Good Day, I own a copy of the book and, if you can wait unless another offers, I will do a look up after I get home tonight about 9 P.M. .....I'll print out this page and lay it on the book on my desk.....I will get right on it. If another offers and sends you the information you need....please DO let me know! Bea ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:58 AM Subject: [PAMIFFLI] Family Records Before 1800 by Raymond Martin Bell > Family Records Before 1800 by Raymond Martin Bell > > I was wondering if there was anyone who had a copy of the above book? > I have several family names listed in the index: > HENDERSON page 55 (gggg grandfather James Henderson b 1758 ) > CUNNINGHAM page 11 (ggggg grandfather William Cunningham b 1731 > HUNTER page 4 (Robert Hunter b 1758) > MITCHELL page 5,15,22,26,29,44,45,56.(Thomas Mitchell gggg grandfather b > 1748) > > If there are others researching these names please write to me. > > Thanks, > Diana of Borrego Springs, CA > [email protected] > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County Historical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Family Records Before 1800 by Raymond Martin Bell I was wondering if there was anyone who had a copy of the above book? I have several family names listed in the index: HENDERSON page 55 (gggg grandfather James Henderson b 1758 ) CUNNINGHAM page 11 (ggggg grandfather William Cunningham b 1731 HUNTER page 4 (Robert Hunter b 1758) MITCHELL page 5,15,22,26,29,44,45,56.(Thomas Mitchell gggg grandfather b 1748) If there are others researching these names please write to me. Thanks, Diana of Borrego Springs, CA [email protected]

Chris, There is a Sarah Magill whose will was proved 1828. Some other magills mentioned in a later period, as part of a will, no Hugh. Sorry On Jan 17, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Chris and Ed Wieland wrote: > Jane, > > Would you please check the abstracts of wills for Mifflin Co. > 1789-1860 for > Rev. Hugh Magill/McGill? Only if it's not too much bother for you. > He died > 14 September 1805. I would appreciate it very much. > > Thanks!! > > Kind regards, > Chris Magill Wieland > in cold and snowy North Canton OH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Atwell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Everich > > >> Pat, >> >> I have a copy of the abstracts of wills for Mifflin Co. 1789-1860. >> Your name is not listed. >> >> I have found land records in the court house are really helpful. I >> have an ancestor who died in 1832 and the land records reference his >> will of 1830, but we have never found a will. Sometimes they did not >> register them. >> >> Good luck, Jane > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County Historical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > Scanned by Bayou Internet for all known viruses. > http://www.bayou.com >

Chris, I checked my Will book of "Wills of Mifflin County 1789-1860 Volumn 1" by Dan McClenahen and found no Rev. Hugh Magill or McGill. Bea ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Ed Wieland" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Everich > Jane, > > Would you please check the abstracts of wills for Mifflin Co. 1789-1860 for > Rev. Hugh Magill/McGill? Only if it's not too much bother for you. He died > 14 September 1805. I would appreciate it very much. > > Thanks!! > > Kind regards, > Chris Magill Wieland > in cold and snowy North Canton OH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Atwell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Everich > > > > Pat, > > > > I have a copy of the abstracts of wills for Mifflin Co. 1789-1860. > > Your name is not listed. > > > > I have found land records in the court house are really helpful. I > > have an ancestor who died in 1832 and the land records reference his > > will of 1830, but we have never found a will. Sometimes they did not > > register them. > > > > Good luck, Jane > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County Historical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Greetings list, Last week I requested these 2 films (below) from the LDS. I don't even know if my ancestor is on them or if naturalized but I need to start somewhere. If anyone else's ancestor falls into these timeframes, give me the names & I'll see if I can find them also. I have not gotten notice yet that the films have arrived, hopefully within the week. Title: Naturalization records, 1802-1912 Authors: Pennsylvania. Court of Common Pleas (Mifflin County) (Main Author) FHL US/CAN Film #1026313 Naturalization papers 1810-1912 FHL US/CAN Film #1026536 Declarations of intention 1851-1907 Naturalization docket 1802-1903 Andrea

