Hi -- Looking in my very detailed Montco map book: (and I did read Glenn's response). Following his directions in Schwenksville, you make the left onto Game Farm, then quickly the first right (onto Summit), then the left onto Mine Hill. At the point when Mine Hill turns left where Cemetery Lane continues ahead, and Hillcrest is to your right, you will, as Glenn says find a cemetery on your far right. That cemetery, in the map book, is indicated to be Eden Mennonite. A church by the same name appears to be on deadend Schwenk Ave just south of Game Farm and Main St (rtes 29 and 73). The map book does not indicate a Schwenksville Mennonite C. Another cemetery in the area is Keelys on Limerick Road just SW of the borough line. Hope this helps dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon L. Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Schwenksville Mennonite I left my home this morning in search of Schwenksville Mennonite Cemetery. Lo and behold I found the old church (Eden) which is not Mennonite anymore but there was no cemetery. I then drove throughout Schwenksville....found the UCC and Lutheran churches as well but they do not have a cemetery. I am searching for someone whose death was mentioned in the PAMONTGO email this morning. He is bured at Schwenksville Mennonite. Does anyone know where the cemetery is located? Thanks in advance. Sharon Smith The morning cup of coffee has an exhilaration about it which the cheering influence of the afternoon or evening cup of tea cannot be expected to reproduce. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., "Over the Teacups," 1891 - ------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ______________________________

The following information is all that I have for John Davis and Catharine Allebach, parents of Nathan Davis b. 21 March 1821. One of John's brothers was Benjamin Davis who married Jemima Roberts. They had connections to the Lower Providence Baptist Church and the family lived in Montgomery County for generations. If anyone can help me fill in this family or add data, I would be very grateful Regards, Georgia Whitson 1. JOHN4 DAVIS (ELISHA3, THOMAS2 DAVID, (UNKNOWN)1) was born Abt. 1780, and died Abt. 1833 in Limerick, Montgomery Co., PA. He married CATHARINE ALLEBACH 04 February 1808 in Montgomery Co., PA1, daughter of MICHAEL ALLEBACH and SYBILLA HALL. She was born Abt. 1786, and died Abt. 1871 in Lower Providence Twp., Montgomery Co., PA. Children of JOHN DAVIS and CATHARINE ALLEBACH are: 2. i. NATHAN5 DAVIS, b. 21 March 1821, Philadelphia, PA; d. 02 February 1876, Philadelphia, PA.

Sharon --- If you go to the Montomery County Cemetery Project site at the website below, Keely Cemetery is shown in that list. It is in Collegeville. http://members.aol.com/tmyers8644/mccem.html Mike Ziegler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon L. Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Keeler Family of Montgomery County > > > Hello.... > > I descend from Jacob Keeler (d. 1739) and is buried at Keely's Cemetery in Schwenksville. He was married to Anna Maria Scheiffley, daughter of Johann Casper Scheiffley. > > First of all, does anyone know which cemetery that is? Second......Has anyone ever determined if the Keeler family is related to the Keely, Kieler, Kahler, Keelor families..... > > I haven't dedicated much time to this line and I'm a bit confused. Any insight would be wonderful! > > Thanks, > Sharon > > > > The morning cup of coffee has an exhilaration about it which the cheering influence of the afternoon or evening cup of tea cannot be expected to reproduce. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., "Over the Teacups," 1891 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > > ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com > >

Hello.... I descend from Jacob Keeler (d. 1739) and is buried at Keely's Cemetery in Schwenksville. He was married to Anna Maria Scheiffley, daughter of Johann Casper Scheiffley. First of all, does anyone know which cemetery that is? Second......Has anyone ever determined if the Keeler family is related to the Keely, Kieler, Kahler, Keelor families..... I haven't dedicated much time to this line and I'm a bit confused. Any insight would be wonderful! Thanks, Sharon The morning cup of coffee has an exhilaration about it which the cheering influence of the afternoon or evening cup of tea cannot be expected to reproduce. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., "Over the Teacups," 1891 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

