM#information (NC > library) > http://www.ohiohistory.org/ (Ohio historical society) > http://www.ok-history.mus.ok.us/ (Oklahoma museum of history) > http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ (Oregon archives) > http://www.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Historical_Museum/DAM/overview.htm > (Pennsylvania archives) > http://www.cas.psu.edu/docs/pde/LIDSTATE.HTML (Penn. commonwealth > library) > http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/respol.htm (South Carolina archives) > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/escn_database_reports/ > (old SC papers) > http://www.historic.com/schs/ (South Carolina historical society) > http://www.sc.edu/library/socar/mnscrpts/index.html (USC's South > Carolina library) > http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/tslahome.htm (Tennessee library & > archives) > http://www.vsla.edu/index.html (Virginia Library) > http://www.westvirginia.org/ (West Virginia online) > http://www.wisc.edu/shs-archives/ (Wisconsin historical society) > http://www.dpi.state.wi.us/www/wis_lib.html (online Wisconsin libraries) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > SURNAMES: > http://www.one-name.org/top.htm (Guild of One Name Studies) > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html (surname helper) > http://www.eskimo.com/~chance/lists.html (surname mailing lists) > http://www.gendex.com:8080/display?page=surnames& (surname search > engine) > http://surnameweb.org/registry/ (surname web's registry) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > SEARCH FOR LAND TITLES AND LAND PATENTS: > http://www.avana.net/~lhaasdav/Patentlocations.html (all states) > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ (BLM eastern states land records) > http://www.innernet.net/hively/newpage29.htm (PA lands, with links) > http://image.vtls.com/collections/LO.html (Virginia land office records) > > NEWSPAPERS: > http://www.dds.nl/~kidon/medie-link/uspapers.shtml (Kidon US Dailies) > (But if it doesn't work, note that the next two say Media-link and try > that) > http://www.dds.nl/~media-link/usweek.shtml (Kidon US Weeklies) > http://www.dds.nl/~kidon/media-link/capapers.shtml (Kidon Canada) > http://caroline.eastlib.ufl.edu/flnews/projects.html (state newspaper > projects) > http://www.lib.virginia.edu/cataloging/vnp/contacts.html (state projects > list) > http://www.naa.org/hotlinks/index.asp (state associations, dailies by > state) > > CEMETERY RECORDS: > http://users.deltanet.com/~steven/cemetery.html (cemetery listings) > http://www.funeral.com/cemeterystates/ (cemetery listings) > http://www.funeralnet.com/cgi-local/notfound.pl?/ (funeral home listings) > http://www.dreamscape.com/goldlinks/cemetery.htm > http://www.Islandnet.com/ocfa/ (Ontario cemetery listings) > http://we.got.net/docent/cem/uscem.htm (US cemeteries) > http://www.inwd.com/death/usa.htm (US cemeteries) > > OTHER RELATED GENEALOGY SITES: > http://www.firstct.com/fv/stone.html (breaking down the wall) > http://www.ala.org/alonline/ (American Library Association) > http://www.genealogy.org/~bcg/ (Board for Certification of Genealogists) > http://www.firstct.com/fv/oldhand.html (deciphering old handwriting) > http://www.nara.gov/regionals/stlouis.html (fed personnel records) > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3207/ (low Country Huguenots) > http://OfficialCitySites.com (index of local government sites) > http://www.umdl.umich.edu/moa/moa_search.html (UMich literature search) > http://www.vanished.com/pages/database.html (misc. online databases) > http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us (Mid-Continent Public Library) > http://www.libraryspot.com/librariesonline.htm (libraries everywhere) > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/8080/philly.html (Philadelphia) > http://www.usps.gov/ncsc/ (Zip Codes) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Blessings, > Brad Ziegler