Jane, Would you please check the abstracts of wills for Mifflin Co. 1789-1860 for Rev. Hugh Magill/McGill? Only if it's not too much bother for you. He died 14 September 1805. I would appreciate it very much. Thanks!! Kind regards, Chris Magill Wieland in cold and snowy North Canton OH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Atwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Everich > Pat, > > I have a copy of the abstracts of wills for Mifflin Co. 1789-1860. > Your name is not listed. > > I have found land records in the court house are really helpful. I > have an ancestor who died in 1832 and the land records reference his > will of 1830, but we have never found a will. Sometimes they did not > register them. > > Good luck, Jane

Andrea, It is kind of you to offer lookups in the films you've ordered from LDS. Hope you are not too badly swamped with requests! In 1802 my 4th great grandfather, Johannes ZULAUF, moved into Milford Twp., Mifflin Co. (now Juniata Co.) and lived there until 1838. After you receive the films you ordered and when you have time, would you kindly check for his name in the Mifflin Co. Naturalization docket 1802-1903 and the Naturalization papers 1810-1912? Variant spellings for his surname had included ZULAUFF, SULOUF, and other similar spellings in Berks Co. 1799-1792 and in York Co. 1792-1802. In one tax record his name even appears as ZULAUGH! (I figure only a Scots-Irish neighbor could have given his name that spelling!) I have been unable to find Oath Of Allegiance or Naturalization records in those counties where ZULAUF lived before moving to Mifflin Co. He lived out his life in Mifflin Co. 1802-1838. There, additional variant spellings for his surname included SULIFF and SULOFF. His surname spelling settled down to SULOUFF for the last 35 years of his life in Milford Twp., except that for both his will and estate documents the spelling ZULAUF was used. Best wishes, Rev. Nelson R. Sulouff Admin for two ListServs related to Mifflin Co.: Admin for SULOUFF & SULOFF ListServs and Boards- [email protected] Admin for NOETLING ListServ and Boards- [email protected] Publications about early resident of Mifflin Co.: "Johannes Zulauf, Soldier-Immigrant, Father of Sulouffs and Suloffs In America," (Parts I and II), published by JOURNAL OF THE JOHANNES SCHWALM HISTORICAL ASSN.; Vol 5, No. 4 (1996) and Vol. 6, No. 1 (1997) A SULOUFF AND SULOFF FAMILY HISTORY (801 pp., 174 graphics, over 3350 indexed names, 680 source footnotes). Copyrighted 2001-2003, Library of Congress call number CS71.Z8662001 Website for earliest history of the SULOUFF family: http://www.apexsystems.net/users/Nelson/ ////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrea Welter To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: [PAMIFFLI] Naturalization LDS films incoming Greetings list, Last week I requested these 2 films (below) from the LDS. I don't even know if my ancestor is on them or if naturalized but I need to start somewhere. If anyone else's ancestor falls into these timeframes, give me the names & I'll see if I can find them also. I have not gotten notice yet that the films have arrived, hopefully within the week. Title: Naturalization records, 1802-1912 Authors: Pennsylvania. Court of Common Pleas (Mifflin County) (Main Author) FHL US/CAN Film #1026313 Naturalization papers 1810-1912 FHL US/CAN Film #1026536 Declarations of intention 1851-1907 Naturalization docket 1802-1903 Andrea

Good Day, Is there anyone on this mailing list that knows who I could talk to or, where to go to find a burial list for the 1. Wayne Church Cemetery, Wayne Township, Mifflin County, Pennsylvania 2. Ryde Cemetery, Ryde, Mifflin County,Pennsylvania. (former McKinstry Cemetery) . I own copies of both Cemetery books. AND, I have at least nine people that we can not find in these Cemeteries per no grave markers. I am going by their obits and or death certificates as well as family members who are now deceased as to where my family members are buried. Can anyone on this list help???? Kindly, Bea [email protected]

Pat, Did you look at David Samuelsen's will indexes at http://www.sampubco.com/wills/oh/ohio.htm It probably would be a good idea to check other PA counties, too. That url is http://www.sampubco.com/wills/pa/pennsylvania.htm Not all county indices are available there, but it's nice to be able to check what IS available. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat D" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:25 AM Subject: [PAMIFFLI] Everich Johan Everich(Everidge) and his wife Anna Marie are shown on the Armargh Twp, Mifflin Co census for the year 1820 with the following children. They immigrated about 1805 and are on the Philadelphia census for 1810. 1810-1820 census: 1-JOHAN EVERICH b: abt 1775 in Dillsum, Issenburg sp-ANNA MARIA ACHTZEHTERIN b: abt 1781 in Dillsum, Issenburg m: bef 1805 . . .2-JACOB EVERICH b: abt 1805/6 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co, PA . