Hi, Folks: I am subscribed, though I expect just briefly, to ask about this particular Hartranft. Does anyone recognize this name and date? He is buried at North Mount Moriah Cemetery: John Hartranft died April 21, 1897 aged 79 years Thanks, Vince

Elise, does any of this look familiar? Descendants of William ENGARD 1 [1] William ENGARD b: February 08, 1809 d: Aft. 1884 ... +Eliza BOYD b: 1810 in PA m: August 22, 1833 in Germantown, Philadelphia, PA d: Aft. 1870 ..... 2 Theodore J. ENGARD b: December 25, 1833 in PA d: Abt. 1900 ..... 2 Mary Ann ENGARD b: May 07, 1836 in PA .......... +Charles WOOLMAN b: April 08, 1834 in PA m: 1858 in N Lib., Phila., PA ..... 2 Peter T. ENGARD b: November 14, 1838 d: Bet. 1899 - 1920 .......... +Eliza UNKNOWN b: Abt. 1848 d: Aft. 1920 ..... 2 Eliza ENGARD b: February 16, 1841 ..... 2 Henrietta ENGARD b: July 06, 1850 *2nd Wife of [1] William ENGARD: ... +Louisa Ashmead KARTSHER b: Abt. 1853 in PA m: August 06, 1878 ..... 2 Louisa Ashmead ENGARD b: March 17, 1880 ..... 2 William ENGARD b: October 04, 1885 d: October 1972 in PA Charles is a son of Daniel, son of Joel, son of Samuel (supposedly). I've not "proved" the WOOLMAN line. Gerre Engard Byrd

The Pottstown Public Library has the Mercury in there posssion some are on Microfilm some are in the basement you have to make appt to read them not the microfilm though. They charge 25.00 if they look up the paper. ellie

Try Jonathon Sheppard Books, Box 2020, ESP Station, Albany, NY 12220. They have a lot of good old maps for reasonable prices. I'm using their eastern half of PA map currently and although it's dated 1885-1887 it shows all of the old 18th century places I need. Janet On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:30:14 -0800 Donna Hull <dmhull@frazmtn.com> writes: >I anyone living in the area. I have trouble finding old maps of the >Falkner's Swamp & surrounding area. Any suggestions. >Donna ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Augustus Lutheran has records from th 1730's, and I've found a few earlier than that. It's not too far from Faulkner Swamp, you might want to look.

Willard-- Thanx for the info. I will give that a try. Donna P.S. My uncle's name was Willard.

The following burial records can be found on LDS film 0021950, Item No. 2: Antes Bertolet's Boyer Chestnut Hill Bapt Delp's Evansburg Mennonite Falkner Swamp Reformed Furman Gotwals Hall Harley's Herstein Meeting House Hobb Hollowbush Jacobs Jarrettown Methodist Kemper-Markley Leydich Lower Providence Meth. Montgomery Baptist Montgomeryville Baptist New Hanover Lutheran Norriton Dunkard Pawling Price St. Johns P.E. Norristn.St. Peters Luth No.Wales Sussman Schelkop Sherburne Up'r Bur. Ground Gmnt Upper Dublin Luth (Old puffs) Wentz Williams School Zeiber-Schwenck Zumbro Boehm's Blue Bell Providence Friends Mtg. Green Tree Brethran Falkner Swamp, Epitaphs Dan

Hi, The next time I'm there, I'll try to look up what you need. What do you need? Please be as specific as possible. They have the census for Montgomery & Chester Cos. and the Pottstown Ledger (i think 1859 to ??). I'll offer to do small lookups, ok. Email me at MAC3387@aol.com. Regards! Mark MAC3387@aol.com