Donna, If you get them, I would appreciate a copy, too, as I missed them also. Thanks Barbara PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > PAMONTGO-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 335 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [PAMONTGO-L] Re: PAMONTGO-D Digest [Donna Hull <dmhull@frazmtn.com>] > #2 [PAMONTGO-L] HOLTON family of Cons [Kathy Jost Shouse <hardy@hitter.ne] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from PAMONTGO-D, send a message to > > PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Re: PAMONTGO-D Digest V99 #334 > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 09:36:55 -0800 > From: Donna Hull <dmhull@frazmtn.com> > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > I also missed the URL list. Please, can someone forward it. Thanx, > Donna > > PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Subject: > > > > PAMONTGO-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 334 > > > > Today's Topics: > > #1 [PAMONTGO-L] LARZELERE [Vince Summers <vsummers@NRAO.EDU>] > > #2 Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGA [buckr@mindspring.com] > > #3 Re: [PAMONTGO-L] LIST OF ALL LISTS [MsMaryFS@aol.com] > > #4 Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGA [Ggengard@aol.com] > > #5 Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGA [buckr@mindspring.com] > > #6 [PAMONTGO-L] WARNER Genesee County [User683614@aol.com] > > > > Administrivia: > > To unsubscribe from PAMONTGO-D, send a message to > > > > PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > > > unsubscribe > > > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] LARZELERE > > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:10:12 -0500 (EST) > > From: Vince Summers <vsummers@NRAO.EDU> > > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Hello again, folks... > > > > I was given this tidbit: > > > > Mary Emma LARZELERE m. Oswald Jackson DeROUSSE 1894. > > > > I do not seek oodles of LARZELERE data, but I would > > like to find out more about this person, and perhaps > > siblings and parents. > > > > Does anyone have anything on this? > > > > I have heard that Montgomery and Bucks Counties and > > Burlington County NJ were the stomping grounds for > > this line... > > > > Thanks, > > Vince Summers > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN, KERACK > > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:30:26 -0500 > > From: buckr@mindspring.com > > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Gerre: There's the Frederick Bates you were looking for. Speculation: > > maybe he's the brother of George Casner Bates. He is not one of GCB's > > children. Ruth in GA > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Ggengard@aol.com> > > To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:50 PM > > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN, KERACK > > > > > Sure would like to confirm that George is an EGERT and not an ENGARD. > > > > > > > > > 1814 - Will for George EGERT, Book S, p. 265, #62 info from abstract p. > > 4378 > > > written 15 Mar 1814, proved 23 May 1814 > > > sons George & Philip > > > gson Philip owes Justus SEETZ > > > Sybilla Kerback d/o Polly Kerack > > > s-son Matthias Upman > > > ch of gson Philip > > > executors son George & Frederick Bates > > > > > > Gerre Engard Byrd > > > > > > > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > > > Support Rootsweb with a donation it will be used to keep > > > this Genealogy Resource online. > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] LIST OF ALL LISTS > > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:52:02 EST > > From: MsMaryFS@aol.com > > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Hello, > > I missed the URL list, would someone please e-mail it to me? > > Mary Frances <msmaryfs@aol.com> > > Thanx > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN, > > KERACK > > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:10:17 EST > > From: Ggengard@aol.com > > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > In a message dated 11/19/1999 4:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > buckr@mindspring.com writes: > > > > << There's the Frederick Bates you were looking for. Speculation: > > maybe he's the brother of George Casner Bates. He is not one of GCB's > > children. Ruth in GA >> > > > > You may be right, Ruth. Did I tell you I have CASNER'S in my line - > > connected to HANWAYS/HANAWAYS who are more directly connected to my ENGARDS? > > > > Gerre > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN,KERACK > > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:38:26 -0500 > > From: buckr@mindspring.com > > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > No, you didn't mention Casner that I recall. But what do you know? I'm > > having trouble taking my proper steps backward. Bartine Bates needs a death > > certificate into my hands. The philly archives keep telling me I'm in the > > wrong year. At $36.00 a pop. