Thank you so much for taking the time to search for my Nathaniel/Nathan Smith. This listing may be the closest I have come to documenting the existence of a Nathaniel/Nathan Smith in the correct location during the correct time period. 1) The Coates family which his wife Rachel is from resided in Upper Merion Twp., Montgomery Co. PA 2) His only known surviving child - Charles M. Smith was born in 1816 PA 3) His son Charles M. Smith is documented living in Ohio by 1837 working as a teacher. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can get any more documentation on the Nathan Smith listed in the history book? Nathan/Nathaniel Smith never appears on the Montgomery Co. PA census. If this is the correct Smith he also is likely "gone" by 1830 since his wife Rachel Smith appears as the head of the household in the 1830 Upper Merion Twp., Montgomery Co. PA census. I would be most grateful for any suggestions, Susan McIntyre [email protected] wrote: >In a message dated 6/27/03 5:46:02 PM, [email protected] writes: ><<am beginning to wonder if Nathaniel/Nathan Smith ever existed! >> >---------------------------- >Source Information: HISTORY OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA >EDITED BY THEODORE W. BEAN PHILADELPHIA: EVERTS & PECK. 1884 > >Nathan Smith, from the Gulf, in Upper Merion announces the opening of a >boarding-school "for young gentlemen and ladies," January 20, 1814, in which he >proposed to teach besides, the ordinary branches, book-keeping, elocution, >English grammar, composition, geography, mathematics, astronomy and the Latin and >Greek languages. Charge for tuition amid boarding per annum, one hundred and >sixty dollars; for day scholars per quarter, seven dollars; pupils limited to >fifty. What success attended this effort we are unable to state. >---------------------------- >Hope this helps. > > > >==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== >Composing your query (E-mail message) >KISS- Keep It Short & Simple > > > >

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - June 13, 1903 FINGER CRUSHED IN CORN PLANTER While meddling with a corn planter, last Friday, Flora, the 13-year-old daughter of Henry BUCHER, of Obelisk, had a finger crushed. Dr. WEIDA was called and found it necessary to amputate the crushed member. BULLET FIRED INTO MAIL BOX A bullet was fired through the free delivery mail box of John LEFEVRE of near Zieglerville. The culprit, if apprehended will be heavily fined and imprisoned for the offense. NEW SHED FOR HOTEL The Perkiomen Hotel, of Schwenksville, is to be supplied with a new shed by its owner Albert BROMER. The building is to be 40 by 60 feet, constructed of stone and frame and three stories high. The basement will give accommodations for 40 head of cattle, the second floor will stable 25 horses and the third floor is to be used for a storage place and probably a hall. ON TRIP TO DENVER Register of Wills GROFF, of Norristown, has gone to Denver to prove the will of Thomas FITZSIMMONS, of Pottstown. FORMER PENNSBURG MAN NOW HOLDS LUCRATIVE POSITION IN ALLENTOWN Our former genial townsman Robert L. SINGER (picture), is at present handling the extensive advertising department of W.R. Lawfer & Co's. department store, Allentown. Mr. SINGER was raised in Harrisburg, where he attended the public schools, later he entered one of the drug stores in his native city and after the usual preliminary training took a course in pharmacy. Dr. W.H. HUNSBERGER, proprietor of the Pennsburg Pharmacy, secured the services of Mr. SINGER and brought him to our borough. When Town and Country was launched four years ago Mr. SINGER became the partner of the present proprietor, but severed his connections with the paper one year ago on being offered his present desirable position. His work is pleasant and genial and gives him scope to exercise his ingenuity and his abilities acquired by extensive experience. A SLAUGHTER OF RATS J. Taylor ROTH, of Allentown, has broken all modern records for the slaughter of rats. His horse feed disappeared so rapidly and a lot of rats fattened so noticeably around his barn, that he resoled to drive them out if possible. He resorted to the novel method of throwing up an embankment around the stable and then secured a large hose and attached it to a fire plug and turned on a lusty stream of water. Before turning on the water he posted thirty-eight persons equipped with substantial clubs around the embankment. Soon the fattened rats began to feel the want of light and air, and simultaneous with their effort to escape the thirty-eight clubs began a vigorous whacking. After a three hour's battle there were 947 dead rats on the field of action; and it took three wheelbarrows, improvised as hearses, to remove them to their common grave. STRUCK BY LIGHTNING David ROTH, of near Geryville, was struck by lightning on Wednesday forenoon during the time of the heavy storm which passed over this section. The bolt struck the house and did but little damage to the building but stunned Mr. ROTH. Dr. WICKERT, of Milford Square, was summoned and rendered the required medical aid. The doctor says Mr. ROTH will be able to be out again in a few days. DOCTOR LOCATES AT SOUDERTON Dr. N.H. RAHN, of Perkiomenville, former resident physician of Charity Hospital, Norristown, moved to Souderton on Thursday where he will take up the practice of his profession. His office is located in the office of Esq. BORNEMAN. HORSES ATTACKED BY CEREBRO SPINAL MENENGITIS All of the horses owned by William FRETZ a farmer, of Unionville, are effected with the disease 7 in all, they are under the care of Dr. Allen Z. KEELOR, of Telford, several have been placed in slings. The malady is supposed to be due to impure water. FRIES IS NOT GUILTY There was an unusual but commendable ending to one of the suits at the Easton Criminal Court. In the case of Charles G. FRIES, of Pennsburg, who was accused of obtaining slate from the Pennsylvania Hard Vein Slate Company under false pretenses, one of the defendant's attorneys hinted that the prosecution against Mr. FRIES was instituted with the intention of troubling him. Attorney George W. GEISER, who is an officer of the slate company, and who was also one of the lawyers for the commonwealth in the case, emphatically denied this and stated that if the defendant would pay the amount of the sum in dispute, $100, and the costs of prosecution he would turn the check for the slate over to the Easton Hospital. Mr. FRIES' attorneys refused to allow him to pay the costs, and the case proceeded. Later Judge SCOTT directed the jury to return a verdict of not guilty and directed that the costs of prosecution, about $20, be paid by the county. Mr. FRIES then drew up a certified check for $100 and it will be given to the hospital. EAST GREENVILLE SCHOOL BOARD ORGANIZED The retiring board of the East Greenville School District brought its work for the year just past to a close on Wednesday and then adjourned sine die. The directors elected in February were present and presented their credentials after which an organization was effected by electing N.B. KEELY, Pres.; George CHRISTMAN, Sec., and A.L. LORENTZ, Treas. The school term was fixed at nine months, same as last year. The schools to open on the first Monday in September. Following are the salaries: Principal, $50; Grammar, $43; and the other three $35 each. A Mr. LANDIS, at present a member of the graduating class at the Kutztown Normal school, was elected principal. Mr. DOTTERER was elected to take charge of the Grammar grade and Miss Rosa KRULL, to teach one of the Primary schools. The Secondary school and one of the Primary schools are still vacant.