In todays paper the followin obit appeared. If you are interested email me at [email protected] Mary MESSERSCHMIDT, Roberta Emmaline ( Wimmer); 86; Leitzville PA>Menifee CA; Californian; 2003-07-22; mts

Hi Sharon, I have been to this cemetery, but not recently. You go to the north end of Schwenksville and turn left at the light on to Game Farm Rd. Go just about 30 - 50 yds and then turn right up the hill. There is a fork in just a short distance. I believe that you stay right at the fork, but I am a bit fuzzy on that turn. If you continue up the hill, the cemetery is on the right at a corner lot. Not very big. If you get to the top of the hill and no cemetery then come back to the other fork. I could also check any listing at Harleysville on Thursday. Please note new e-mail address. Glenn Landis

I left my home this morning in search of Schwenksville Mennonite Cemetery. Lo and behold I found the old church (Eden) which is not Mennonite anymore but there was no cemetery. I then drove throughout Schwenksville....found the UCC and Lutheran churches as well but they do not have a cemetery. I am searching for someone whose death was mentioned in the PAMONTGO email this morning. He is bured at Schwenksville Mennonite. Does anyone know where the cemetery is located? Thanks in advance. Sharon Smith The morning cup of coffee has an exhilaration about it which the cheering influence of the afternoon or evening cup of tea cannot be expected to reproduce. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., "Over the Teacups," 1891 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Ref: Town and Country Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - July 11, 1903 TOOK OUT 224 GALL STONES Dr. THOMPSON, of Scranton, removed 224 gall stones from Mrs. Clinton ANGLEMEYER, of Reeders, Monroe County. The largest being the size of a hickory nut. This is believed to be the largest number ever removed from a patient. CAUGHT A CRESTED HERON H.S. SMITH, of Royersford, was fishing with hook and line and to his surprise caught a crested heron. He saw the bird flying over the water, but as he was busy looking after his lines, he paid no attention to it. A few minutes afterward there was a pull at one of the lines, when he saw that the heron was in difficulty. He pulled in the line and found that the bird had swallowed the bait, which was a small minnow, and that the hook had lodged in its breast. Mr. SMITH attempted to remove the hook from the bird's throat, but was unable, and it died. Its height was nearly two feet. STORM'S RAVAGES The heavy thunder storm of last Friday afternoon did considerable damage about the neighborhood of Delphi. At Schwenksville the barn of Geo. E. BEAR was struck and slightly damaged. A walnut tree of Charles WEIRMAN and several on the farm of D.L. MILLER were struck. The barn steeple of H.H. LANDIS, of Limerick, the flag pole at the Ironbridge hotel, a cow of Solomon YERGER and Mrs. Milton MAYBERRY near Gratersford was struck by lightning and killed. CHILD TREADS IN A RAKE TOOTH Catharine, the four year old daughter of Sylvester BAUER, while out at play accidentally tread in an iron rake one prong penetrating about two inches, piercing almost entirely through the foot. Dr. O.S. BERKEY dressed the wound. QUARTETTE OF SUCCESSFUL FISHERMEN One hundred and seven pickerel, measuring from 14 to 20 inches, caught in about one and a half day's fishing, is the wonderful record made by Frank SAYLOR, Oswin and Ambrose SEASHOLTZ and Isaac RAUDENBUSH (picture), of East Greenville. The gentlemen left on the 27th of June, on an outing trip of five days to the wilds of Pike county. Their destination being Link's pond, Bushkill, Pa. Before starting they equipped themselves with the most modern fishing tackling, including hooks, lines, rods, spoon trolls and live bait. Thus equipped they proceeded to Stroudsburg, Monroe county, where they took a branch road of the D.L. & W. Railway, ten miles long, extending to Bushkill. From thence they were conveyed by team to Link's Pond, their destination. Here they met a commodious, well furnished house, offering the best of accommodation. Near their headquarters they found a beautiful artificial lake covering 130 acres, surrounded by 700 acres of woodland. After enjoying the beautiful and romantic scenery and resting from the fatigue of their trip, the quartette engaged in fishing for a day and a half. The desires for piscatorial sports were fully satisfied as may be well imagined on glancing at the above illustration. At the end of five days the gentlemen returned to their home and made their friends happy be permitting them to enjoy a part of this remarkable catch. FISHING ALONG THE PERKIOMEN Postmaster H.Z. WAMPOLE, W.H. WEIL, A.B. GODSHALL and W.C. BEAN, of Telford, spent a day at the fishy Perkiomen last week, and