Pat, Sorry I was working s girls basket ball game so, I could not get right back to you! I own alot of these books myself............I have searched all of them time and, time again.........I found nothing ! I am in search of records of Wayne Cemetery Church records...............I have been to the Cemetery and, found no stones with the names that I am in search of.......someone HAS to know where there are plots that are emply and the ones that are in use ! Wouldm't you think? I have copies of all the pages from all the books.......hubby has bought me so many books . Thank you for your offer...... Bea ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Crimmel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > I have a book called Obituaries of Mifflin County 1822/1880 by Dan > McClenahen I found > death notices for some Bollinger's although not James. I also found a > number of notices for the Sutherland Family, although none by the first name > of Aramina. If you are interested in these notices please let me know. > This information was extracted from the Juniata Gazette, the Lewistown > Gazette and the Lewistown Republican. > Pat > > > --- Original Message ----- > From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:13 PM > Subject: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > > > > Good Day, > > I am in search of information on the James M. Bolinger/Bollinger and > > Aramina B. Sunderland Families. Looking for information on their > > children.old photos .....anything on James and Aramina Bolinger/Bollinger. > > Is this couple in your families tree? Would like to hear from you! > > Thank you > > Kindly > > Bea > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > > Mifflin County Historical Society > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Mifflin County Genealogy Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/ > Check out the new bibliography page. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Bea, Have you tried checking with the library in Lewistown? They may have some idea in which direction to point you in order to find these records. You also might try calling City Hall. The sad thing is sometimes those old records are just lost. We have an old cemetery in our area that has a lot of unmarked graves and those records have been lost for years. I'm sorry I don't live in that area of the country so I can't be of much help. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > Pat, > Sorry I was working s girls basket ball game so, I could not get right > back > to you! > I own alot of these books myself............I have searched all of them > time > and, time again.........I found nothing ! > I am in search of records of Wayne Cemetery Church records...............I > have been to the Cemetery and, found no stones with the names that I am in > search of.......someone HAS to know where there are plots that are emply > and > the ones that are in use ! Wouldm't you think? > I have copies of all the pages from all the books.......hubby has bought > me > so many books . > Thank you for your offer...... > Bea > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Crimmel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > > >> I have a book called Obituaries of Mifflin County 1822/1880 by Dan >> McClenahen I found >> death notices for some Bollinger's although not James. I also found a >> number of notices for the Sutherland Family, although none by the first > name >> of Aramina. If you are interested in these notices please let me know. >> This information was extracted from the Juniata Gazette, the Lewistown >> Gazette and the Lewistown Republican. >> Pat >> >> >> --- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:13 PM >> Subject: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family >> >> >> > Good Day, >> > I am in search of information on the James M. Bolinger/Bollinger and >> > Aramina B. Sunderland Families. Looking for information on their >> > children.old photos .....anything on James and Aramina > Bolinger/Bollinger. >> > Is this couple in your families tree? Would like to hear from you! >> > Thank you >> > Kindly >> > Bea >> > [email protected] >> > >> > >> > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== >> > Mifflin County Historical Society >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > >> >> >> >> ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== >> USGenWeb Mifflin County Genealogy Project >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/ >> Check out the new bibliography page. >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County Historical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Bea - Heard the old addage "There oughta be a law"? I live in Indiana and used to be the head of the Genealogy Department at a small library. I have been following genealogy mailing lists (such as this one for Mifflin County) since about 1997, and the one thing I am sure of is that there must not be any laws concerning this situation. Compounding that situation is what I have termed "The Rush To Publish" syndrome. This concerns those lists that various people and/or associations compile by going to the cemeteries and reading the stones. I have found that in many cases, the stones are read once (somewhere in this string of messages the year 1974 was mentioned, in my county the year seems to have been 1969.) and then never updated. And if that person who read the stone was solely interested in getting his/her name in print as the "author", accuracy was generally not a consideration. I talked the local genealogy society and tried to get each member to "adopt" a local cemetery and then keep that list updated, and to make a diagram of where the graves were actually located in the cemetery. That idea was poo-pooed by the members as unnecessary. I tried to lead by example and so I "adopted" a cemetery. The very first stone (not the 20th or 197th) but the first stone I read was spelled wrong in the list for that cemetery. In Indiana, the maintenance of unclaimed cemeteries is in the hands of each Township Trustee, and most of them consider the upkeep as an unnecessary evil and do as little as possible towards that end. Phil White ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > Pat, > Sorry I was working s girls basket ball game so, I could not get right back > to you! > I own alot of these books myself............I have searched all of them time > and, time again.........I found nothing ! > I am in search of records of Wayne Cemetery Church records...............I > have been to the Cemetery and, found no stones with the names that I am in > search of.......someone HAS to know where there are plots that are emply and > the ones that are in use ! Wouldm't you think? > I have copies of all the pages from all the books.......hubby has bought me > so many books . > Thank you for your offer...... > Bea > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Crimmel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > > > > I have a book called Obituaries of Mifflin County 1822/1880 by Dan > > McClenahen I found > > death notices for some Bollinger's although not James. I also found a > > number of notices for the Sutherland Family, although none by the first > name > > of Aramina. If you are interested in these notices please let me know. > > This information was extracted from the Juniata Gazette, the Lewistown > > Gazette and the Lewistown Republican. > > Pat > > > > > > --- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:13 PM > > Subject: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > > > > > > > Good Day, > > > I am in search of information on the James M. Bolinger/Bollinger and > > > Aramina B. Sunderland Families. Looking for information on their > > > children.old photos .....anything on James and Aramina > Bolinger/Bollinger. > > > Is this couple in your families tree? Would like to hear from you! > > > Thank you > > > Kindly > > > Bea > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > > > Mifflin County Historical Society > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > > USGenWeb Mifflin County Genealogy Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/ > > Check out the new bibliography page. > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County Historical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Yes but--- Is it not better that the list was at least started? These are usually done on a volunteer basis. If there were a law, it would cost someone something, I think. J. Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip White" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family Bea - Heard the old addage "There oughta be a law"? I live in Indiana and -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 1/16/2005

What law are you suggesting or were you just joking? I think this discussion started with not being able to find a cemetery. Then a statement about a wrong date from a tombstone. Hope you contacted the list owner and asked to have it corrected. You could even be a contributor for that cemetery to the USGenWeb archives project where you could submit the data and keep it up to date for new intermets. Newer cemeteries are pretty well documented by the owners but it sure is hard to find some of these OLD ones. Some even being just in a corner of a farm field or worse. And, the old tombstones have deteoriated to the point where not only dates but even names may be next to impossible to read. Our experience has been also that some well documented plot plans leave it difficult to locate some of the graves. Regards, Jesse Davis Our home page: http://www.geocities.com/jespat44/ ***Acts 16:30,31***Ephesians 2:8,9***John 3:16*** -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005

Forgot to add a question: Do you think it just might be that rather than a rush to publish, people are genuinely interested in helping others with genealogical searches? And is it not possible that having the data online is much better than not seeing it at all, even if it does contain errors? It probably is one of the better ways to get this info corrected, in my oldster opinion. Jess Davis -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005