No ROBBINS or SPERRY and one for COX: Benjamin COX: 10/24/1824 edition of Norristown Herald and Weekly Advertiser: Pursuant to the Last Will and Testament of Henry WISMER, late of Lower Providence, deceased, will be sold one undivided half of a Grist and Saw-Mill and 26 acres of land in Upper Providence, bounded by lands of Benjamin COX and Samuel HORNING. Improvements are a comfortable stone dwelling place, with two rooms on a floor, a well with a pump near the door, a stone barn, nearly new, a large stone Mill-house with all the machinery necessary for carrying on an extensive business, in good repair. Also a sawmill in good repair. The mills are impelled by that never failing stream Perkiomen. Apply to Humphrey HAMER, residing thereon, or to Mary WISMER or John SHEARER. Diana in AL ----- Original Message ----- From: Wood, Kelley To: DIANA QUINONES Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] Norristown Newspaper notices 1822-1827 Diana, Would there be any Cox or Sperrys or Robbins of any sort I am looking particularily for Jonathan Robbins or William Sperry, but it may be helpful if there is anything on the surnames If you can't find anything, that's fine - can't find anything anywhere on them anyway, nor on the surnames (or I find way too much that isn't pertinent!!)

In a message dated 6/27/03 5:46:02 PM, [email protected] writes: <<am beginning to wonder if Nathaniel/Nathan Smith ever existed! >> ---------------------------- Source Information: HISTORY OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA EDITED BY THEODORE W. BEAN PHILADELPHIA: EVERTS & PECK. 1884 Nathan Smith, from the Gulf, in Upper Merion announces the opening of a boarding-school "for young gentlemen and ladies," January 20, 1814, in which he proposed to teach besides, the ordinary branches, book-keeping, elocution, English grammar, composition, geography, mathematics, astronomy and the Latin and Greek languages. Charge for tuition amid boarding per annum, one hundred and sixty dollars; for day scholars per quarter, seven dollars; pupils limited to fifty. What success attended this effort we are unable to state. ---------------------------- Hope this helps.

Thank you so very much for sharing the information found in your new book - you are a very generous person and the list is lucky to have you as a member. I truly appreciate the new data on the Coates family and am beginning to wonder if Nathaniel/Nathan Smith ever existed! Susan McIntyre DIANA QUINONES wrote: >No Nathaniel, Rachel or Charles M SMITH in these notices. > >James COATES, tailor, has recommenced business in Norriston. (March 27, 1822 >issue) > >James COATES, tailor, has removed his shop back of Abner STEPLETON's, next >door to the store at present occupied by John W. POWEL, and formerly by >Taylor and Co. (4/18/1827 issue) > >James COATES, Norristown offers six cents reward for his runaway indented >apprentice to the tailoring business, James KEELEY; had on a dark mixed >coatee, with steel buttons, black circassian pants, striped vest, black fur >hat, and boots. (8/22/1827 issue) > >Diana in AL > > > >

What a very generous offer you have made. Would you be kind enough to check the book for the following names - SMITH, Nathaniel or Nathan (no further info) or his wife - Rachel (1787 - 1853) or son - Charles M. (b. 1816) COATES/COATS/COTES - any mention could be used - I don't think there were more than a couple in the area during that period. Thank you for your kindness, Susan McIntyre DIANA QUINONES wrote: >Hello everyone: >I just received a new book - 'Advertisements and Notices of Interest from >the Norristown Newspapers 1822-1827'. If you have any ancestors who lived >in the area during these years, I will be happy to check this new resource >for any entries. >Please add 'Newspaper Notices' in the subject field of your email. I will >send you and the PAMONTGO maillist any 'found' reply, as you never know when >someone else might also have a common name! I will only reply to you >directly if there is nothing! And please try to give me complete full name, >not just a surname! And no more than 3 names on a request! >Thanks for your cooperation! > >Diana in AL >[email protected] > > >==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== >Make your subject lines meaningful. > > > >

Janet, 1820's is long after the Rev War! The only CARR is this: 12/5/1825 edition: Married 12/11/1824 at Doylestown, by Josiah Y Shaw, Esq., Joseph CARR to Mary Ann HIGGINS, both of Montgomery Co. In Montgomery Co Births, 1682-1800 by John T. Humphrey, p 233: Joseph KARR, son of Christoph and Johannah, born 7/10/1775, St Paul's Lutheran Church, Barren Hill, Whitemarsh. Could this be yours? Diana in AL ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [PAMONTGO-L] Norristown Newspaper notices 1822-1827 Diana, Could you check the name Carr in your notices? I have a Christopher Carr who lived in Norristown and was in the Revolutionary War. I can not find his parents but he was born in Montgomery County. Thank you, Janet