returned with a fine catch of black bass and German carp. Some 15 inch bass and a 24 inch carp were landed by the party. The town smelled after fish the next morning as there were twenty-five of the finny tribe frying in Telford families next morning. MAN JUMPS TRAIN AND IS INJURED Edwin SCHOOL, of Telford, jumped from a rapidly moving freight train and was severely injured. He is disabled so that he can not work. He says he is not going to meddle with freight trains in the future. GRANDFATHER CLOCK BRINGS $172. An old grandfather's clock was sold at the public sale of D. ROSENBERGER, at Schwenksville, for $172. This is as high a price as was ever paid for a clock in Montgomery county. HORSE INJURED IN RUNAWAY While the hired man of Philip SCHULTZ was delivering milk at the Clayton creamery, this week, his horse took a scare after the milk was unloaded, made a sudden turn and ran through a narrow opening between a wood pile and a coal bin. The driver jumped off and made an effort to hold the horse but could not control him. After escaping from the driver the horse ran as far as Clayton where he was caught by several men. The wagon escaped without damages but the harness was so badly damaged that it is beyond repair and the horse was so badly injured that he had to be killed, while the driver escaped with but slight injuries. HORSE DROPS DEAD IN SHAFTS Wilson INHOF, accompanied by his two uncles, drove to Sellersville, last Saturday evening. While midway between Naseville and Almont the horse took suddenly sick, dropped down in the road and expired before he could be taken from the shafts. HORSE THIEVES TRICK BOY Special Policeman Milton NEIMAN, of Pottstown, and Constable David MATHAS, of Amity township, Berks county, had an exciting experience in capturing two alleged horse thieves near Monocacy, early on Tuesday morning. Two men claiming to be Charles HENRY, of Reading, and William RUSSELL, of Philadelphia, secured a horse and buggy from George OXENFORD, of Amityville, on Tuesday, saying they wanted to drive to Reading. OXENFORD's young son Henry accompained them to return with the team. They stopped at several roadhouses and the boy was given liquor, becoming insensible. Then the men made off with the team. The liveryman sent NEIMAN and MATHAS after the men and they succeeded in making them prisoners after a prolonged fight. Constable MATHAS was badly hurt. Henry and Russell were given a hearing the same day before Justice HINES, of Douglassville, and committed to the Berks county jail. BOY FELL FROM HAY LOFT Norman H. SMITH, son of Cressman SMITH, of Woxall, fell from the hay loft of John T. CARVER, on Wednesday and broke his shoulder blade. Dr. J.E. BLANCK, of Green Lane, was called to reduce the fracture. The boy is suffering intensly from the heat and the bruises which he sustained in addition to the fracture. TWO GIRLS KIDNAPPED BY GYPSIES Anna and Mary BAKER, of Franklin, Pa., aged 19 and 4 years respectively were kidnapped from their homes by a band of gypsies who have thus far eluded arrest. The gypsies, who had encamped on the edge of the town, enticed the girls into their camp one evening this week and departed early next morning, taking along the girls. EDITOR FINED FOR LIBEL At the Allentown Court, on Monday, Bayard HANDY, Editor and proprietor of the Allentown Star, recently found guilty of libeling District Attorney LICHTENWALNER, by charging him with having accepted a bribe of $100 to settle a liquor case, was sentenced by Judge TREXLER to pay a fine of $25 and costs. NEW CARRIAGE FACTORY FOR BOYERTOWN B. LIPSCHUETZ, of Philadelphia, will open a new carriage factory in Boyertown, in the building formerly occupied by the knitting mill. BURGESS PENNYPACKER HAS TROUBLES OF HIS OWN As Burgess PENNYPACKER, of West Chester, is not infallible, the drunkards lists which he sent to the saloon keepers contained the names of some people who do not properly belong to that class. One of these is Warren BALDWIN, an electrical engineer. Mr. BALDWIN claims that the Burgess has done him great injustice, he has therefore entered suit against the burgess for defamation of character, asking damages to the amount of $5,000. PASTOR'S WIDOW RECEIVES INSURANCE MONEY Mrs. George B. WALBERT, of Macungie, wife of the former pastor of the New Goshenhoppen church, last Friday received a check for $1508.50, from the Mutual Benefit Life Insurance Co., of Newark, N.J. Rev. WALBERT was insured in said company for a period of about ten years. HORSES RUN OFF WITH REAPER The team of Josiah HARTZELL, of Argus, hitched into a reaper, was tied to a fence this week while he was attending to the shocking of the grain. During his absence the horses broke loose and started on a run for home. When they were finally caught no damage had been done beyond the breaking of the pole.

