This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AcB.2ACE/1324.4.1 Message Board Post: Donna, Gracies dads name was john gilmore she also had a brother named john too he was shot and killed in the creek. that happened some where called ? bottoms in mo.