I am looking for Maria Kunkle who married William Henry WALTON. 1850 cen. of Pa gives her birth yr. as 1805. They lived in Lower Narzeth Twp. She is my 2-G-Grandmother. My email is [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

Perhaps we should do copies to all interested in this family via e-mail. I am willing to share any information I have. I don't have much on the Youngs but a lot on the VanBuskirks. I am still living in Monroe County. Where are the rest of you located? Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Klines" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:57 AM Subject: [PAMONROE] Young / Arnold : I just resubscribed after being away a while, and am interested in the : Nicholas Young discussion. : I have a Maria Margaretha Jung (Young) b. abt 1736 in Baumholder, : Palatinate,Pfalz,Germany. She was married to Conrad ARNOLD, and I think had : a brother Nicholas. Might this be the same family? If so, could someone fill : me in on other siblings, parents, etc. : Thanks, : Bob Kline : Montgomery Co., PA : : : : ==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== : When asking for information, please remember to be as specific : as possible. Include full names, dates, places and relatives : that will help set your "John SMITH" apart from the rest. : :

Charlotte, I live in a suburb of St. Paul, MN. I am probably about 2 hours from Deb in Lake Mills, IA Did you receive what I sent you? Peace & Joy, Nancy Don't be discouraged, Moses was a basket case at one time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [PAMONROE] Young / Arnold > Perhaps we should do copies to all interested in this family via e-mail. I > am willing to share any information I have. I don't have much on the Youngs > but a lot on the VanBuskirks. I am still living in Monroe County. Where are > the rest of you located? > > Charlotte > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Klines" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:57 AM > Subject: [PAMONROE] Young / Arnold > > > : I just resubscribed after being away a while, and am interested in the > : Nicholas Young discussion. > : I have a Maria Margaretha Jung (Young) b. abt 1736 in Baumholder, > : Palatinate,Pfalz,Germany. She was married to Conrad ARNOLD, and I think > had > : a brother Nicholas. Might this be the same family? If so, could someone > fill > : me in on other siblings, parents, etc. > : Thanks, > : Bob Kline > : Montgomery Co., PA > : > : > : > : ==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== > : When asking for information, please remember to be as specific > : as possible. Include full names, dates, places and relatives > : that will help set your "John SMITH" apart from the rest. > : > : > > > ==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== > Do you have any information that you would like to share with > other Monroe County, PA researchers? Please email [email protected] > to find out more about doing this. >

Lehigh County John Steckel, grandfather, native of Lehigh County. Daniel Steckel, father, mother Elizabeth Frantz, she died in 1879, aged 78 Alfred Steckel, subject, native of Lehigh County, on June 2, 1866, Dr. Steckel married Amanda Elizabeth Peters, of Lehigh County, d/o Charles, a native of Switzerland, he came to America and settled in Lehigh County. Her mother, Catharine German. The Dr.and his wife are the parents of 6 sons and 5 daughter, William, Lewis, Nevin, Daniel, Alfred, Peter Charles, Horace Blain, Harvey Harback, Earl Hastings, Margaret Edith, Catherine Elizabeth, Ursula Amanda, Emma Lucretia and Estella May. German Reformed Church. Steckel, Peter, subject, of Allentown, he was born in Catasauqua, Lehigh County, the son of Robert Steckel, a native of South Whitehall township. The mother was Hannah Frederick of S. Whitehall township. In 1874 he married Rebecca A., d/o Charles Henneger of S. Whitehall. They had one daughter, Esther A. Their home was 239 North Seventh Street. Boyer, Amandes, of Catasaugua, born in 'Bucks County, Aug 11, 1862, son of George, also a native of Bucks County. George Boyer married Aurilla Wenholt, d/o Thomas. Members of St. Paul's Church. Of the five children living, Amandes (subect) married in Allentown, in 1885, Mary Young, their children; Melinda, who died young, Edward G. Members of St. Paul's. Lived on Mulbery Street. Best Wishes, Geri