Does anyone on the list know where the early 1800 records from the Old Swedes or Christ Episcopal Church in Montgomery Co. would be archived? I am attempting to locate a birth listing for the year 1816 that I hope is recorded within the church archives. The majority of the family are listed as buried at Old Swedes/Christ Episcopal Church and a number of family marriages occurred there so I am hoping that the 1816 birth is also recorded there (I do have an exact birth date). Thank you for any help you are able to offer - this seems to be the only option left for documenting the father since he is not listed on any other record, Susan McIntyre

Ref: Town and Country Newspaper Pennsburg, Montgomery County, PA Saturday - July 11, 1903 THE DEATH LIST Mabel RENNINGER, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J.W. RENNINGER, of New Hanover, died last week aged 4 years and 8 months. The funeral was held last Friday. Rev. J.J. KLINE of Pottstown, officiating. A young child, of Frank O. and Amelia HENDRICKS, of Woxall, was buried on Wednesday, at the Old Goshenhoppen church. Rev. C.R. FETTER, of Philadelphia, officiating. Daniel FITZGERALD, of Delphi, a well known and highly esteemed citizen of Frederick, died last Sunday morning, from heart and kidney troubles, aged 66 years, 6 months and 11 days. He was superintendent of the Mennonite home, at Frederick, until a few years ago. He is survived by his second wife and two children by his first wife, Harvey, of Perkasie, and Mary wife of Levi BOUSALL, of Philadelphia. The funeral was held from his late residence on Thursday. Services were conducted by the Rev. W.S. GOTTSHALL. Interment was made in the Mennonite cemetery, Schwenksville. A CORPSE IN FLAMES Because the members of Town Council of Coplay, Lehigh county, refused to permit the fire company of the borough to attach its hose to a plug of the Clear Springs Water Company a house with all its contents was consumed by fire and the people of the borough are greatly excited over the affair. The sensational incident occurred on Wednesday afternoon, fire having broken out at 4.20 o'clock in the second story of a dwelling house occupied by Germans. The Coplay Fire Company responded promptly with the chemical engine, but when the Chief arrived on the scene the flames were bursting from one of the upstairs windows. He saw at once that the chemical engine could not cope with the flames and ordered that a hose be attached to a plug of the water company nearby. While the firemen were attaching the hose, members of the Town Council who heard that the water was to be used on the fire hurried to the place and ordered the hose detached and refused to permit the water to be used, on the grounds that the borough had no right to use the water. The firemen became furious but the Councilman remained headstrong. In the house was the corpse of Julia STANDLER, a fourteen-year-old German girl, who died at noon the day before of consumption. An undertaker was preparing the body for burial when the alarm of fire was given. Flames had already broken out in the room in which the corpse was lying when friends of the dead girl rushed in to rescue the body. The clothing on the corpse was burning and the body was blackened, parts of it being burned to a crisp. The body was removed to a neighboring house. The house was destroyed, together with all the furnishings. Between $1000 and $1200 in money, the savings of the boarders, was also consumed in the flames. The loss on the house is partly covered by insurance. The trouble between the borough authorities and the water company results from a decision of council in which they claim that the water furnished is unfit