No Nathaniel, Rachel or Charles M SMITH in these notices. James COATES, tailor, has recommenced business in Norriston. (March 27, 1822 issue) James COATES, tailor, has removed his shop back of Abner STEPLETON's, next door to the store at present occupied by John W. POWEL, and formerly by Taylor and Co. (4/18/1827 issue) James COATES, Norristown offers six cents reward for his runaway indented apprentice to the tailoring business, James KEELEY; had on a dark mixed coatee, with steel buttons, black circassian pants, striped vest, black fur hat, and boots. (8/22/1827 issue) Diana in AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan McIntyre" <[email protected]> To: "DIANA QUINONES" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:14 PM Subject: Norristown Newspaper notices 1822-1827 > What a very generous offer you have made. Would you be kind enough to > check the book for the following names - > > SMITH, Nathaniel or Nathan (no further info) > or his wife - Rachel (1787 - 1853) > or son - Charles M. (b. 1816) > > COATES/COATS/COTES - any mention could be used - I don't think there > were more than a couple in the area during that period. > > Thank you for your kindness, > Susan McIntyre > > > > DIANA QUINONES wrote: > > >Hello everyone: > >I just received a new book - 'Advertisements and Notices of Interest from > >the Norristown Newspapers 1822-1827'. If you have any ancestors who > >lived > >in the area during these years, I will be happy to check this new > >resource > >for any entries. > >Please add 'Newspaper Notices' in the subject field of your email. I > >will > >send you and the PAMONTGO maillist any 'found' reply, as you never know > >when > >someone else might also have a common name! I will only reply to you > >directly if there is nothing! And please try to give me complete full > >name, > >not just a surname! And no more than 3 names on a request! > >Thanks for your cooperation! > > > >Diana in AL > >[email protected] > > > > > >==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > >Make your subject lines meaningful. > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello everyone: I just received a new book - 'Advertisements and Notices of Interest from the Norristown Newspapers 1822-1827'. If you have any ancestors who lived in the area during these years, I will be happy to check this new resource for any entries. Please add 'Newspaper Notices' in the subject field of your email. I will send you and the PAMONTGO maillist any 'found' reply, as you never know when someone else might also have a common name! I will only reply to you directly if there is nothing! And please try to give me complete full name, not just a surname! And no more than 3 names on a request! Thanks for your cooperation! Diana in AL [email protected]

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - June 13, 1903 THE DEATH LIST Mrs. Annie WILT, wife of William WILT, of Philadelphia, died on Thursday night, of last week, of consumption after being a sufferer for the past two years. She was however only bedfast for the past thirteen weeks. Mrs. WILT was the only daughter of Mrs. Thornton WOLFINGER, of Philadelphia, whose maiden name was SHEIP. Mrs. WILT was well known in this section having spent many summer months with her grandfather the late Levinus SHEIP of Pennsburg. She was about 36 years of age. Funeral services were held in Philadelphia, on Saturday evening by Rev. CONWELL, and further services were held on Sunday afternoon at the New Goshenhoppen church, near East Greenville, by the Rev. J.L. ROUSH. Mrs. Maria HERSH, wife of John HERSH, Sr., of East Greenville, died on Tuesday evening at 11.30 o'clock, after a lingering illness with pneumonia, heart disease and general debility. Her age was eighty-one years and fifteen days. She was bedfast for the past five weeks. Her husband and the following children survive: Drs. John G., and Daniel HERSH, of East Greenville, and Katie, wife of Dr. D.H. KELLER, of Bangor. Two children preceded her in death by many years. She was a daughter of the late John GERY, of Geryville, and the following brothers and sisters also survive: Mrs. James BOBB, of Philadelphia; Mrs. Daniel ROEDER, Miss Katie GERY and Benjamin GERY, of East Greenville. The funeral will be held on Saturday at the New Goshenhoppen Reformed church. Rev. C.M. DELONG (spelled deLong) will officiate. Interment on the church cemetery. Charles M. GROFF, who had been working for W.G. ZIEGLER and J.G. ZIEGLER, at Ironbridge, the last few years and whose home was in Perry county, died at the Pottstown Hospital on Saturday from thphoid fever. His age was 31 years, 5 months and 29 days. He was a model young man and loved by everyone who knew him. He is survived by a father and mother, Mr. and Mrs. Cornelius GROFF, two brothers and six sisters. He was buried on Wednesday at the Boyertown cemetery. Rev. J.E. FREEMAN officiated. John CARVER, of Perkiomenville, died, aged 68, a week ago on Thursday. He was afflicted with dropsy and finally suffered from a stroke of apoplexy. He was buried at St. Paul's Lutheran church on Thursday. He is survived by his wife and a son, Edwin, and a daughter, Susanna, all of Perkiomenville. ROASTED ON LIVE WIRES William NEWITT and two other painters, employes of the P. and R. railway, were sent to Meadowbrook station, on Tuesday, to paint the station roof. While engaged in the work, NEWITT's foot slipped and he rolled to the edge of the roof and fell on the electric wires strung at the eaves. His fellow workmen were startled by his screams and the station agent at once tried to have the currents cut off from Jenkintown, but failed to get any response. The Philadelphia Terminal was next tried and before the current could be cut off, the agent reported that NEWITT had died. NEWITT's body was sadly seared and burned and after his death no one dared to touch him until after the electric light currents had been turned off. The body of the unfortunate man was sent to his home in Philadelphia. ROYERSFORD BUSINESS MAN MISSING Adolph JACOBS, a well known young business man of Royersford, has been missing from his home since June 3. He was married only a few weeks ago and his young wife is prostrated with grief over his disappearance. Neither she nor his brother, William JACOBS, his partner in business can account for his absence. It is feared by his friends that he has met with foul play. LUTHERAN PASTOR WEDS Rev. J. KAUFFMAN, pastor of the Beavertown charge, Snyder county, and Miss Alice BROWN, were married at the parsonage of Rev. KISTLER, Amityville, on Thursday. Both Rev. and Mrs. KAUFFMAN were former residents of Pricetown. Miss BROWN has been teacher of one of the Primary Schools of East Greenville for the past three years. Immediately after the wedding the happy couple proceeded to their furnished home at Beavertown. WEDDED AT NORRISTOWN Miss Jane M. GERHART, of Pennsburg; and Max M. BRUNNER, of Rahn's Station, were wedded at Norristown, on Tuesday evening, at eight o'clock, at the home of the bride's brother, Monroe GERHART. A large number of invited guest were present. Rev. A. KRECKER, of Norristown, performed the ceremony. The groom is station agent at Rahns and the bride is a sister of our townspeople G.W. GERHART and Mrs. Hiram C. WICKERT. The couple will reside at Rahns. They expect to start housekeeping in a few weeks. MARRIED BY A JUSTICE John LOCHMAN, son of Mr. and Mrs. Conrad LOCHMAN, and Miss Mabel SASSAMAN, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J.H. SASSAMAN, both of Boyertown, were married Tuesday evening by Justice of Peace William H. FOX.