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1810 (under 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1810 (under 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1810 (under 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1820 (0 to 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1820 (0 to 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1820 (0 to 10) By the 1830 census, Johan (John) is not listed. Assuming he died between 1820-1830, what are the chances of a will or any documentation being located for him in Mifflin Co? Jacob Everich is listed on the 1830-1840-1850 census for Lewistown. In 1860, he is listed in Philadelphia. By 1870-1880 he and his family had migrated to Ohio. Any suggestions/help will be greatly appreciated. Pat Dailey %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% How Many Doubts Does It Take to Make a Certainty? As Many As the Heart Can Endure! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Type unsubscribe in the body of the message. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Judy, I have found one thing that I am SURE is true..........alot of these folks do not want to be bothered so, I have offered to pay one or two of them and, they could NOT wait to meet my husband and I to show us what we wanted to know! My Mother has a sister that died when she was very young...........Mother wanted to know what plot she was buried in and where exactly she was .......so, I sent for her death certificate ......that told me her death date and where she was buried............after hubby and I first checked out the cemetery and found nothing..........we asked a few other folks that happened to be in the cemetery if they could tell us who took care of it or if they knew who had a map of the plots...this is where the paying part came in.......(hubby was very mad to say the least that, there are people like that)....but, before my Mother died, she knew where her sister was buried and, exactly where her grave was.........you see Mother was just a child herself when her sister died and for years she looked...............Mother died two years ago and, I helped give her that.She also got to see photo's of family members she heard of but, never seen......I was very happy that I could give her that! Oh, how I love genealogy . Judy, thank you very much for all the work you do......and, I DO know you do alot.............from me to you........you are APPRECIATED ! Bea ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Banja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Cemetery Records ! > Hi again Bea, > > I've been browsing around the net looking at PA funeral and cemetery > regulations and found this: > http://members.aol.com/Judiciary/9.html > > I do know that all active cemeteries are required to keep a register, card > file or database of burials. They have a plot map and a record of who is > buried in each plot. Take a look at the map of Oakridge: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/blair/1picts/cemeteries/oakridge/oakrid ge-map.jpg > You can see that each section and lot are coded, and the sexton > (gravedigger) of the cemetery has those records available when there is a > new interment scheduled. At each cemetery there are regulations about how > many adults may be buried in a single lot. In many cemeteries, provision is > made for burials at 6' and 12'. > > In the specific case of Wayne cemetery, have you called the church and asked > about their records? It may be the case that the MCHS Cemeteries of Mifflin > County book was prepared from a reading of the extant tombstones and not > from the records kept by the Methodist church. I don't own the book, so I > don't know if the preface lists the sources used in preparation of the book. > Perhaps somebody else who owns the book could check it for that information. > > Not sure I've answered your question or even that there's a definitive > answer to your question. > > Judy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 1:07 AM > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Cemetery Records ! > > > Judy, > I am in speaking of many many cemeteries..........I have searched my books > through and through...........my pet gripe is this...... > When one does not hae a grave marker on their grave (for many reasons) how > can you find them? I have been told bt several cemeteries that there is not > a record kept or they can not find where one is buried.............NOW, how > do they know where to bury the ones that pass away and , where not to bury > them..... Someone has to know what plots are occupied and which are > not........wouldn't you think ? I am speaking about all cemeteries........no > one seems to be able to answer this.......maybe I am not asking it in the > right manner??? > Bea > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County RootsWeb Resources > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/PA/Mifflin/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Pat, I have a copy of the abstracts of wills for Mifflin Co. 1789-1860. Your name is not listed. I have found land records in the court house are really helpful. I have an ancestor who died in 1832 and the land records reference his will of 1830, but we have never found a will. Sometimes they did not register