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Ggengard@aol.com> > > To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 4:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, > > UPMAN,KERACK > > > > > In a message dated 11/19/1999 4:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > > buckr@mindspring.com writes: > > > > > > << There's the Frederick Bates you were looking for. Speculation: > > > maybe he's the brother of George Casner Bates. He is not one of GCB's > > > children. Ruth in GA >> > > > > > > You may be right, Ruth. Did I tell you I have CASNER'S in my line - > > > connected to HANWAYS/HANAWAYS who are more directly connected to my > > ENGARDS? > > > > > > Gerre > > > > > > > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode > > then e-mail PAMONTGO-L-request@rootsweb.com or > > PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Discover your ancestors and trace your family tree today at Ancestry.com. > > > You are invited to search our massive collection containing over 500 > > million > > > records, in over 1800 databases. Visit > > > http://ads04.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?16226.4 > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] WARNER Genesee County "Overseer of the Poor" WARNER (KMO) > > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:15:59 EST > > From: User683614@aol.com > > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Hello All, > > I am asking for any help anyone can give me regarding the dead-end I have > > hit regarding my WARNER roots in Genesee County, Michigan. The family I am > > seeking is that of WASHINGTON WARNER and his wife Mary (unknown maiden name). > > In the 1860 census, three of their children are shown: GEORGE (1847), LYDIA > > 1850) and EMORY BRADFORD WARNER ( my great-grandfather) (1852). All three > > were born in Flushing Township (Genesee County, MI). By 1880, Emory Warner > > has married CAROLINE PERKINS, whose family hailed from Jefferson County, New > > York and settled in Hemlock (Saginaw County), MI. > > Washington WARNER's occupation is listed as a shoemaker, a trade carried > > on by his sons. The 1860 census records also show that Washington and Mary > > were born in New York, but the 1880 census shows them being born in > > Pennsylvania. > > A book titled "The History of Genesee County" (MI) written around 1890, > > shows Washington Warner listed under "Overseers of the Poor 1848. There are > > Warner references in Eaton and Shiawassee Counties, MI. > > Family lore from my 95 year old cousin says The Warner family in > > Pennsylvania might have been from the Philadelphia or Pittsburgh areas, with > > a reference to "Pennsylvania Dutch," which surprised me because I have been > > told my Warner's emigrated from either England or Ireland. Yes, I'm confused > > too! > > Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. Any information will be > > 100% more than I have right now. Can I sound any more pitifully desperate? > > Sincerely, > > Kevin O'Brien > > Laguna Hills, California > > Researching: Dorchester > > Perkins > > Shannon > > Van Schaick > > Warner > > Ivall > > Lowe > > Gauley > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] HOLTON family of Conshohocken, PA > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 16:01:06 -0500 > From: Kathy Jost Shouse <hardy@hitter.net> > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > Looking for information on the HOLTON family that lived in Conshohocken > about 1932. The name Blanche was mentioned in an old address book believed > to be dated about then. Is there anyone who might have access to a city > directory that could look the surname HOLTON up for me in that time frame. > Any help would really be appreciated. > > Kathy Jost Shouse

