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    1. [PAMONTGO-L] Pottstown HIstorical Soc
    2. Diana Quinones
    3. Is there anyone on this list who goes to the Historical Society in Pottstown? I am looking for information on my LANDIS- SAVAGE family and would be willing to reimburse for copies and postage if there is any material there for: Clara SAVAGE LANDIS (wife of Daniel) Charlotte KERST MOHR SAVAGE(mothr of Clara) Daniel W LANDIS (Clara's husband) William H LANDIS (bro of Daniel) Nathanial SAVAGE(bro of George) George W SAVAGE (Charlotte's husband) Thank you for any help. I'm in ALA and not close enough to go there! Diana

    03/01/2000 03:02:56
    1. Re: [PAMONTGO-L] [PAMONTGO-D] Brick Wall Sites
    2. Please include me on the list of the Brink wall sites. Joan Frizzell frizzell@lasalle.edu

    02/29/2000 02:38:29
    1. Re: [PAMONTGO-L] [PAMONTGO-D] Brick Wall Sites
    2. Please include me in your offer for brick wall sites. Thanks

    02/29/2000 09:32:30
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] Re: Brick Wall Sites
    2. Pat
    3. Thanks Beck, You have one taker here! Appreciate it. Pat Snyder

    02/29/2000 03:47:03
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] Riders <1820
    2. Searching for anything that indicates a line of Riders containing a William, George and John that moved away by 1820. I have these 3 men as coming to Wythe County VA and settling sometime around 1820. They had children, listed below are some of the names and birth dates that I know. I do not know which children belong to who for certain but there is some evidence that suggests William is the father of most if not all of them. A William and Christina is mentioned in a land record, a William and Mary Houser or Hosser is mentioned in the marriage of one of these children below. There is a Mary Jane Rider b. 1789 buried in Wythe. A Barbara Rider b. 1780 or so is in a census with Elizabeth Rider and her husband Joseph Pulliam. Among the trades practiced by these men are shoemaking, tailoring, printing, cabinet making and one was a butcher. Any advice, suggestions on where to look is appreciated. Isaac Rider b. abt. 1804 Julia Ann abt. 1806 Henry abt. 1802 John abt. 1800-1804 Thanks, Lisa Rider Shindlebower

    02/29/2000 02:59:28
    1. Re: [PAMONTGO-L] [PAMONTGO-D] Brick Wall Sites
    2. Hi, I would be interested in receiving info on those sites. Thanks. Judy

    02/29/2000 02:42:43
    1. Re: [PAMONTGO-L] [PAMONTGO-D] Brick Wall Sites
    2. I would like a list of your brick wall sites. Thank You for your time & trouble. Brenda BSte902278@aol.com

    02/29/2000 01:42:11
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] [PAMONTGO-D] Brick Wall Sites
    2. Hello Diane and everyone . . . I would be quite happy to send my "collection" of sites to anyone who would like them. They are all in the form of URLs. In other words, all you have to do is click on any blue line for another site. Anyone interested, send me an email with BRICK WALL SITES in the subject line. Regards, Sun2Moon11@aol.com Beck I am intrigued with your comments above! Are you willing to suggest sites for the rest of us? We must all have brick walls. I've tried a lot of sites and wonder what I've missed. Diane in CO

    02/28/2000 09:26:46
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] 1830 Census information
    2. Donna Hull
    3. Here is the National Archives web page with all the information about the re= lease of the 1930 census. http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/1930cen.html -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm Ancestrally Challenged!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    02/28/2000 08:49:24
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] Re: Smithsonian and Standish
    2. Pat
    3. Hello again: There is a fascinating article in this month's Smithsonian Magazine by a descendant of Miles Standish and the colonies at Plymouth, "Merry Mount" and Boston harbor. Gives a delightful insight into Pilgrims that one does not always get. The web sit is www.smithsonianmag.si.edu The whole article isn't there but there are links (which I haven't yet followed to: Plymouth Plantation Last will of Miles Standish Alden Historical Site Fabulous magazine - gorgeous layout. Pat Snyder