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - June 6, 1903 FROM OUR CORPS OF ABLE CORRESPONDENTS ZIEGLERVILLE M.I. SHANER will keep boarders this summer he will be able to accommodate 18 people at his home the "Adalia." Joseph REPPERT our green grocer is doing a good business. The O.K.F. under the leadership of Dr. F.N. GREENE Grand Marshall made a neat appearance in the Grand Army parade at Schwenksville, on Decoration Day. G.M. CARL, of Schwenksville, moved his family into his boarding house the "Perkiomen" and he is now ready to accommodate his guests for the coming season. The public sale of the personal property of the late Samuel LONGAKER, of Schwenksville, was largely attended. Charles BEAN and his father were guests at the Weldon House. Charles MARKLEY and family of Philadelphia, paid a visit to D.W. STETLER and family, of Delphi. John MILLER has another kiln of brick ready for shipment and started shipping today. MORWOOD Rein GODSHALL made a business trip to Philadelphia on Wednesday. Manoah LANDIS, of Ambler, spent Saturday and Sunday with his parents. Rev. and Mrs.Jacob KEHM, of Sellersville, were the Sunday guests of Mr. and Mrs. Henry GODSHALL. Harvey CLEMMER and wife were visiting friends in Norristown on Monday. The Franconia School Board held a meeting on Monday evening and organized for the ensuing year. The following were elected by acclamation: Pres., Hiram CLEMMER; Sec., Jacob M. LANDIS; Treas., Wm. M. SOUDER. They decided to open the schools on September 14, instead of September 21, as heretofore. Misses Addie ROTH and Lottie MULHAUSER, of Quakertown were visiting the family of Jonas LANDIS on Tuesday and Wednesday. Miss ROTH taught Shueck's school last year. Mrs. Sylvanus ZIEGLER was buried at the Franconia Mennonite meeting house on Thursday. HOPPENVILLE The party of Mr. PATTERSON was well attended. Mr. and Mrs. Wellington ZEIGLER, of Pennsburg, were the guests of Edwin KLINE on Sunday. A child was born to Mr. and Mrs. Harry DOCKERTY. Mrs. John FREED and family, and Mr. Howard FREED and family, were in Spring Mount to visit relatives on Sunday. Wm. LEISTER is giving his house a coat of paint and Victor COPE is doing the work. Mrs. John HOFFMAN, of East Greenville, has rented a part of Henry JOHANNAS' house. ESHBACH William SEASHOLTZ, of Boyertown, a member of the J.O.A.M. of Eshbach's, died after an illness of about a year. A pony belonging to William ESHBACH was chanced off at the "Continental" and was won by Amos DOTTERER, of Bechtelsville. Rev. H.W. WARMKESSEL and "Blind" Tilman FOGEL, a skilled musician, visited here on Saturday. Oliver HOFFMAN, a stone cutter erected two very fine headstones in Bechtelsville Cemetery, one for Alice, wife of Dr. R.Y. LECHNER and the other for Lizzie, wife of Prof. Frank H. STAUFFER. Mr. HOFFMAN has been very busy lately. ARGUS Pharon LEISTER raised a rye stalk on the farm of Henry GUSSMAN which measured 7 feet and 7 inches. Rev. BENNER was the guest of Frank LONG on Sunday. Mr. and Mrs. STAKE, of Philadelphia, moved last week on the farm formerly occupied by Emanuel BERND. Mr. and Mrs. REESE and son Robert, of Philadelphia, Katie WEIDENHEIMER, of Kutztown; Mr. and Mrs. F.W. GERHART, of Philadelphia, were the Sunday guests of Mr. and Mrs. B.E. CRESSMAN. Mr. and Mrs. S.W. KRATZ and family of Souderton, Charles HEIMBACH, of Milford Square, E.G. HEIMBACH, of Telford, and John BAKER, of Souderton, were the Sunday guests of Mr. and Mrs. T. GERHART. Mr. and Mrs. F. LONG and son Henry were visiting Mr. THOMAS at Centre Valley on Monday. Warren FRANK and family, of Quakertown, were spending a few days with Mr. and Mrs. Noah FRANK. HILLEGASS One of Charles SCHLICHER's cows was gored by another on Saturday while out in pasture and was severely injured. The horn penetrated the cow's forehead to the depth of about three inches. The injured cow reeled and fell and it was thought she would die suddenly. She was later able to be removed to the stable and it is expected that she will recover. Mr. and Mrs. Charles SCHLICHER, of the Queen of the Valley Farm, spent Saturday and Sunday with relatives and friends at Emaus, Allentown and Bethlehem. William H. SIEGFRIED, of Reading, on Wednesday moved into Dr. C.Q. HILLEGASS' property at the Perkiomen paper mill. He will have charge of the paper mill. Mrs. Mary SIEGFRIED and son Edwin of Monterey, spent several days this week with the family of Dr. C.Q. HILLEGASS. Mrs. Jonas HARING and daughter Maggie spent Thursday at Allentown. ZIONSVILLE J.J. GACKENBACH, supervisor, is repairing our roads. Squire L.S. ROEDER served as a juror at our courts at Allentown this week. Charles KLINE and his daughter Ellen are on the sick list. The gypsies who camped in Wm. SCHIFFERT's grove left on Monday morning for Coopersburg. Last Saturday, L.S. ROEDER and Benneville DELLICKER, of Old Zionsville, went to Philadelphia and brought the remains of Theobold GULLY, and buried him in the Swamp church cemetery. Mr. GULLY died in the Norristown State Asylum and from there he was shipped to Philadelphia. He was dead ten days before burial. Wm. SLONECKER raised a rye stalk 7 feet and 9 inches long. BECHTELSVILLE Mr. and Mrs. John G. ERB, accompanied by their son, Irwin and wife, of Phoenixville, spent a pleasant Sunday with the former's brother, Nathaniel ERB and family. Harrison SCHOENLY, Allen DEYSHER, Wm. HERTZOG and Mrs. Amos DEYSHER are having a cement pavement placed in front of their residences. Miss Olivia SMITH left for Glendale to spend several weeks with her uncle, Ephraim WOLFGANG. Malinda, wife of ex-County Commissioner Charles E. STANGIER, died at their home in Reading last Thursday. She leaves her husband and two children. Her maiden name was BECHTEL. They formerly resided at this place. GERYVILLE Morris BREY is spending several days in Philadelphia this week. Mr. and Mrs. Levi STROHM, Mr. and Mrs. Peter LOUX and Mrs. Joseph LOUX, of Dublin, were the Sunday guests of U.G. LOUX and family. U.G. LOUX is excavating the cellar for the addition to his store. Mrs. Raymond PEPPEL is on the sick list.