Grandfather, Christian Meyer, of Plumstead township Bucks County Father, Samuel, mother, Susanna (Nash) natie of Bucks County. the father died in 1878. He hhad 8 children, 6 survived; Jacob N., Tobias N., Christian N., Amos N., Anna and Charles T. (Tobias) N., married Rosanna, d/o Philip Kratz, they had 5 children; U.S. Grant, Samuel A., Lillie M., Rosa P., and Laura P. Steckel, Samuel,(subject) was born in Durham township, Bucks County, Sept 28, 1826, s/o Samuel Sr. and Ann (Black) Steckel. His father was born in Springfield township and his mother in Phila., His great-grandfather Steckel came from Germany and settled in Bucks County about 1725. His grandfather, Philip Steckel was born in Bucks County, the only son of his parents. He came to Doylestown in 1778. Subject's father was born in 1789 the only son of his parents. He moved to Durham township, 1818, and he lived there until death, which occured 1868. He served in the War of 1812. He was the father of 8 children, two of whom was Samuel and Julia Boyle. His wife died died 1861. Samuel, moved to Phila.., in 1861, he married in 1866 to Catharine B. d/o David and Anna M. (Brunner) Grove. They had 2 children, William H., and Edward L. Jacob Meyers, subject, of Keller's Church, was born in Haycock township, Jan. 27, 1807, the son of Jacob and Catharine (Youngken) Meyers, and he was the 6th of 7 children. In 1837 he married Caroline, d/o Abraham and Catherine Zeigenfuss. In 1839 they had a daughter, who married B. Frank Slifer. Member of the Lutheran church Franklin G. Meyers (subject) of Richland Center, was born in 1830. His grandfather was Jacob Meyers, native of Bucks County, he married Catharine Youngken. 5 children were born, Henry was the oldest. Henry married Catharine "Groover, d/o Elias. Franklin G., their only child married Lizzie Wolfinger, d/o Reuben and Sarah (Diehl) . No children. Members of the German Reformed Church. B. Frank Slifer, of Keller's Church, was born in Springfield township, Bucks County. He was the son of John and Caroline Slifer and the 2nd son of 7 children. In 1869 he married Sarah Ann, d/o Jacob and Caroline (Ziegenfuss) Moyer, of Bucks County. No children. Sarah Ann, was an only child. Abraham Z. Stover, subject, of Keller's Church was born in 1840. His grandfather, Abraham Stover ,was born July 9, 1793 and married Susanna Stover, in 1814. He died April 20, 1874. Abraham Stover had 9 children, the oldest was Henry L., who married Mary Ann, the d/o Henry Ziegenfuss, of Rockhill township. Moyer, Christian , grandfather, father of 6 Abraham, son of Christian. when his mother died he was sent to be under the care of an uncle. At age 21, he married Hester Hunsberger, d/o Jacob and Mary (Moyer) Moyer, Isaac H. of Blooming Glen, was born in Bucks County, 1820. His grandparents were Samuel and Susanna (Blaim) Moyer, They had 4 sons and 3 daughter, of whom Christian was the eldest son. He married Kate Hunsberger, d/ol Isaac, of Bucks County. 5 children were born, Isaac H, was the 2nd son, In 1850 he married, Annie, d/o Martin and Susaana (Betchel ) George, of Montgomery County. Moyer, Jonas D., of Dublin, Bucks County. His grandfather, came from Germany. Born to this pioneer, was a son, Joseph, who married Elizabeth Detweiler of Montgomery County. They had 6 children, Jonas D., being the 2nd son. He married in 1848 Caroline H., d/o Jacob S.and Sarah Harley. They had 3 children Theodore born 1851, Ellen Jane, born 1852, Jesses H., born 1856 now of Texas. Moyer, Samuel H., of Lawndale, is the son of Jacob and Hannah Moyer. His grandfather, Samuel Moyer married Susan Blaim, by whom he had 4 sons and 2 daughter. Jacob, next to the youngest, married Hannah Moyer, d/o William Moyer, of Springfield township.They had 4 children, Samuel being the youngest. Samuel H., married Mary Moyer, d/o Enos and Leanna Moyer of Montgomery County. They are the parents of, Allen M., Leanna M., Enos M., William M., Jacob M., Samuel W., Mamie Stella, and Henry Clayton. Myers, A.F. (Dr.) of Blooming Glen, was the 6th child born to John K. and Mary (Fretz) Myers of Bucks County. Rosenberger, J.B. of Dublin, Bucks County, born in 1847. His grandfather was Eli Rosenberger, married Miss Hunsbeger, he had 2 children, Isaac and Henry (twins). Isaac married Susanna, d/o Jacob and Annie (Fretz) Bishop of Bucks County. They were the parents of 9 children, 3 living, At age 28, J.B. married Sallie, d/o William F., and Elizabeth Moyer. Member of the Mennonite Church. Best Wishes, Geri