    02/28/2000 07:51:26
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] DAVIS
    2. I've not moved Elizabeth DAVIS back yet. Gerre Engard Byrd Descendants of Elizabeth DAVIS 1 Elizabeth DAVIS d: 1792 ... +James ENGARD b: Bef. 1774 m: February 16, 1791 in , Philadelphia, PA d: June 03, 1791 ..... 2 Regina Elizabeth ENGARD b: February 13, 1792 d: September 08, 1870 .......... +Isaac LEWALLEN b: July 28, 1793 m: November 24, 1815 in Phila., Phila., PA d: September 15, 1837

    02/28/2000 11:28:19
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] Rider surname in Montgomery
    2. I have a whole clan of Riders that list PA as their origins who settled in Wythe sometime between 1810 and 1820. I am looking for birth records for these individuals, Isaac Rider abt. 1804, Julia abt. 1806 William abt. 1810 (to a father named William) John between 1800 and 1804 mother maybe Barbara Rider I have 4 rider men showing in census for Wythe in 1820--2 George Riders, William and John. George and John are in the 16-26 age bracket. William and the second George are older. Any help suggestions appreciated. I don't know what county to look in. Thanks, Lisa Rider Shindlebower

    02/28/2000 05:41:24
    1. Re: [PAMONTGO-L] [PAMONTGO-D] Dead Ends and Brick Walls
    2. In a message dated 2/28/00 1:37:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, SUN2MOON11@aol.com writes: > Marc, > Have you tried all of the GenForums for these surnames? > I would be happy to help you. I have scores of archived sites to help find > surnames. > There are also some relatively (sorry for the pun) new sites dedicated to > 'brick-wall' researching. > Too many sites to list here. Let me know. > Regards, Beck, I am intrigued with your comments above! Are you willing to suggest sites for the rest of us? We must all have brick walls. I've tried a lot of sites and wonder what I've missed. Diane in CO

    02/28/2000 05:01:00
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] [PAMONTGO-D] Dead Ends and Brick Walls
    2. Marc, Have you tried all of the GenForums for these surnames? I would be happy to help you. I have scores of archived sites to help find surnames. There are also some relatively (sorry for the pun) new sites dedicated to 'brick-wall' researching. Too many sites to list here. Let me know. Regards, Sun2Moon11@aol.com Beck > Message-ID: <20000225.160224.4326.0.fitpro2@juno.com> > Subject: my deadends > > Hi rooters-- > This is my updated list of my deadends > Is anyone else working on these families? > I'd love to share and find new information > Most of my families tended to travel or have changing boundaries: > Phila>Delaware/Mont/Chester>Berks>Schylkill > Phila>Lancaster>N'land>Union>Snyder > > Name, birthdate, spouse > - ----------------------------- ---------- ----------------- > William ANDERSON 1752, m Rebecca > Adam/William ARNOLD 1770, m ? > Martin BUCHER 1774, m ? > Eva Maria ?, c1755, m Peter Keifer > Anna Maria KENT 1834, George Livezly > Mary Magdelena ?, 1793, m George Gaugler > William KELLY 1799, m Elizabeth Shaffer > Matthew/John REA c1740 m ? > Priscilla TAYLOR c1764, m George Culin > > ANDERSON=ENDERSON > ARNOLD=ERNOLD, ARNOLT > BUCHER=BOUCHER, BOOKER > KELLY=KELLEY > REA=RHEA, RAY > > Marc

    02/27/2000 08:35:15
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] Port Kennedy
    2. Bill Chappell
    3. Hi everyone, I just found my ggrandfather living in Port Kennedy, Upper Merion, Twp in the 1850 census. Is there a directory or something that would tell me where he worked and/or if he owned property. Davis Horton age 30 clerk born PA, Caroline 26, Lewis 4, Anna 2 Thanks, Jeanne