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - June 6, 1903 FROM OUR CORPS OF ABLE CORRESPONDENTS CRESSMAN H.D. HILDEBRAND moved his grocery store restaurant to the BRUNNER property last week. Mrs. REICHENBACH, of Pennsburg, spent several days in town among relatives last week. E.W. REITER and wife spent several days in Philadephia this week. Joseph ANDERS, Jr., received a very fine piano and pianola last week from N.K. HOOKER, of Quakertown. Mrs. John FISHER is on the sick list. Mrs. J.W. REITER spent last week with her daughter, Mrs. E.F. BENNER, at Salfordsville. Adam KINKLE and E.W. REITER and wife attended the funeral of Frank WIMMER at Richlandtown. Miss Maggie HARPEL, of Church Hill, is spending part of the week with Mr. and Mrs. Wm. KELLER. Miss Jennie V. REITER is spending the week at Salfordville with Dr. and Mrs. E.F. BENNER. Miss Clara NEIDIG is spending the week in Philadelphia. J.W. REITER was the Sunday guest of Dr. and Mrs. E.F. BENNER, at Salfordville. Mrs. Chas. BEALER and children, Eddie and Lizzie, spent several days with her mother, Mrs. Sophia WEIDNER. PERKIOMENVILLE Among those noticed in town over Sunday were Mr. and Mrs. Theo. JUNITY, Mr. and Mrs. Jacob ERB, Bridgeport; Messrs. Haggerty Bros. from Philadelphia; Miss Bertha KILER, of Pottstown; Mr. and Mrs. Edwin POLSTER, Green Lane; Miss Mary KILER, Pottstown; Miss Kate H. FAUST, Norristown; Mr. and Mrs. Isaac RAHN, Lower Providence. John L. KILER spent Monday with his mother at Pottstown. Henry FREY and family and F.E. GROFF and family spent Sunday with H.B. EBERLE at Grater's Ford. H.H. RAHN and family and Miss Amanda HENDRICKS spent Sunday with Elias N. FAUST, Green Lane. H.H. RAHN assisted J.U. HENDRICKS at the Perkiomen Hotel on Decoration Day at Schwenksville. The surprise party for Mary HENRY was well attended. About 100 were present. After spending the evening with different games, a table was prepared with fancy cakes, oranges, bananas, etc., of which all partook. Ed. Thomas, bought a pacing horse from J.H. FISHER. S.K. BUCHER, while serving green groceries, was thrown from the wagon, the wheels of which passed over his hand and bruised him considerably. The horse broke the shaft of the wagon and harness and ran home. STEINSBURG O.J. ENGELMAN and M.G. KEMMERER did business in Allentown last Monday. Mr. and Mrs. John KRAMMES were in Allentown a few days this week to help his brother moving. H.S. KRAMMES, of Allentown, moved with his family to Philadelphia last Wednesday. L.Y. MESCHTER and F.S. SHELLY, of East Greenville, stopped in our town last Saturday on their way home from Cooper's cattle sale, at Coopersburg. Daniel LANDIS quit cigar making at Milford Square last week. He is looking for a similar position. Andrew WEAVER and wife were in Philadelphia visiting friends and relatives over Sunday. Jennie and Annie MOYER, of Centre Valley, were here visiting last Monday. M.G. KEMMERER made a business trip to Philadelphia last Tuesday. H.S. BREY, wife and daughter were visiting at Schwenksville last Saturday and Sunday. The farm of Solomon MILL was sold last Monday to his son John, of Vera Cruz for $840 and he took possession at once. J.C. KRAMMES did business in Allentown last Tuesday. POWDER VALLEY Erwin NUSS and family, of Sigmund, visited Mrs. Geo. KEMMERER and Mrs. S. MILLER and family on Monday. Misses Irene SCHUBERT, Mary MILLER and Jennie MILLER were under the parental roof over Sunday. Geo. BARTHOLOMEW and family visited Elmer BAHL and family, of Emaus, on Sunday. FRUITVILLE Isaac STAHL and family and Miss Ida STAHL visited Levi WENTZ and family at Zion Hill on Monday. Miss Mary ADAM went to Manayunk on Tuesday and expects to stay a few weeks. Miss Mamie ADAM has hired herself to a family in Philadelphia and entered upon her duties on Monday. Mr. and Mrs. William LAUDENSLAGER and daughter of Palm and Mrs. Carolina TRAPP and Mrs. SCHALLER, of Philadelphia, were the guests of George STAHL and family on Monday. Wesley BUTTERWECK and family and Miss Kate BUTTERWECK, of Allentown, visited friends at this place on Sunday and Monday. Daniel CARVER and Edward SCHWOYER were in Philadelphia on Saturday. Miss Gertrude BUTTERWECK returned to her grandmother at Dale after spending a few weeks with her parents at this place. Miss Katie HOFFMAN, of Steinsburg, spent a week visiting friends at this place. Mr. and Mrs. Frank SEASHOLTZ and daughter Ella, of Sassamansville, were the guests of Mr. and Mrs. Frank ADAM on Sunday. Mr. and Mrs. Daniel SLONAKER, of Lansdale, visited Nathan ADAM and family on Saturday. Mr. and Mrs. Joseph SCHWOYER were visiting friends in Pottstown on Saturday and Sunday. Mr. and Mrs. Daniel HEYDT were in Manayunk over Sunday visiting the latter's parents, Mr. and Mrs. G.M. NICE. Mrs. HEYDT remained the whole week. Mr. and Mrs. Frank ADAM, Misses Flora and Ida STAHL, Katie and Emma BUTTERWECK and Sallie SCHULTZ enjoyed a fishing trip to Green Lane on Saturday. The following were the guests of Isaac STAHL and family on Sunday: Mr. and Mrs. Irwin SEASHOLTZ, Miss Cora PFLEIGER and Reuben KLINE, of Pennsburg, and Homer GRABER and Elsie McENTEE, of East Greenville.