for use and refused to pay rental for the plugs. Suit was promptly started by the water company for the collection of the rents. This suit is still pending and the use of the water it was claimed by council would have jeopardized their case. PAID THE PENALTY OF HIS CRIME David SHAUD, of Lebanon, who shot and killed Mrs. Ida BECKER and Policeman Cyrus SHAFFER, was hanged on Tuesday. Before being executed he said he was peintent and sorry for his crime and prayed for forgiveness. He leaves a widow and two small children. SHAUD became angry at Mrs. Ida BECKER for testifying against him in court, and he shot and killed her on the street. When the officer went to arrest him at his home, SHAUD shot and killed him. REMORSE CAUSES SUICIDE City Solicitor J. Marshall FUNCK, one of the leading members of the Lebanon County Bar, committed suicide Tuesday morning by hanging himself in his law office at Lebanon. He used the leather belt which he wore about his waist and fastened it to a window lock. Death was due to strangulation and had occurred some hours before the body was found by his private secretary L. Raymond REIGERT. The act is believed to have been committed while suffering from a temporarily deranged mind. Mr. FUNK was 46 years old and is survived by a wife. FUNCK was counsel for John BROWNSWEIGER, who accused David SHAUD, hanged at Lebanon this week, of robbing him of $400. This led to the double tragedy for which SHAUD perished on the gallows. FUNCK believed that the strenuous manner in which he prosecuted the case against SHAUD led to the double tragedy. ENTIRE SKIN BURNED OFF Six-year-old Annie SMITH, of Bethlehem upset a rocker on which she was sitting and knocked over a coal oil parlor lamp which was standing near her, on Sunday evening. The child's clothing caught fire and before it could be extinguished her entire skin was burned off. ATE PILLS AND DIED Eating nearly a boxful of Balladona pills, which she got hold of while playing with another little girl, Catherine, the three-year-old daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Edgar YOUNG, of Weatherly, died in great agony at 7 o'clock Tuesday night. The little ones came into possession of the pills while roaming about their home. Miss Catherine throught they were candy, but soon after swallowing them she was taken very ill. A physician was summoned, but he could not save her life. DISOBEDENT BROTHERS DROWNED George and Jacob WALTERS, aged 11 and 13 years, sons of Frank WALTERS, of near Pequea Station, Lancaster, were drowned in the Susquehanna on Wednesday. The father had left the boys playing on the river bank, with the promise that they would not go bathing. Soon after he left one of the little fellows waded into the stream. He was caught in a swift current, and while his brother was going to rescue both sank. Both bodies have been recovered. EDITOR PASSES AWAY Cyrus KUNTZ, editor and proprietor of the City Item, Allentown, passed away at his home on Tuesday of apoplexy. Editor KUNTZ was a practical printer and rose from the case to the important position of editor and finally became the sole owner of the City Item with which he linked his fortunes when the paper was started. MAN FELL ON HEAD AND DIED John BURKET, of Norristown, was working in the barn, of John RICKLE, on Thursday afternoon. His duties took him to the rafters, and while working, lost his footing and fell to the floor below, fracturing his skull. The victum was placed on a cot in a wagon to remove him to Charity Hospital but expired on the way. LEHIGH UNIVERSITY STUDENT KILLED George Herbert ADAMS, a Lehigh University Freshman, was run over and killed on the Reading Railway in South Bethlehem.