Does anyone by chance have a copy of the second petition to the Bucks County Commissioners for the creation of a new Smithfield Township, different in size apparently from the creation of Smithfield in 1742. The inhabitants petitioned in 1746 for a new Smithfield Township, but apparently the June 1748 petition was for a smaller township than petitioned for in 1746, and was approved by the court. What I'm looking for is the "legal description" of the township. Leon Young sent me this excellent URL on Smithfield Township: http://www.monroeco911.com/smithhistory.htm It contains the description for the township proposed in 1746, but not the description from the 1748 petition. Thanks, Marie Robinson

I just resubscribed after being away a while, and am interested in the Nicholas Young discussion. I have a Maria Margaretha Jung (Young) b. abt 1736 in Baumholder, Palatinate,Pfalz,Germany. She was married to Conrad ARNOLD, and I think had a brother Nicholas. Might this be the same family? If so, could someone fill me in on other siblings, parents, etc. Thanks, Bob Kline Montgomery Co., PA

My William and Christiana were born in Monroe county circa 1807-1808. They are in the 1850 census for Jackson Twp. with among others, my GG Grandfather, Jacob Young VanBuskirk. By 1860, William is missing, presumed dead. But in reality is in Minnesota by 1872 being gored to death by a bull. Of course, he and Christiana have by then begun to use her maiden name and all the children with them also use the name Young. Except, Jacob and Nicholas who use the VanBuskirk name in the Civil War and return to Pennsylvania, settling in Barrett Twp. Now, Nicholas after a time begins to use the alias Nicholas Bates. Confused yet? Also traveling with them was a Samuel and Susanna Young. This summer past one of the Minnesota Youngs came to visit PA to try to unravel some of the mystery and their true last name. If you send your e-mail address off list, I will forward what I have from them. Perhaps you hold pieces of the puzzle? ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. Young" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: [PAMONROE] Christy Young : Back again, Charlotte, : Do you have anything on Christiana Young that you can share? What is the : time frame and location for your Van Buskirk? Thanks : : Leon Young : : : : ==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== : Do you have any information that you would like to share with : other Monroe County, PA researchers? Please email [email protected] : to find out more about doing this. : :

*Charlotte, I have been following your discussion with Leon these past few days. I, too, am descended from the Jung family. Were your Wm and Christiana ever in WI? The Van Buskirk's of PA> WI married into the Arnold family (also from Monroe Co.PA, of course) I would bet all these folk are connected. Where in MN did Wm get gored by the bull? I live in MN and am close the History center in St. Paul. All sorts of great newspapers are on file there. I would be interested in pursuing this connection-hopefully you are too. Let me know. You can reach me @ [email protected] **Leon, I would also be interested in getting actual copies of the church records you have on the Jung's. Would be happy to pay for any expenses. We have corresponded in the past and you have been so helpful! Peace & Joy, Nancy Don't be discouraged, Moses was a basket case at one time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [PAMONROE] Christy Young > My William and Christiana were born in Monroe county circa 1807-1808. They > are in the 1850 census for Jackson Twp. with among others, my GG > Grandfather, Jacob Young VanBuskirk. By 1860, William is missing, presumed > dead. But in reality is in Minnesota by 1872 being gored to death by a bull. > Of course, he and Christiana have by then begun to use her maiden name and > all the children with them also use the name Young. Except, Jacob and > Nicholas who use the VanBuskirk name in the Civil War and return to > Pennsylvania, settling in Barrett Twp. Now, Nicholas after a time begins to > use the alias Nicholas Bates. Confused yet? > > Also traveling with them was a Samuel and Susanna Young. > > This summer past one of the Minnesota Youngs came to visit PA to try to > unravel some of the mystery and their true last name. If you send your > e-mail address off list, I will forward what I have from them. Perhaps you > hold pieces of the puzzle? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L. Young" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:11 AM > Subject: [PAMONROE] Christy Young > > > : Back again, Charlotte, > : Do you have anything on Christiana Young that you can share? What is > the > : time frame and location for your Van Buskirk? Thanks > : > : Leon Young > : > : > : > : ==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== > : Do you have any information that you would like to share with > : other Monroe County, PA researchers? Please email [email protected] > : to find out more about doing this. > : > : > > > ==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== > Do you have any information that you would like to share with > other Monroe County, PA researchers? Please email [email protected] > to find out more about doing this. > >