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - June 6, 1903 FROM OUR CORPS OF ABLE CORRESPONDENTS RED HILL J.F. SEASHOLTZ's horse sale was well attended on Thursday. C.G. HEIST was in Philadelphia on Wednesday. Born to Mr. and Mrs. Calvin MILLER, a girl, on Friday. Howard WILTRANT sold his horse to Dr. J.Z. HILLEGASS. Wm. A. WELKER was in Macungie on Monday. John McDOWELL and J.B. DYSON are serving as jurors this week. Mr. GRESH, of Norristown, was in town on Tuesday. H.H. BOYER has a force of men at work digging the foundations for Dr. ROTH's house. Edwin REITER, our tinsmith, is over-rushed with work. Mr. and Mrs. Boyd McMYRTLE, of Philadelphia, visited the family of C.E. HILLEGASS, the former part of the week. DILLINGERSVILLE Mr. and Mrs. William HANGEN and Mr. and Mrs. William MILLER, of Reading, were the guests of Mr. and Mrs. Horace MILLER on Sunday. Mr. and Mrs. Wm. DIEHL, of Pennsburg, visited Daniel KLEINSMITH on Sunday. Lizzie BOYER was under the parental roof on Sunday. Horace MILLER and wife and son Edwin attended the golden wedding of Mr. and Mrs. Henry HANGEN, of Spinnerstown, on Saturday. Tilghman RITTER and wife entertained the following guests on Saturday. Raymond RITTER and wife of Allentown; Morris RITTER and wife, of Emaus; William GUTH and wife, of Emaus. Mr. and Mrs. Solomon DRISSLER on Sunday entertained the following guests: John MILLER and family, Morris STEPHEN and family, and Frank STEPHEN and wife of Allentown, and Rebecca SHEARER and son William, of Emaus. Quite a number of our folks attended the funeral of Anthony KLEINSMITH, of Kraussdale, on Tuesday. The public sale of Philip FLORES was largely attended on Monday. Austin URFFER, of Plover, was married on Saturday to Miss Florence KRAUSS, of Kraussdale. The groom is a son of Mr. and Mrs. C. Willis URFFER, of Plover, and a graduate of the Pennsylvania State College. The bride is a daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Henry KRAUSS, of Kraussdale. The wedding was solemnized at the parsonage of Rev. T.H. LEINBACH, of Spinnerstown. Upon the return of the couple, an excellent dinner was served. Quite a number of guests were present. In the evening the couple left on a wedding trip. CLAYTON Henry H. CLEMMER received a new bicycle from the Stauffer Bros. Mr. YOUSE, from Bally, is crushing stones for Mr. BEITLER for three or four days. The stones are to be used on the Hereford pike. Mrs. Edna KRESGE and daughter Marion, from Allentown, will spend several weeks at home with her parents. A son was born to Mr. and Mrs. David F. CLEMMER. W.A. CLEMMER received a half a dozen automatic feeders from M.G. OBERHOLTZER. Mr. BEITLER bought three from W.A. CLEMMER. No poultry keeper can afford to be without them. C.E. FISTER, teacher of the Clayton school, is hired to Alfred G. CLEMMER for the next three months. Cyrus BEITLER, after spending a few days in Reading, returned home again. Mr. and Mrs. W.A. CLEMMER attended the funeral of John B. BECHTEL, Bally. Frank R. RITTER and Wayne H. CLEMMER, from Fleetwood; Mr. and Mrs. John STAUFFER, from Eshbach's Crossing, and Mr. LANDIS, from Richland Centre, were the guests of W.A. CLEMMER on Sunday. KUMRY Oswin B. KLINE is building a new kitchen to his house. Daniel TRUMP was visiting friends at Hoppenville on Sunday. Chas. R. MUMBAUER and Jos. T. MILLER are giving their houses a new coat of paint. A pleasant party was held at the home of Edwin KULP on Monday evening. Ice cream and many other kinds of refreshments were on hand. An orchestra furnished music for the occasion. A.R. MUMBAUER and family were visiting friends at Geryville on Sunday. Oliver SHUP, Sr., and family spent Saturday and Sunday with Elmer FREED and family, who resides at White Haven. Mr. and Mrs. Tilghman FLUCK spent Sunday with his son Eugene and family in Sellersville. SKIPPACK Walter CASSEL's two year old child took sick on Sunday night with scarlet fever and died on Tuesday. It was buried privately on Wednesday. Born, to Mr. and Mrs. Jeremiah K. KRIEBEL a son on last Thursday. Clayton STEIGNER has congestion of the lungs and is very weak, and Claude, son of Machnist D.L. TYSON, has diphtheria. Both are graduates of this years class of our township. Mrs. Jacob BECK, of Lucon, is sick, but slowly improving again. Dr. J. Newton HUNSBERGER sold his mare and colt to a man in Baltimore and bought another mare from the same man. The doctor and his hired man drove the new mare for about a mile when the doctor concluded it to be the safest to get out and walk which they did and walked home. The doctor is not anxious to hook her in the wagon soon again. Mrs. A.H. SEIPT spent the better part of the week near West Point with her daughter. Mrs. William C. ROSENBERRY's mother Mrs. Samuel HALLMAN, of Upper Providence, died on Wednesday morning. S.H. ORR recently made a ten days trip to Canada. Jesse G. ROSENBERRY has commenced making hay. Rev. Jacob B. MENSCH on last Monday attended the funeral of John BECHTEL at Bally. He also visited his uncle, Dr. J.G. MENSCH at Pennsburg. William BEAN lost a horse on Wednesday of lock-jaw. He paid $200 for him this spring. NEW HANOVER John STITZER and wife, of Reading, were the guests of Jere G. RHOADS. John ACKERMAN and wife, of Royersford, were the Sunday guests of Elam ACKERMAN and family. Jacob STAUFFER lost a horse by death last week and Henry GAUGLER a mule. Henry SCHNEIDER, of Pottstown, visited his mother, Mrs. Wm. Schneider, on Sunday. Wm. F. YOUNG, Esq., of Pottstown, visited W.F. and M.F. LEIDY on Sunday. Miss Alice GEIST, hired girl with Mrs. Wm. SCHNEIDER, left her place on Monday and returned to her home. J.O. STELTZ is working at the Pottstown Bridge works. Frank DOUBLER visited Mr. and Mrs. Henry RHOADS on Sunday. Wm. KULP and wife were in Pottstown on Saturday on business. John BRANDT and wife, of Sanatoga, were noticed in town on Sunday. Rev. EARLY, of Reading, preached in the Lutheran church at Swamp on Sunday. BALLY Rev. Henry S. ADAM, who was, or will be ordained to the holy priesthood at Overbrook today, will arrive here with the 2.25 train, and will spend the night with his father, John ADAM, of this place. St. Josephs Beneficial society will meet him tomorrow at 9.30 a.m., and escort him to the church of the Blessed Sacrament, where he will read his first mass at 10 a.m. A number of visiting priests will be present, among them Rev. A. MISTILLI, of Ashland, formerly of this parish. Peter FRANK and Wm. M. KASE attended J.B. ROBISON's show at Pottstown. Henry EDDINGER and family spent several days visiting at Allentown, Bethlehem and Easton. Mrs. Oliver STENGEL returned from a few days visit to Phila. Mr. and Mrs. NICHOLAS and Henry STENGEL and family, of Reading, spent Sunday with relatives here. Rev. C. SAUER, who was confined to the house several days, is slowly recovering. The funeral of John BECHTEL was largely attended on Monday. Clement AIMS, who for some time has been in Philadelphia, returned home and accepted the position as hostler and general helpmate with Rev. Charles SAUER. David BAUER sank a new well this week, and has plenty of water at the depth of fourteen feet. Lizzie COVELY, of Phila., spent a few days with her parents at this place. SPINNERSTOWN Aaron SWEINHART spent Tuesday in Allentown. A largely attended meeting of the Luther League of the St. John's Lutheran church was held in the basement of the church on Whit Monday evening. Elwood SHELLY, of Milford Square addressed the meeting. A daughter was born to Mr. and Mrs. Edwin SMITH. Mr. and Mrs. Wm. H. SHELLY and son were the guests of Dr. and Mrs. Wm. H. STETTLER on Sunday. O.C. KEIPER, Esq., spent Tuesday in Allentown on business. The dwelling house and lot belonging to Henry DIEHL, deceased, was sold to Horace DIEHL for $1400. Dr. and Mrs. TRUMBAUER, of Vera Cruz, spent Whit Monday with Dr. and Mrs. W.H. STETTLER. Harvey REINERT spent Saturday and Sunday, at Reading. Henry ERDMAN bought a fine bay horse at Fisher & Son's horse sale last week.