them. Good luck, Jane On Jan 16, 2005, at 6:25 AM, Pat D wrote: > Johan Everich(Everidge) and his wife Anna Marie are shown on the > Armargh Twp, Mifflin Co census for the year 1820 with the following > children. They immigrated about 1805 and are on the Philadelphia > census for 1810. > 1810-1820 census: > 1-JOHAN EVERICH > b: abt 1775 in Dillsum, Issenburg > sp-ANNA MARIA ACHTZEHTERIN > b: abt 1781 in Dillsum, Issenburg > m: bef 1805 > . . .2-JACOB EVERICH > b: abt 1805/6 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co, PA > . . .2-Unknown EVERICH > b: bef 1810 (under 10) > . . .2-Unknown EVERICH > b: bef 1810 (under 10) > . . .2-Unknown EVERICH > b: bef 1810 (under 10) > . . .2-Unknown EVERICH > b: bef 1820 (0 to 10) > . . .2-Unknown EVERICH > b: bef 1820 (0 to 10) > . . .2-Unknown EVERICH > b: bef 1820 (0 to 10) > > By the 1830 census, Johan (John) is not listed. Assuming he died > between 1820-1830, what are the chances of a will or any documentation > being located for him in Mifflin Co? > > Jacob Everich is listed on the 1830-1840-1850 census for Lewistown. > In 1860, he is listed in Philadelphia. By 1870-1880 he and his family > had migrated to Ohio. > > Any suggestions/help will be greatly appreciated. > > Pat Dailey > > > > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > How Many Doubts Does It Take to > Make a Certainty? > As Many As the Heart Can > Endure! > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, email > [email protected] > Type unsubscribe in the body of the message. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? > sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > Scanned by Bayou Internet for all known viruses. > http://www.bayou.com >

Johan Everich(Everidge) and his wife Anna Marie are shown on the Armargh Twp, Mifflin Co census for the year 1820 with the following children. They immigrated about 1805 and are on the Philadelphia census for 1810. 1810-1820 census: 1-JOHAN EVERICH b: abt 1775 in Dillsum, Issenburg sp-ANNA MARIA ACHTZEHTERIN b: abt 1781 in Dillsum, Issenburg m: bef 1805 . . .2-JACOB EVERICH b: abt 1805/6 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co, PA . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1810 (under 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1810 (under 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1810 (under 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1820 (0 to 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1820 (0 to 10) . . .2-Unknown EVERICH b: bef 1820 (0 to 10) By the 1830 census, Johan (John) is not listed. Assuming he died between 1820-1830, what are the chances of a will or any documentation being located for him in Mifflin Co? Jacob Everich is listed on the 1830-1840-1850 census for Lewistown. In 1860, he is listed in Philadelphia. By 1870-1880 he and his family had migrated to Ohio. Any suggestions/help will be greatly appreciated. Pat Dailey %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% How Many Doubts Does It Take to Make a Certainty? As Many As the Heart Can Endure! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Hi again Bea, I've been browsing around the net looking at PA funeral and cemetery regulations and found this: http://members.aol.com/Judiciary/9.html I do know that all active cemeteries are required to keep a register, card file or database of burials. They have a plot map and a record of who is buried in each plot. Take a look at the map of Oakridge: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/blair/1picts/cemeteries/oakridge/oakridge-map.jpg You can see that each section and lot are coded, and the sexton (gravedigger) of the cemetery has those records available when there is a new interment scheduled. At each cemetery there are regulations about how many adults may be buried in a single lot. In many cemeteries, provision is made for burials at 6' and 12'. In the specific case of Wayne cemetery, have you called the church and asked about their records? It may be the case that the MCHS Cemeteries of Mifflin County book was prepared from a reading of the extant tombstones and not from the records kept by the Methodist church. I don't own the book, so I don't know if the preface lists the sources used in preparation of the book. Perhaps somebody else who owns the book could check it for that information. Not sure I've answered your question or even that there's a definitive answer to your question. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 1:07 AM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Cemetery Records ! Judy, I am in speaking of many many cemeteries..........I have searched my books through and through...........my pet gripe is this...... When one does not hae a grave marker on their grave (for many reasons) how can you find them? I have been told bt several cemeteries that there is not a record kept or they can not find where one is buried.............NOW, how do they know where to bury the ones that pass away and , where not to bury them..... Someone has to know what plots are occupied and which are not........wouldn't you think ? I am speaking about all cemeteries........no one seems to be able to answer this.......maybe I am not asking it in the right manner??? Bea