I have the following obit in my newspaper. If you are interested pleas email me [email protected] Mary CLOUTIER, Marjorie K.; 93; Doylestown PA>Riverside CA; PE; 2003-07-16;

I am not familiar with the region and the various newspapers available so I am obviously confused. Let me explain what I am looking for. What I need is access to newspaper obituaries where a 02 July 1942 death occurring in Wyncote, Montgomery, Pennsylvania would have been published. Please keep in mind I do not live anywhere near this area and will not be able to visit in person. Previously when I posted a query to this list I was told by a couple people that it may have been published by The Time Chronicle in Norristown PA. That is why I was asking for information on The Times Chronicle. In an attempt to obtain a copy of the obit I have previously written to the Free Library who checked the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Philadelphia Evening Bulletin from 2 July 1942 to 9 July 1942 without any luck. I also wrote to the funeral home (Helweg Funeral Service Jenkintown, PA) but have not received a reply since Feb 2003. Is The Time Herald appropriate for what I need? If so, should I just write to them or to the Historical Society of Montgomery County? Would greatly appreciate any additional suggestions on where to write for local are newspaper obits for Wyncote, PA. Regards, Nancy >Do you mean The Times Herald? They would be able to best help >you. I am not >sure if it was called The Times Chronicle years ago but today >its The Times >Herald. They have a library in the offices in Norristown >where they archive the >old papers you may be able to get some help if you call and >ask them there. >The Times Herald's website is <A >HREF="http://www.timesherald.com/">http://timesherald.com/</A> >Historical Society of Montgomery County, 1654 DeKalb St., >Norristown, PA >19401; phone: 610.272.0297 >Montgomery County Archives, 1880 Markely St., Norristown, PA >19401; phone: >610.278.3441 >Good Luck and I hope I have been of some help! >Tracy

According to "Pennsylvania Line", Whitpain Township was formed about 1701 in Montgomery Co., PA Glenn Landis

Do you mean The Times Herald? They would be able to best help you. I am not sure if it was called The Times Chronicle years ago but today its The Times Herald. They have a library in the offices in Norristown where they archive the old papers you may be able to get some help if you call and ask them there. The Times Herald's website is <A HREF="http://www.timesherald.com/">http://timesherald.com/</A> Historical Society of Montgomery County, 1654 DeKalb St., Norristown, PA 19401; phone: 610.272.0297 Montgomery County Archives, 1880 Markely St., Norristown, PA 19401; phone: 610.278.3441 Good Luck and I hope I have been of some help! Tracy

Thanks Dianne. Interesting site. maybe I can get some answers there. Leon

Thanks, I see links to PENNSBURG but there is nothing to indicate Norristown or more specifically The Times Chronicle. Nancy

I have some links on my web site under Montgomery County. * Nancy Bucks County History and Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAMONTGO-L] Norristown newspaper - The Times Chronicle I am looking for a death notice or obituary that may have appeared in the Norristown, PA newspaper The Times Chronicle. Does anyone know whether the Montgomery County Historical Society has a website? I have tried searching Google but haven't come up with a link that works. Regards, Nancy ==== PAMONTGO Mailing List ==== Make your subject lines meaningful.

I am looking for a death notice or obituary that may have appeared in the Norristown, PA newspaper The Times Chronicle. Does anyone know whether the Montgomery County Historical Society has a website? I have tried searching Google but haven't come up with a link that works. Regards, Nancy

In a message dated 7/17/03 3:26:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Can anyone tell me when Whitpain twp was erected and if it was formed from Gwyned twp? >> Leon ~ They have a web page.....http://www.whitpaintownship.org/ Dianne

Hi, Can anyone tell me when Whitpain twp was erected and if it was formed from Gwyned twp? Thanks. Leon Young