I have Och's Freemansburg, PA grave photos of the following: Jacob, Philip 1813, Isadora 1848, and Susanna 1814. I will email jpg attachment to whom ever may want them. Doug Strohl

Since I am sure more members have joined I thought it would be a good time to give my Acker Family lines George Acker b 01 Sep 1787 in Berks Co., PA  m Elizabeth Wellbache children:    David b 13 March 1813 d 08 Dec 1880 m Catharine b 05 OCt 1819 d 04 Dec 1895    Elizabeth b 20 May 1815 d 15 Sep 1887 * Philip b abt 1804 age listed in the 1850 census as 46 m Catherine Dreisbach their children :    1) Benneville ( Benn/Beneval/Benevel?) b abt 1835/36 (is listed in the 1910 Luzerne Co Hazle Twp census with his daughter Mahala Faust, Benneville age is 74) m  25 Dec 1857 Margaret Howell from Yorktown their children: Mahala m Joseph Faust, Gwendolin, Angeline m Isaac Williams, ** Elizabeth (my ggrandmother), Margaret, David was alive in 1952 in Philadelphia, Pa , Charles 2) Henry 3)Mary 4)David 5)Ephraim 6)Elizabeth 7)Charles *(A kind Acker member gave me this information however, I was foolish not to keep their name and information on file. They have a note written for Philip Acker and it states this. " Philip has been added as a child here because of the records of St. John's Lutheran and Reformed Church, Tamaqua, Rohn Twp. From various baptismal and sponsorship listings there is an apparent familial connection. Philip does have a son David who would apparently have been named for his brother David. His age of 46 in the 1850 Census seems inpossible though for him to be a child of George and Elizabeth perhaps a younger brother of George? " ** Elizabeth Acker b 17 Aug 1875 d 07 Sep 1952 in Bristol Twp, Bucks County, PA m 1st George Edward Smith b 06 June 1873 (s/o Charles/Christain Schmidt/Smith and Louisa they had the following children: Mary b abt 1870 m John Bolig; John; Joseph b bat 1864 m Elizabeth Sloupe?; Rudolph b April 1875 m Sadie Evans; Paul b abt 1868 m Ammie; Theresa b abt 1860 m ? Kessler; Seville b abt 1862 m Frank Loeand?) d 12 March 1904 train accident was a brakesman their children were: Benevil b 1896 d 1896; Charles Franklin b 30 Nov 1898, Edward 1899, Myrtle b 18 March 1900, ***Florence Elizabeth b 11 April 1901,  Margaret b 1903 died 1903, Lillian b1904 died 1904 married 2nd  Michael O'Connor had one child Thelma b 29 June 1911 died June 22 1974 (Thelma had dropped the O From O'Connor changing her name to Connor ) married 3rd John Fowler of Philadelphia, PA he died 1922 *** Florence Elizabeth Smith b 11 April 1901 d 05 Jan 1988 m John Paul Pedigo b 26 Oct 1897 d May 1983 children: Carol Frances b 1929 died 1995 two living children John Paul b 15 March 1933 d 07 Feb 1993 my dad (only child)   Laura Pedigo-Ingel PS Kathryn your email address is not working please email me want to see if your ever got David's Civil War records.