Saucon Mennonite cemetery Bachman, Johannes, born 9 Aug 1735 died 5 Oct 1805 Friedensville cemetery Bachman, Johannes, born 15 Aug 1754 died 10 Feb. 1825, his wife, His wife, (?) born Zeisloff, 2 Oct 1756 died 12 March 15 Sept. 1827 Schoeneck cemetery Romig, Catharine, born Knaus, at Emaus, 4 July 1776, died 19 Dec 1838 Romig. J. Adam, born at Macungie, 7 April 1766, died 14 April 1841 Allentown Romig, Elizabeth, wife of John Adam, born 3 April, 1753, died 24 July 1838 Zions Church Bachman, Friedrich, born 18 Sept. 1755, died 14 March 1829. Bachman, Catharine, born Heckman, born 8 Sept. 1754, died 5 May 1831 Lower Saucon Christman, John, 29 Oct 1775 , died 9 Feb. 1841, wife Christina, children; John, Elizabeth, married Charles Bachman, Sara, Rebecca married Daniel Beidelman, Charles, Anna, Christian married Harman Fetter, Amos Easton Bachman, Abraham, born 24 May 1746, died 16 Oct 1817 Phoebe, his wife, died 1 April 1806, age 55 Forks Stocker, Andreas, 1743-1813, children; Rosene married Jacob Romig, Adam, Andrew, John, Christian, Jacob, Francis, Catharine married David Savitz. Juliana his wife, 1751-1823 Best Wishes, Geri

If Christiana married William VanBuskirk, then yes. And therein begins a mystery in the west..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. Young" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:22 AM Subject: [PAMONROE] Christiana Young : Hi Charlotte, : Nicholas Young Sr didn't have a Christiana but his son, Nicholas Jr did. : Nick Jr's wife was Christina (or Christiana) Romig (or Romitch) and they : apparently named 2 daughters Christina, one born 4 Feb 1799 : and who probably died in infancy and another born 20 Jan 1810. Are you : descended from Nick Jr? : sincerely, : Leon Young : : : : ==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== : Have you posted the surnames you are researching lately? : Remember there are always new people being added to the list : who may have not seen your queries yet. : :

Would one of those daughters be Christiana Young ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. Young" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 8:10 PM Subject: [PAMONROE] Nicholas Young's children : Hi Kay from Alabama, : Glad to hear from you. Nicholas and Rachel Young had 10 children, 6 : daughters and 3 sons. I have all their birth records from the Hamilton Union : church. I also have Nicholas's family records from Baumholder, Germany. Tell : me where to send them. Thanks for answering. : Sincerely, : Leon : : : : ==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== : When asking for information, please remember to be as specific : as possible. Include full names, dates, places and relatives : that will help set your "John SMITH" apart from the rest. : :

Marie Robinson wrote: > Oh oh! There may be more than one great swamp? I have these references > pertaining to adjoining tracts in old Chesnuthill Township: > > One says: "situate on Tunkhanna Creek, about a mile from the Blockhouse in > Northampton County." [1790 reference] > > The other says "situate near the road leading from Sh [sic] to Wioming about > half a mile South of the block house in Northampton County." [1793 > reference] > > A third tract says " Edge of the great Swamp near the Block house in > Northampton County." [1789 reference] > > The fourth tract says just "Chesnuthill Township." [1773 reference] > From what you are quoting I don't think it's really refering to "Great Swamp" as a place name but a generic area. I hadn't heard of Tunkhanna Creek before but found this: http://home.ptd.net/~mexorob/T.html It also describes the older boundaries of Chestnuthill and you can see from it that all of the modern day "west end" is pretty well covered. I take it this would mean south of Tobyhanna, but by the western boundary of "Towamensing" state in that site I could see potentially that areas close to the Carbon/Monroe must have been covered. I do not know if the names of the Lehigh river are the same or not, but we may not just call it all the Lehigh now. However I suspect the modern Pocono Pines area may be what the Tunkhanna refers to which could well make the swampy area south of Tobyhanna equal to "Long Pond". Geoff Crawford [email protected]