    02/27/2000 01:24:11
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] Tomlinson-Comly
    2. Looking for info regarding marriage, parents, etc. for following from Pennsylvania: Dar records show marriage dated May 1, 1801 for: Joseph Tomlinson - b. Mar 23, 1772, d. Aug 6, 1858 Sarah McCreary - b. 1777 d. Dec 24, 1819 Tomlinson is sometimes also spelled Tumbleson. I believe this may be the Joseph Tumbleson in 1799 tax assessment of Huntington Twp. who later moved to Latimore Twp. (My reference is from History of Adams Co ,PA 1886). DAR records say Sarah was daughter of Amos McCreary and Hannah Whinery. Some McCreary researchers doubt this since she is not listed in Amos' will however, she is listed as a grandaughter in Hannah Whinnery's father, Robert's will in York Co. Whinery's were in York Co as was Amos McCreary. Amos is also listed in Mountpleasant Twp, Adams County in the 1800 assessment list made in 1799.(History of Adams Co, PA 1886) I have searched the book Menallen Minutes, Marriages & Miscellany and found many references to Elizabeth and Benjamin Tomlinson/Tumbleson who are probably Joseph's mother and brother. Joseph may not have been a Quaker. It has been suggested that perhaps Elizabeth Tomlinson was Elizabeth Comly from Montgomery County and that her husband Benjamin, Sr. was perhaps from the Byberry Tomlinson family. Joseph and Sarah moved to Bedford Co, PA circa 1810. Sarah is buried at Spring Meadow Friends Buial Grounds in Bedford County. Therefore I would think that she would either have been married as a Quaker or there should be records that she was disowned for having a civil ceremony and then taken back in at some point prior to her death - to be buried in this cemetery. Joseph is not buried with her but since she died young leaving him with two young sons and he outlived her by 39 years, he remarried at some point so could be buried with second wife. Any help or suggestions in finding Marriage records, parents, etc. is appreciated. Joyce

    02/27/2000 12:01:47
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] Re: reply to Lotta
    2. Unfortunately your server will not accept email from LaSalle. edu ________________________ To: "Charlotta Remington" <lotta@birch.net> cc: From: Joan Frizzell/Nursing/LaSalle Date: 02/26/2000 10:37:58 AM Subject: Re: Lost Joseph Good advice. Thanks so much. joan "Charlotta Remington" <lotta@birch.net> on 02/25/2000 02:17:35 PM To: <frizzell@lasalle.edu> cc: Subject: Lost Joseph Could it be that he is living with his maternal uncle? Have you checked for a Hipple death prior to 1870? Perhaps the natural parents were ill, so I would look for records there. The other possibility is that the parents were working elsewhere, or the kids were spending the summer with their Aunt and Uncle. The scenario could be endless. Good luck, Charlotta

    02/26/2000 08:41:50
    1. my deadends
    2. Hi rooters-- This is my updated list of my deadends Is anyone else working on these families? I'd love to share and find new information Most of my families tended to travel or have changing boundaries: Phila>Delaware/Mont/Chester>Berks>Schylkill Phila>Lancaster>N'land>Union>Snyder Name, birthdate, spouse - ----------------------------- ---------- ----------------- William ANDERSON 1752, m Rebecca Adam/William ARNOLD 1770, m ? Martin BUCHER 1774, m ? Eva Maria ?, c1755, m Peter Keifer Anna Maria KENT 1834, George Livezly Mary Magdelena ?, 1793, m George Gaugler William KELLY 1799, m Elizabeth Shaffer Matthew/John REA c1740 m ? Priscilla TAYLOR c1764, m George Culin ANDERSON=ENDERSON ARNOLD=ERNOLD, ARNOLT BUCHER=BOUCHER, BOOKER KELLY=KELLEY REA=RHEA, RAY Marc