Joan, In Will Abstracts of Montgomery Co., I have this: Will of George FREAS, Whitemarsh, 9/14/1808; proved 4/10/1809, 3:118. Wife Sarah Sons: Samuel, Simon, Jacob, George, daus: Mary, Elisabeth SNYDER, Catharine (FYE); and more... Diana in AL at audiana at msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Gabrie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] FREAS, George, William, Catherine > Hello, > I've been updating my family info and 2 posts on this site from May has me > confused and I would like some clarification and sources please. The > following are the posts: > > "Tacy Amanda (Freas)...George Freas, grandfather, married Barbara Wolf, > and > their children were; John, George, Samuel, Jacob, Benjamin, Daniel, > Joseph, > William, Mary...and Catharine who married William Freas..." > > "Freas, Joseph, subject, of German extraction, his father, George Freas, > married Barbara Wolf... > > Freas, Jesse, The great-grandfather of Jesse, was was from Saxony. His son > Simon, of Whitemarsh township. He married to Margaret Rapin, born in 1773 > and died in 1863, adescendant of Paul da Rapin de Thoyras. The children of > Simon and Margaret Freas, were William, David, Anna, Charles, Nicholas, > Sarah, Elizabeth, Philip, Henry, Elizabeth2, David2. > > William of this number was born Dec. 27, 1796 in Whitemarsh, he was a > blacksmith. He married Catherine Freas. Children; Jesse W. and a daughter, > Barbara Ann, who married Philip Cressman of Phila." > - ---------------------------- > I have a copy of the 1834 will of George Freas, Jr. from the Phila > Archives > in which he states his wife as Barbara and his children as Samuel, Daniel, > Joseph, Mary, Catherine and William. > > I have a marraige record from Boehm's church for William Freas and Rachael > Clare dated 1821. Their children are Margaret C. (mar. Jesse Jarrett > Kirk), > Thomas and Allan. All five are buried at Boehm's along with a Hannah Freas > and Margaret C.'s unmarried sister-in-law, Mary Shoemaker Kirk. > > Is Catharine Freas a first wife and Rachael a second? > What is the source for Catharine Freas marrying William Freas - or can > anyone clear up this confusion? > > Regards, Joan > ______________________________

Hello, listers. Those of you who don't belong to the Historical Society of Montgomery County might be interested in the Spring issue of their bulletin, which arrived in my mail box here in the Midwest this afternoon, probably two hours before spring officially ended. But it was worth the wait. There is a fascinating article about Valley Forge, in the time between the Revolution and the 1880s, when it was a fairly successful mill town. Harold R. Twiss has done a remarkable job of researching and documenting the comings and goings of residents and employers in that corner of Upper Merion Township and the way he uses census data and other public records is both interesting and refreshingly accurate. If every township in Montgomery County had an article like Mr. Twiss's written about it, we genealogists would have a much easier time pinpointing our 19th century relatives. Maybe some of the local folks can give us some pointers on how to get a copy of the article without necessarily joining the society (although membership is only $25 annually). Dan

trying to locate some info on my family...were in ambler pa.till my dad died in 1943...trying to locate his marriage license..parents were married in st. anthonys church...called norristown but they don't have any records there...any help appreciated......thanks mary....

Hello, I've been updating my family info and 2 posts on this site from May has me confused and I would like some clarification and sources please. The following are the posts: "Tacy Amanda (Freas)...George Freas, grandfather, married Barbara Wolf, and their children were; John, George, Samuel, Jacob, Benjamin, Daniel, Joseph, William, Mary...and Catharine who married William Freas..." "Freas, Joseph, subject, of German extraction, his father, George Freas, married Barbara Wolf... Freas, Jesse, The great-grandfather of Jesse, was was from Saxony. His son Simon, of Whitemarsh township. He married to Margaret Rapin, born in 1773 and died in 1863, adescendant of Paul da Rapin de Thoyras. The children of Simon and Margaret Freas, were William, David, Anna, Charles, Nicholas, Sarah, Elizabeth, Philip, Henry, Elizabeth2, David2. William of this number was born Dec. 27, 1796 in Whitemarsh, he was a blacksmith. He married Catherine Freas. Children; Jesse W. and a daughter, Barbara Ann, who married Philip Cressman of Phila." ------------------------------ I have a copy of the 1834 will of George Freas, Jr. from the Phila Archives in which he states his wife as Barbara and his children as Samuel, Daniel, Joseph, Mary, Catherine and William. I have a marraige record from Boehm's church for William Freas and Rachael Clare dated 1821. Their children are Margaret C. (mar. Jesse Jarrett Kirk), Thomas and Allan. All five are buried at Boehm's along with a Hannah Freas and Margaret C.'s unmarried sister-in-law, Mary Shoemaker Kirk. Is Catharine Freas a first wife and Rachael a second? What is the source for Catharine Freas marrying William Freas - or can anyone clear up this confusion? Regards, Joan _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hi Deborah --- Nothing like that exists. Death records in Pennsylvania after 6-30-1915 are exclusively under the control of the Commonwealth (State). There is no county recording, or any public index. Certainly would be nice if they would merely post the names, date of death, and location to allow us a clue. On the other hand, if you access the PA Vital Records Website (Dept of Health), you will find that the fees out of New Castle PA are quite low ($3), and if you have the year, you will get the cert. If you are sure of a sequence of years, there is a special $28 genie rate for 10 years. What is available at Norristown PA are the wills and administrations. The Montg Archives (access through www.montcopa.org and then select Departments, and locate Archives) is usually quite pleasant and might be able to do a quick lookup in the index for you, and then advise you of how many pages and the costs - quite reasonable. good luck dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Montgomery County Death Index Does anyone know if there is a Montgomery County, PA death index on the web that can be searched in the 1920's? Deborah