This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AcB.2ACE/1324.3.2.1.1 Message Board Post: This is the problem im having rose bell's fathers name was john gillmore, gracie ellen gilmore's fathers name was john gilmore, but gracie had a brother named john and tony and sisters name sylvia and matty one sister was blind and john was killed in a creek in jefferson city mo.