Hi Leon, That would be great. MY email address is [email protected] Can you send it as an attachment? If not I will send you my street address for a hard copy. Kay L. Young wrote: > Hi Kay from Alabama, > Glad to hear from you. Nicholas and Rachel Young had 10 children, 6 > daughters and 3 sons. I have all their birth records from the Hamilton Union > church. I also have Nicholas's family records from Baumholder, Germany. Tell > me where to send them. Thanks for answering. > Sincerely, > Leon > > ==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== > When asking for information, please remember to be as specific > as possible. Include full names, dates, places and relatives > that will help set your "John SMITH" apart from the rest.

Marie Robinson wrote: > Can anyone tell me where exactly the Big Swamp or Great Swamp is or was? > It was once part of the original Northampton Co. but is in Lehigh Co. today. - Monroe may have been created out of Northampton but so were other counties. Great Swamp is an area of the sourthern part of Lehigh Co. near the area where Lehigh, Northampton, Montgomery and Bucks all meet. Just on the Lehigh side. Geoff Crawford [email protected]

Oh oh! There may be more than one great swamp? I have these references pertaining to adjoining tracts in old Chesnuthill Township: One says: "situate on Tunkhanna Creek, about a mile from the Blockhouse in Northampton County." [1790 reference] The other says "situate near the road leading from Sh [sic] to Wioming about half a mile South of the block house in Northampton County." [1793 reference] A third tract says " Edge of the great Swamp near the Block house in Northampton County." [1789 reference] The fourth tract says just "Chesnuthill Township." [1773 reference] Marie. > >It was once part of the original Northampton Co. but is in >Lehigh Co. today. - Monroe may have been created out of >Northampton but so were other counties. Great Swamp is >an area of the sourthern part of Lehigh Co. near the area >where Lehigh, Northampton, Montgomery and Bucks all meet. >Just on the Lehigh side. >

Can anyone tell me where exactly the Big Swamp or Great Swamp is or was? Thx, Marie.

I don't know specifically what "Shellalah" stands for but beginning in 1766, naming tracts was required when the land was patented.  The two Receiver Generals and Thomas Penn, at the time, thought it would help the record keeping in the collection of annual quitrents to follow a tract by its name rather than trying to follow the owners or new owners of a tract.  I'm mapping Chesnut Hill Township--if you could send me the metes and bounds information (legal description which includes the words "degrees" and "perches"), I could show you what the tract looked like and, if I have it already on my map, maybe the name of the family members of the original warrantee or patentee would give you a clue to the name "Shellalah." Was Nicholas Young the original warrantee? Marie. >-----Original Message----- >From: L. Young [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:57 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [PAMONROE] Monroe Co tract > > >Hi, > I have a copy of a land deed dated 1808 conveying some 64 acres to Perry >Gilmore, grandson of Nicholas Young. The tract is called "Shellalah" and is >located in Chestnuthill Twp (then Northampton Co). Would anyone know the >significance of the term, Shellalah, and its present location? Neighbors >named were Adam Butz, Henry Siglin, Samuel Green and Richard >Peters. Thanks. >Leon > > > >==== PAMONROE Mailing List ==== >Have you posted the surnames you are researching lately? >Remember there are always new people being added to the list >who may have not seen your queries yet. > > >

Back again, Charlotte, Do you have anything on Christiana Young that you can share? What is the time frame and location for your Van Buskirk? Thanks Leon Young

Hi Charlotte, Nicholas Young Sr didn't have a Christiana but his son, Nicholas Jr did. Nick Jr's wife was Christina (or Christiana) Romig (or Romitch) and they apparently named 2 daughters Christina, one born 4 Feb 1799 and who probably died in infancy and another born 20 Jan 1810. Are you descended from Nick Jr? sincerely, Leon Young