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Looking for information on the HOLTON family that lived in Conshohocken about 1932. The name Blanche was mentioned in an old address book believed to be dated about then. Is there anyone who might have access to a city directory that could look the surname HOLTON up for me in that time frame. Any help would really be appreciated. Kathy Jost Shouse

I also missed the URL list. Please, can someone forward it. Thanx, Donna PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > PAMONTGO-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 334 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [PAMONTGO-L] LARZELERE [Vince Summers <vsummers@NRAO.EDU>] > #2 Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGA [buckr@mindspring.com] > #3 Re: [PAMONTGO-L] LIST OF ALL LISTS [MsMaryFS@aol.com] > #4 Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGA [Ggengard@aol.com] > #5 Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGA [buckr@mindspring.com] > #6 [PAMONTGO-L] WARNER Genesee County [User683614@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from PAMONTGO-D, send a message to > > PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] LARZELERE > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:10:12 -0500 (EST) > From: Vince Summers <vsummers@NRAO.EDU> > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello again, folks... > > I was given this tidbit: > > Mary Emma LARZELERE m. Oswald Jackson DeROUSSE 1894. > > I do not seek oodles of LARZELERE data, but I would > like to find out more about this person, and perhaps > siblings and parents. > > Does anyone have anything on this? > > I have heard that Montgomery and Bucks Counties and > Burlington County NJ were the stomping grounds for > this line... > > Thanks, > Vince Summers > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN, KERACK > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:30:26 -0500 > From: buckr@mindspring.com > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > Gerre: There's the Frederick Bates you were looking for. Speculation: > maybe he's the brother of George Casner Bates. He is not one of GCB's > children. Ruth in GA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Ggengard@aol.com> > To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:50 PM > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN, KERACK > > > Sure would like to confirm that George is an EGERT and not an ENGARD. > > > > > > 1814 - Will for George EGERT, Book S, p. 265, #62 info from abstract p. > 4378 > > written 15 Mar 1814, proved 23 May 1814 > > sons George & Philip > > gson Philip owes Justus SEETZ > > Sybilla Kerback d/o Polly Kerack > > s-son Matthias Upman > > ch of gson Philip > > executors son George & Frederick Bates > > > > Gerre Engard Byrd > > > > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > > Support Rootsweb with a donation it will be used to keep > > this Genealogy Resource online. > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] LIST OF ALL LISTS > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:52:02 EST > From: MsMaryFS@aol.com > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello, > I missed the URL list, would someone please e-mail it to me? > Mary Frances <msmaryfs@aol.com> > Thanx > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN, > KERACK > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:10:17 EST > From: Ggengard@aol.com > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > In a message dated 11/19/1999 4:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > buckr@mindspring.com writes: > > << There's the Frederick Bates you were looking for. Speculation: > maybe he's the brother of George Casner Bates. He is not one of GCB's > children. Ruth in GA >> > > You may be right, Ruth. Did I tell you I have CASNER'S in my line - > connected to HANWAYS/HANAWAYS who are more directly connected to my ENGARDS? > > Gerre > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN,KERACK > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:38:26 -0500 > From: buckr@mindspring.com > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > No, you didn't mention Casner that I recall. But what do you know? I'm > having trouble taking my proper steps backward. Bartine Bates needs a death > certificate into my hands. The philly archives keep telling me I'm in the > wrong year. At $36.00 a pop. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Ggengard@aol.com> > To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, > UPMAN,KERACK > > > In a message dated 11/19/1999 4:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > buckr@mindspring.com writes: > > > > << There's the Frederick Bates you were looking for. Speculation: > > maybe he's the brother of George Casner Bates. He is not one of GCB's > > children. Ruth in GA >> > > > > You may be right, Ruth. Did I tell you I have CASNER'S in my line - > > connected to HANWAYS/HANAWAYS who are more directly connected to my > ENGARDS? > > > > Gerre > > > > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode > then e-mail PAMONTGO-L-request@rootsweb.com or > PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message. > > > > ============================== > > Discover your ancestors and trace your family tree today at Ancestry.com. > > You are invited to search our massive collection containing over 500 > million > > records, in over 1800 databases. Visit > > http://ads04.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?16226.4 > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] WARNER Genesee County "Overseer of the Poor" WARNER (KMO) > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:15:59 EST > From: User683614@aol.com > To: PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello All, > I am asking for any help anyone can give me regarding the dead-end I have > hit regarding my WARNER roots in Genesee County, Michigan. The family I am > seeking is that of WASHINGTON WARNER and his wife Mary (unknown maiden name). > In the 1860 census, three of their children are shown: GEORGE (1847), LYDIA > 1850) and EMORY BRADFORD WARNER ( my great-grandfather) (1852). All three > were born in Flushing Township (Genesee County, MI). By 1880, Emory Warner > has married CAROLINE PERKINS, whose family hailed from Jefferson County, New > York and settled in Hemlock (Saginaw County), MI. > Washington WARNER's occupation is listed as a shoemaker, a trade carried > on by his sons. The 1860 census records also show that Washington and Mary > were born in New York, but the 1880 census shows them being born in > Pennsylvania. > A book titled "The History of Genesee County" (MI) written around 1890, > shows Washington Warner listed under "Overseers of the Poor 1848. There are > Warner references in Eaton and Shiawassee Counties, MI. > Family lore from my 95 year old cousin says The Warner family in > Pennsylvania might have been from the Philadelphia or Pittsburgh areas, with > a reference to "Pennsylvania Dutch," which surprised me because I have been > told my Warner's emigrated from either England or Ireland. Yes, I'm confused > too! > Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. Any information will be > 100% more than I have right now. Can I sound any more pitifully desperate? > Sincerely, > Kevin O'Brien > Laguna Hills, California > Researching: Dorchester > Perkins > Shannon > Van Schaick > Warner > Ivall > Lowe > Gauley

No, you didn't mention Casner that I recall. But what do you know? I'm having trouble taking my proper steps backward. Bartine Bates needs a death certificate into my hands. The philly archives keep telling me I'm in the wrong year. At $36.00 a pop. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ggengard@aol.com> To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN,KERACK > In a message dated 11/19/1999 4:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > buckr@mindspring.com writes: > > << There's the Frederick Bates you were looking for. Speculation: > maybe he's the brother of George Casner Bates. He is not one of GCB's > children. Ruth in GA >> > > You may be right, Ruth. Did I tell you I have CASNER'S in my line - > connected to HANWAYS/HANAWAYS who are more directly connected to my ENGARDS? > > Gerre > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail PAMONTGO-L-request@rootsweb.com or PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message. > > ============================== > Discover your ancestors and trace your family tree today at Ancestry.com. > You are invited to search our massive collection containing over 500 million > records, in over 1800 databases. Visit > http://ads04.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?16226.4 >