Pottstown Historical Society 86 N. Hanover Street Pottstown, Pa. 19464 (610) 327-1343 Hope you have better luck then I did. Never received an answer, I phoned and left messages and wrote letters. All my ancestors were from Montgomery & Chester Co. I hear tell that the society is all but none existant and has no set hours to do research. I myself, would like to have been able to research the news papers, as my grandfather I'm sure, would have been a regular in the police blotter for stealing cars in Pottstown in the early 1900's. I ahve made a copy of your info. and if I should get to Pottstown in the next few weeks I'll see if I run across LANDIS. Terry Searching for direct line McCurdy. Surnames of females that married McCurdy men, Talbot or Kelly, Myers (pa), Summons (pa), Keyser, Habecker (pa), Hollinger (pa), Lewis (pa), Fox (pa), Henry, Jackson, Seidel, Aldom, Egan, Romig, Stetler, Shaw , Parker, Glinsky, Comfort (pa). Surnames of males who married McCurdy women, Reynolds (pa), Hoffecker (pa), Bitler (pa), Michener, Appert, Elliott, Albert. also searching for: ABORGAST(wv), ANDERSON (fl., wv), BITLER (pa), BERTOLDI (nj), CAPPER, CHANNELL (wv), CHAPMAN (wv), COGAR (wv), COLLINS, CONRAD (wv, fl, ca, DAHLSTROM, DODRILL (wv), ELLIOTT (pa), FOX (pa), GERHART (pa), GLINSKI (pa), GREGORY (wv), GROFF, HOVIS (mo), HUFF, HYER, HORCHLER (md), HOLSINGER, HINZMAN (wv), HERRLINGER (pa, ny), HINES, HICKS, HATHAWAY, HASSON (nj), HAMRICK (wv), HOFFECKER (pa), HENRY (pa), HABECKER (pa), HOLLINGER (pa), JACKSON (pa), JAMISON (wv,), KELLY (pa), KNIGHTSEY (wash.d.c.), KEYSER (pa), LYNCH, LOUGH, LONG, LEES (ma), LANTZ (wv), LEWIS (pa), MICHENER (pa), MACE (pa, wv, Ind.), MAUGER, MCATEE (wv), MCCURDY (pa), MILLER, MORRISON, MOYER (pa), MICK (wv), MCNUTT, MCCARTNEY, MUSGRAVE (wv), MUNYON (nj, pa), MYERS (pa), NOTTINGHAM, OGDEN (wv), PFADENHAUER, PEARMAN, REIDEL, REYNOLDS (pa), ROYER, ROMIG (pa, fla,), RICE (ca), REITNAUER (pa), RUSSEL, SHAW (va wv), SNODGRASS, SHOBE, SMYTH (ca), SMITH, SANFORD, SANDS, SEIDEL (pa), SUMMONS (pa), STETLER (pa), SWANSON, STETSON, TALBOT, THOMPSON, TRAXLER, VANCE, VANDEVENDER, WARE (wash.d.c., va, wv) WILLIAMS (wv).

Anne, If you find the information on the Falkner's Swamp Ref. Church on LDS film, would you let the list know. I would very much like to find the birth and baptism record of my great-grandfather Charles Fenstermacher. His parents? I think, are buried in the cemetery there, and a Rev. Daniel Wiser officiated at the baptism. Thank you, Patricia Palmer in Portland, Oregon Pat_Palmer@email.msn.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/p/a/l/Patricia-L-Palmer /

Listees: Is there anyone who goes to the HIstorical Society im Pottstown? I am in AL and a little far to go, but need someone to copy the newspaper clippings there for Daniel W LANDIS and his wife Clara SAVAGE LANDIS, his mother-in-law Charlotte K MOHR SAVAGE, and brother WIlliam H LANDIS. Daniel or D.W, is my gr grandfather. He died in 1886. Clara, my gr grandmother, died in 1900 and her mother Charlotte K SAVAGE died in 1902. I don't know what happened to William H LANDIS and would hope there might be something in the files there. Daniel had two brothers, Aaron and Allen, who both died in the Civil War. Allen's military file shows he was from Pottstown before he went into the 116 Regt. His father, Daniel LANDIS, lived in WarwIck Twp in Chester Co, at that time and took his body from Phila to Potttstown to be buried in 1864. Allen is buried in St Peter's Reformed (UCC) Church Cemetery in Knauertown. Daniel W owned a dry good store, LANDIS and SNELL, on the NW corner of Penn and HIgh Sts (1880's). There might be something about this business as well at the Hist Soc.. Whatever the costs, I will be happy to reimburse. Please contact me for my address if you are able to go there. audiana@webtv.net Thank you so much and have a wonderful Thanksgiving to you all. Diana

Donna: There is a Lutheran Church about 1000 yds from the Reformed Church. They are celebrating their 300th Anniv. this year. The may have some valuable records in their possession? The address is: New Hanover Lutheran Church Lutheran Road, Gilbertsville, Pa. 19525. Willard

Anne-- If you get the information on the church cemeteries, could you please forward it to me also? I read Falkner's Swamp Ref. Church on LDS film--all German inscriptions & mine were not there. They were German Ref. after getting to VA so I would think they would be there. Does anyone know what church people in that area might have gone to prior to 1740's when Falkner's Swamp Ref. Church started its records?? Donna

Jane Green: Sorry, nothing in the immediate area by the name of Heffelfinger. However, upon checking the phone book most of the Heffelfingers are from the central part of Montgomery County, Pa.- Norristown, Harleysville, or Lower Providence. Willard

