Hi Fred No, I don't have access to One World Tree. I do have a copy of Newton Antes & Catherine with children John 2 & Alice 4/12 on the 1860 census record in Clearfield Co., Morris Twp. 1880 Catherine Ebbs 44 with children Samuel R. & Edith U both 7, John L. Antis 23, Nora W. Antis 17 & Enolia M. Antis 11. Living next door to to Mathias Plank with Father in law George Dorey living in the house hold. George is the father of Margaret Dorey. Margaret is John H.'s Ebbs' mother. familysearch.org has John H. Ebbs with Catherine J. Waring & children Edith U, & Samuel Raymond in Philipsburg, PA Centre Co. 1900 I believe Catherine is with her son John in Philipsburg Centre Co., but I can't make out the census that well. What record are you looking at off hand that has the children George & Katie? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: HoutsRFred@aol.com To: slbearer@comcast.net ; ekahler@yahoo.com ; jcopple@msn.com ; jlhan@msn.com ; pacentre@rootsweb.com ; pacambri@rootsweb.com ; c.cupp2@acsalaska.net ; pamiffli@rootsweb.com ; pablair@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Ebbs tidbit 2nd note SUSAN -- Do you have access to OneWorldTree at Ancestry.com? My past experience with information posted here is that you have to re-check and verify stuff, because there's a lot of information at OneWorldTree that is often incorrect. Now, having said that - I just found Catharine Waring, born 1837, died 1898, d/o Samuel and Susannah (Shimmel) Waring, m/1 Newton G. Antes, m/2 John Ebbs. The site provides no details at all on John Ebbs, nor does it name any children born to John & Catharine (Waring) Ebbs. It does, however, name 4 children born to her by Mr. Antes: John, Geo., Nora & Katie Antes. Fred Houts ================================== In a message dated 6/1/2008 11:35:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, slbearer@comcast.net writes: Just a second note real quick, because it looks like unless John H. Ebbs was married twice. I might not have corrected some of my first notes on John H. Ebbs. I have John H. Ebbs birth about 1840 in Franklin, Huntingdon, PA married about 1872 in Centre Co., PA to Catherine J Waring. Children of Edith U. & Samuel Raymond (possible twins) both with a birth of 03/25/1873 in Philipsburg, Centre Co., PA. Catherine was born in Clearfield PA 09/1836 & died Aug 1913 in Philipsburg, Centre Co., PA & although I haven't found an obituary on her it says that she is buried in the Philipsburg Cemetery. To top it off I just found the Samuel I was trying to figure out also. Don't you love it when the pieces fall into place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "slbearer" <slbearer@comcast.net> To: "elaine kahler" <ekahler@yahoo.com>; <jcopple@msn.com>; "L J HANSFORD" <jlhan@msn.com>; <pacentre@rootsweb.com>; <pacambri@rootsweb.com>; <c.cupp2@acsalaska.net>; <pamiffli@rootsweb.com>; <pablair@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Ebbs tidbit > Hi Elaine > > Nice to hear from you again. Of course anything on my Ebbs is always > appreciated & thanks so much for thinking of me, however, now I really > have a bit of confusion going on. Your mention of J.F. Ebbs reminded me > that I have been looking for a J.F. Ebbs. How do you know this is the son > of Emanuel & Mary, in CA & I know this says wife but could this Annie > possibly be Jeremiah's daughter? Wait, rather then go by my [poor] memory > I am not going to mention that might be his daughter Annie until I look > back to see what dates & such I have for her for less confusion later. > I'm including Lois & Jean in this, they are coming in on the Ward side & > I'm looking for all the help I can get on this one. Cindy I am including > you since we've found some new Ward descendants & I believe that the > Ward's are from your area of expertise & I would like to include you on > some of our up coming conversations on the Wards also. > > I have Jeremiah Ebbs b. Abt. 1838 in PA married to Sarah H. b. 1831 in > PA. Children of Ellsworth J., Maria Elizabeth (Lizzie), John Wilson & > Anna M. [ I am wondering what Ellsworth's middle name might have been? > Anyone know? I wonder if the name James would fit in there?] > > On Jeremiah Ebbs 06/21/1880 census in Halfmoon Twp., Centre Co., PA. I > have Ebbs, Jeremiah 42, Farmer. Sarah H. 49. Ellsworth J. 18. Lizzie M. > 16. Wilson J. 15, Laborer. Anna M. 11. James 83, Carpenter, b. England, > parents from England. > [They were living next door to Jeremiah's sister Nancy.] Cornelious, > George 50. Laborer from PA. Nancy 44. Thomas, Lytle 7, nephew. Maria > Ebbs 70, mother-in-law. > > These two census records are surely odd. The similarities might make you > think that they might have been the same family just visiting someone one > of those two days, but why would they both be head of household? Next > all census records tell me that Jeremiah was a plasterer, but in my > records I for some reason did not go any further then 1880 for Jeremiah so > I am thinking I might not have been able to find him. > > On this same 1880 census I have: > > 06/25/1880 Ferguson Twp., Centre Co., PA. Ebbs, J. F. Plasterer 42. S. > Hannah 48. [Would everyone agree that the next child would be James E.? > Jno E.?] Jms E. 19, plasterer, Jno W. 15, plasterer apprentice. Annie > 11. > > [Notes:Does anyone know what Sarah's [Jeremiah's wife's] maiden name was > or who her parents were? James was another son of Emanuel I's. I have > conflicting dates as to if he was actually older or younger then Emanuel. > Does anyone know?] I also had a Sarah Hannah somewhere but it does not > seem to be jumping out at me here, so I guess perhaps that must not be > her. Next I also have another son of Emanuel Ebbs II named John H. birth > about 1840 in PA married 12/26/1854 in Baileyville, Huntingdon, Co., PA to > Sara Ward. A little odd but what isn't in this business. Could one of > these two Ebbs actually be John. Does anyone have John H.'s middle name > or know what happened to him? I don't have any information on this Sara > Ward. Does anyone know what her middle name was? Does anyone have her > birth or death information? Was she John M. Ward's sister & the daughter > of Simon Ward & Elizabeth Sellers? > > Ok, I've long ran out of time for the evening. I certainly hope with > everyone included we will be able to pull some answers together here. > > Susan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: elaine kahler > To: slbearer@comcast.net > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 6:27 PM > Subject: Ebbs tidbit > > > Hello - > > I'm not sure when I last emailed you - December, January? At any > rate, I just stumbled across an obituary that fits into the Ebbs line - > > The following is for Annie E. Ebbs, second wife of Jeremiah Ebbs. > Jeremiah was the son of Emanuel Ebbs Jr and Mary Maria Kagarise. > Jeremiah's first wife, Sarah, must have died prior to 1900, as I find him > in the census records with Annie as of 1900. > > Death notice from the Los Angeles Times, Los Angeles, California, > November 24, 1913: > "Ebbs - November 22, 1913, at No. 1284 North Hudson Avenue, > Pasadena, Annie E. Ebbs, aged 64 years, wife of J. F. Ebbs. > "Funeral services at 2:30 p.m. Monday, November 24, 1913 at parlors > of Turner & Stevens Co, Pasadena." > > I do not have a death date nor an obituary for Jeremiah. I think > he died between 1924 (he is listed on the California Voter List that year) > and 1930 (he is not in the census that year). > > So, this is not much to add, but I thought you might want it. > > Elaine Kahler > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.