Hi Kathy and Fellow Listers: There is the following reference to the surname HOWARD in Abstracts of South Central Pennsylvania Newspapers (1785-1790)..... Not sure if this would be any relationship to your Thomas Howard or not? The Carlisle Gazette - dated: March 7, 1787 Notice is given not to take assignment of bonds given to heirs and executors of Joseph HOWARD, decd, in consequence of a bargain made between us, for tract once the property of aforesaid Joseph Howard, in Wayne twp., Cumberland Co. - John MEVEY, Wayne twp. Donna Heller Zinn ----- Original Message ----- From: <PughKJ@aol.com> > I am new to PA research. Are there books available that have transcribed > church records in Cumberland Co? Actually, I think this family may have been > in Mifflin Co., PA (because of county boundary change in 1786) before they > moved to NY. I would then have to look at churches there. What is the likely > hood that their church will still be around? I don't know what religion they > were. I do know that the Howards were hanging with the Armstrong's, > Trimmer's and Patterson's. But, I can't find all three families in the 1790 census > together. In a Bio of one of the families I read, mentioned that the Howards > came from the Gore. What &/where is the Gore? >