Gerre: There's the Frederick Bates you were looking for. Speculation: maybe he's the brother of George Casner Bates. He is not one of GCB's children. Ruth in GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ggengard@aol.com> To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:50 PM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] EGERT(ENGERT/ENGARD?) - SHEETZ, BATES, UPMAN, KERACK > Sure would like to confirm that George is an EGERT and not an ENGARD. > > > 1814 - Will for George EGERT, Book S, p. 265, #62 info from abstract p. 4378 > written 15 Mar 1814, proved 23 May 1814 > sons George & Philip > gson Philip owes Justus SEETZ > Sybilla Kerback d/o Polly Kerack > s-son Matthias Upman > ch of gson Philip > executors son George & Frederick Bates > > Gerre Engard Byrd > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Support Rootsweb with a donation it will be used to keep > this Genealogy Resource online. > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hello All, I am asking for any help anyone can give me regarding the dead-end I have hit regarding my WARNER roots in Genesee County, Michigan. The family I am seeking is that of WASHINGTON WARNER and his wife Mary (unknown maiden name). In the 1860 census, three of their children are shown: GEORGE (1847), LYDIA 1850) and EMORY BRADFORD WARNER ( my great-grandfather) (1852). All three were born in Flushing Township (Genesee County, MI). By 1880, Emory Warner has married CAROLINE PERKINS, whose family hailed from Jefferson County, New York and settled in Hemlock (Saginaw County), MI. Washington WARNER's occupation is listed as a shoemaker, a trade carried on by his sons. The 1860 census records also show that Washington and Mary were born in New York, but the 1880 census shows them being born in Pennsylvania. A book titled "The History of Genesee County" (MI) written around 1890, shows Washington Warner listed under "Overseers of the Poor 1848. There are Warner references in Eaton and Shiawassee Counties, MI. Family lore from my 95 year old cousin says The Warner family in Pennsylvania might have been from the Philadelphia or Pittsburgh areas, with a reference to "Pennsylvania Dutch," which surprised me because I have been told my Warner's emigrated from either England or Ireland. Yes, I'm confused too! Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. Any information will be 100% more than I have right now. Can I sound any more pitifully desperate? Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, California Researching: Dorchester Perkins Shannon Van Schaick Warner Ivall Lowe Gauley

Hello again, folks... I was given this tidbit: Mary Emma LARZELERE m. Oswald Jackson DeROUSSE 1894. I do not seek oodles of LARZELERE data, but I would like to find out more about this person, and perhaps siblings and parents. Does anyone have anything on this? I have heard that Montgomery and Bucks Counties and Burlington County NJ were the stomping grounds for this line... Thanks, Vince Summers

In a message dated 11/19/1999 4:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, buckr@mindspring.com writes: << There's the Frederick Bates you were looking for. Speculation: maybe he's the brother of George Casner Bates. He is not one of GCB's children. Ruth in GA >> You may be right, Ruth. Did I tell you I have CASNER'S in my line - connected to HANWAYS/HANAWAYS who are more directly connected to my ENGARDS? Gerre

Hello, I missed the URL list, would someone please e-mail it to me? Mary Frances <msmaryfs@aol.com> Thanx

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SCHRACK, Sallie b. 1880 Norristown PA DODDARD, Kate (Shrack) THOMAS, Anna (Shrack) SCHRACK, Daniel Looking for any information on the above siblings, children of (?--possibly Arthur) SCHRACK and Elizabeth SELL. Mary Jane Royle Boyd

Sure would like to confirm that George is an EGERT and not an ENGARD. 1814 - Will for George EGERT, Book S, p. 265, #62 info from abstract p. 4378 written 15 Mar 1814, proved 23 May 1814 sons George & Philip gson Philip owes Justus SEETZ Sybilla Kerback d/o Polly Kerack s-son Matthias Upman ch of gson Philip executors son George & Frederick Bates Gerre Engard Byrd