    02/25/2000 09:02:18
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] questions
    2. Betty J. Burdan
    3. Joan, Boy, you have some digging to do. One thing to remember is with the introduction of mass produced bricks (Washington Twp., Berks County, near the Montgomery Co. boarder) Pennsylvania Dutch Country became the birthplace of the double home and the row home. According to what I've seen on census forms, a dwelling was considered an individual building and I've often seen double homes listed as the one dwelling, with two unrelated families living in it. Or.... the two families could be related and living in one single home. It's a tough call. Also on your marriage translation, it is possible that the typesetter made the error first and the transcriber simply repeated it. However it works two ways. The surname "Hittle" was also common in that area and he is just as likely to have made the mistake on the grooms surname. I'd file it and hope for confirmation either way. As far as I know there was only one Rev. Dechant. He was the Reverend Augustus L. Dechant, and Raymone E. Hollenbach published a transcript of his records. Maybe a little background on him would give you a clue. Hollenbach's intro to Dechants records notes the following: "Rev. Augustus Ludwig Dechant was born 1-26-1823 and died 3-25-1901. ....began to preach in 1852....his regular charge consisted of Keelor's, Old Goshenhoppen, Sumneytown and Pennsburg. During the first few years it appears that he kept only is private record....at that time it was often the custom of ministers to enter their records into pocket diaries, since many of the services were performed at the homes.....sometimes these records were copied into the church record books, but not always......the contents of all diaries, now known to exist, were entered into a record book of Old Goshenhoppen book.....Rev. Dechant retired...in 1890." The record then follows identifying places where services were performed as Allentown, Keelor's Church, Sumneytown, Huber's Church, Old Goshenhoppen, Norristown, Boyertown, and Pennsburg. I think you might want to check with the Schwenkfelder Library in Pennsburg, to see what else they might have on the Rev. Dechant. Regarding your Trumbauers, a friend passed on a photo copy of a section of the Swenksville Item, dated 9-16-1920, and next to the obit of interest to me is an article about Trumbauers that may give you a clue to where they all were scattered. "A HAPPY REUNION" On Sunday, Sept 12 [1920], at the foot of the Trumbauer Hill, Spring Mount, on the banks of the Perkiomen in the Unioneer Cottage, the various members of the Trumbauer family gathered to show their loyalty and expression of mutual interest. The blessing of long life was illustrated by the presence of four successive generations. The oldest member present was Mrs. Lydia Trumbauer and the youngest Geo. Trumbauer. Other members present were: Mr. and Mrs. Harry Trumbauer, Naomi Trumbauer, Mr. and Mrs. Earl Trumbauer, Wm. Henry Trumbauer, all of Shelly, PA; Mr. and Mrs. J. K. Trumbauer, Becca Moyer, Mr. and Mrs. Sames Smith, Edna May, Jonathan, Viola, Elsie Rosa, Harold, Leroy T., and Richard Smith, all of Srping Mount; Mr. and Mrs. Jacob Trumbauer, Harold Trumbauer, Rosa May Trumbauer, Mr. and Mrs. Georg. B. Levy, Miss Levy, all of Philadelphia; Mr. and Mrs. Howard Sterner, Marion Sterner, Donald Richards, Mrs. Susie Beeler, Mr. and Mrs. Frank Ahlum, Henry, Howard and John Ahlum, all of Richlandtown; Mr. and Mrs. Tom Schimnel, Mr. and Mrs. Wm. Harnick all of Coopersburg; Mr. and Mrs. Irwin Sleiffer; Katie Gieffert, all of Rieglesville; Mabel Stauffer, Shelly, Mr. Wismer, Pottstown. We trust that the existing ties may be strengthened and become more precious with the passing years, and that the Trumbauer family may increase in members and achievements. A royal feast of good things, both mentally and physically, was thoroughly enjoyed by all, and each one felt it was good, "Just to be there," and fully realized the spirit of the author when he said: FRIENDSHIP Ten letters spell the little word, And yet in all our gleamings No word we've ever seen or heard, Has half as many meanings. For friendship means to us the grip, Of hands in cordial greeting It means a perfect comradeship, Some hearts in concord heating It means those ties whose bonds extend; O'er long miles intervening; It means just friends, just good old friends, Who taught us friendship's meaning. The above article may also point you in the direction of the Schwenkfelder library which has all the back issues of the Schwenksville Item. Of course they also have the Scwhenkfelder Families volumes which follow the Schwenkfelder families and their descendents ( many no longer Schwenkfelders) up to 1915-1920. Happy Hunting Betty

    02/25/2000 08:10:33
    1. [PAMONTGO-L] 1860 Census Miller/ Koch
    2. All of these people are listed as living in the same residence. All are listed as being born in Pennsylvania |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |Miller, Absalom 26 |Carpenter | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |Miller, Catharine 24 | | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |Miller, Anna | | |1 | | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |Koch, Christien 43 |Washerwoman | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |Koch, Emma 22 |Milliner | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |Koch, Sarah 18 | | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |Koch, Christien 7 | | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| Any ideas as to what this means? Does any of this sound familiar? Thanks for your help Joan frizzell@lasalle.edu

    02/24/2000 07:40:33