Willard, do you know of any Heffelfingers from your area? Jane Green- green956@aol.com

Anyone know if there are online listings for those buried in: Falkner Swamp Ref. Cemetery New Goshenhoppen Cemetery Price Cemetery Franconia Mennonite Cemetery Bertolet's Graveyard?? I have ancesters buried in these cemeteries: Nice, Price, Hagey, Reed, Leidy, Maurer, Gearhart, Landis, Urffer... Thank you very much. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bicwil@aol.com> To: <PAMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] MILLER of Falkner's Swamp > Donna: > I live in the Gilbertsville, Pa. area and about 2 miles from the New > Hanover Lutheran Church and cemetery. Also about 2 1/2 miles from the > Falkner Reformed Church and Cemetery. If you have access to a Pa. map, you > will find Gilbertsville, Pa. which address covers New Hanover and Douglas > Townships. These were at one time known as the Falkner Swamp Area. If I can > be of further help, let me know. > Willard > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail PAMONTGO-L-request@rootsweb.com or PAMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message. > > ============================== > Discover your ancestors and trace your family tree today at Ancestry.com. > You are invited to search our massive collection containing over 500 million > records, in over 1800 databases. Visit > http://ads04.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?16226.4 > >

Hi Willard, I just happened to read your post that you were from Gilbertsville; one of my favorite places to go is the big "Gilbertsville Flea Market Sale". I am originally from Spinnerstown where my parents had the General Store. I have a lot of family still in the area and visit there from time to time - now I am in Upstate New York, Rochester area. I am researching Buzby, Benner, Feaster, etc. as well as my maiden name Simitz <A HREF="http://users.nni.com/bluejay/family.htm">Family Website</A> and need to come to Spruance and spend a lot of time there researching my Bucks, Montgomery, Lehigh County, Pa. names. Just wanted to say hello to someone in my hometown area. Thanks, Lea Simitz Buzby

Donna: I live in the Gilbertsville, Pa. area and about 2 miles from the New Hanover Lutheran Church and cemetery. Also about 2 1/2 miles from the Falkner Reformed Church and Cemetery. If you have access to a Pa. map, you will find Gilbertsville, Pa. which address covers New Hanover and Douglas Townships. These were at one time known as the Falkner Swamp Area. If I can be of further help, let me know. Willard

In a message dated 11/21/99 8:14:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, dmhull@frazmtn.com writes: << I'm researching for Jacob Miller who was b. Germany 1702, came to US with parents c1715. His future wife, Margaret Miller (not related) & her parents were on the same boat. The settled at Falkner's Swamp, then in Philadelphia Co., PA, now in Montgomery Co. Their children who I have found are: Jacob Miller, b. c1726, m. Elizabeth Fudge in Augusta, dtr/o John Peter Fuchs/Fudge/Votch & other spellings. John Miller, b. c1728, m. Barbara Mauzy in Augusta Christian Henry Barbara m. Jacob Mann in Augusta Co. 1750's Catherine, m. George Conrad in Augusta 1750's It is not known if Jacob & Margaret moved to VA or if they stayed & died in your area. The children I have listed moved c1745 to Augusta Co., VA. About 1775 all but Christian & Henry moved S. to Greenbrier Co., VA. Christian & Henry may have been killed in the French & Indian wars. I recently published a book on this family, but I still have unanswered questions. I answer one & find two more :-) Donna Hi Donna I also descend from Jacob Miller and Margaret Miller.Thru their son Jacob Miller married Elizabeth Fudge and Margaret Sullivan.I descend from Jacob and Elizabeth son George married Elizabeth Swope.Thru their daughter Sarah married Andrew Dunn thru their daughter Sarah Elizabeth Dunn married John Wesley Dunlavy.I would love to share info with you.I am interested inthe book you published.Let me know what your address is when you email me back.I will get my file ready to send. Thanks, Kris Seibert

Thanx for all of you who answered. No, I do not know of an Elizabeth Miller or her married surname. Sorry! Jacob & Margaret Miller Miller had the followng children--perhaps more, but these migrated to Augusta Co., VA c1745. Jacob b. 1726, settled in Monroe Co., VA John, settled in Monroe Co., VA George, moved to KY in 1780's Christian, possibly d. in Fr Ind War Henry, poss d. in Fr Ind War Barbara m. Jacob Mann Catherine m. George Conrad I anyone living in the area. I have trouble finding old maps of the Falkner's Swamp & surrounding area. Any suggestions. Donna