Bea-- The fact is, in many, many cases, cemeteries a long time ago didn't keep records, the records have been lost, or the records have been destroyed by fire, flood, etc., etc. It's simply a reality. Here's how they know if someone is buried there (or remains are present): they can probe a plot with a rod, or (the more technical solution) do ground-penetrating radar to show if the ground has been disturbed. An old city-owned and -maintained cemetery in my county has recently done the latter to verify which plots are available for sale. It knew its records were in poor shape. And in Teller County, the two largest cemeteries aren't owned by anyone or any entity. If you want to bury someone, you have a hole dug and bury him. No plots are sold. I assume they look for non-depressed ground and do a probe when deciding where to bury someone. Linda Vixie PPGS Cemetery Project Chair Colorado Springs > -----Original Message----- > From: Bea Rutherford [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 11:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Cemetery Records ! > > > Judy, > I am in speaking of many many cemeteries..........I have searched my books > through and through...........my pet gripe is this...... > When one does not hae a grave marker on their grave (for many reasons) how > can you find them? I have been told bt several cemeteries that > there is not > a record kept or they can not find where one is > buried.............NOW, how > do they know where to bury the ones that pass away and , where > not to bury > them..... Someone has to know what plots are occupied and which are > not........wouldn't you think ? I am speaking about all > cemeteries........no > one seems to be able to answer this.......maybe I am not asking it in the > right manner??? > Bea > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Banja" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Cemetery Records ! > > > > Hi Bea, > > > > There are > > > > church cemeteries > > private cemeteries (farm cemeteries would come under this heading, I > > suppose) > > county cemeteries > > nonprofit cemetery associations > > cemeteries run as a business (can be private or corporate) > > > > . . . did I miss any, folks? > > > > Knowing what kind of cemetery you're looking at would be a good > first step > > in figuring out who has the records. I'm not sure what each > state's laws > > are or were governing interments - some states probably still have no > permit > > requirements, or even require interment licenses or interment in a > licensed > > cemetery. The Q & A page for the Pennsylvania Cemetery Funeral > Association > > website is at > > http://pcfaonline.com/commonquestionsC.shtml and may answer some of your > > questions. > > > > Mifflin county cemeteries are listed here: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/cemeteries.html > > The list was compiled by the previous Mifflin county USGenWeb county > > coordinators, and with permission of the Mifflin County Historical > Society, > > the pages of their book, Mifflin County Cemeteries, have been linked on > this > > page. The index itself is at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/mchs-cems.html > > > > Also check the cemetery transcription page here: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/mifflin/cemet.htm > > > > My hope is that lots of folks who live in Mifflin county got digital > cameras > > for Christmas and will be willing to go out and photograph > tombstones when > > spring comes, so we can have a Mifflin Archives tombstone photo project > like > > Blair Archives'. Ed Bratton has already contributed a number > of cemetery > > photos, as have several other folks in the past. (I live over 700 miles > > away from Mifflin county, so I doubt I'll be able to participate in a > > Mifflin county tombstone photography project.) > > > > Two wonderful online cemetery projects online are > > http://interment.net/ > > and > > http://findagrave.com/ > > > > If you do not see what you need any of these places, check the > MCHS folks > > to see if they can advise you. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > > > Anybody who can add to this information, please do! > > > > Judy Banja > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:34 PM > > Subject: [PAMIFFLI] Cemetery Records ! > > > > > > Good Day, > > > > By ANY chance does anyone know where one can go to find records of > who/whom > > is buried and where one is buried in a cemetery when there are > no markers? > > Does each cemetery keep records? > > Who is in charge of the cemeteries? Doesn't someone somewhere > need to know > > who is buried where in a cemetery . How do they know when there are no > > listings (so I am told) what plots are empty and, what ones > are in use? ( > > not a very nice way to word it but, trying to get information on these > > cemeteries ) > > Does the county have records.........can these plots without markers be > sold > > again and re - used ? > > Why shouldn't the Church's....and or other Cemeteries be made to have > > records for who is buried where ? > > Why doesn't each county keep records ? > > It is hard for me to believe that one goes to a Cemetery and > ask's where a > > certian person is buried that the cemeteries do not have maps with the > plot > > numbers and, whom is buried where ......WHO do you ask? WHERE do you get > > this information? > > > > Thank you kindly for your time ! > > > > Sincerely, > > Bea > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > > Mifflin County USGenWeb Archives > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/mifflin/ > > Want to see more info online? Please share your family data. > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > > Mifflin County USGenWeb Archives > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/mifflin/ > > Want to see more info online? Please share your family data. > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Pat, You tried ..that's what counts ! Thank you very much for that. Bea ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Crimmel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > Bea, > Have you tried checking with the library in Lewistown? They may have some > idea in which direction to point you in order to find these records. You > also might try calling City Hall. The sad thing is sometimes those old > records are just lost. We have an old cemetery in our area that has a lot > of unmarked graves and those records have been lost for years. > > I'm sorry I don't live in that area of the country so I can't be of much > help. > Pat > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > > > > Pat, > > Sorry I was working s girls basket ball game so, I could not get right > > back > > to you! > > I own alot of these books myself............I have searched all of them > > time > > and, time again.........I found nothing ! > > I am in search of records of Wayne Cemetery Church records...............I > > have been to the Cemetery and, found no stones with the names that I am in > > search of.......someone HAS to know where there are plots that are emply > > and > > the ones that are in use ! Wouldm't you think? > > I have copies of all the pages from all the books.......hubby has bought > > me > > so many books . > > Thank you for your offer...... > > Bea > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pat Crimmel" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > > > > > >> I have a book called Obituaries of Mifflin County 1822/1880 by Dan > >> McClenahen I found > >> death notices for some Bollinger's although not James. I also found a > >> number of notices for the Sutherland Family, although none by the first > > name > >> of Aramina. If you are interested in these notices please let me know. > >> This information was extracted from the Juniata Gazette, the Lewistown > >> Gazette and the Lewistown Republican. > >> Pat > >> > >> > >> --- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:13 PM > >> Subject: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > >> > >> > >> > Good Day, > >> > I am in search of information on the James M. Bolinger/Bollinger and > >> > Aramina B. Sunderland Families. Looking for information on their > >> > children.old photos .....anything on James and Aramina > > Bolinger/Bollinger. > >> > Is this couple in your families tree? Would like to hear from you! > >> > Thank you > >> > Kindly > >> > Bea > >> > [email protected] > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > >> > Mifflin County Historical Society > >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > >> > > >> > ============================== > >> > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >> > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >> > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > >> USGenWeb Mifflin County Genealogy Project > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/ > >> Check out the new bibliography page. > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > > Mifflin County Historical Society > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, email > [email protected] > Type unsubscribe in the body of the message. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Judy, I am in speaking of many many cemeteries..........I have searched my books through and through...........my pet gripe is this...... When one does not hae a grave marker on their grave (for many reasons) how can you find them? I have been told bt several cemeteries that there is not a record kept or they can not find where one is buried.............NOW, how do they know where to bury the ones that pass away and , where not to bury them..... Someone has to know what plots are occupied and which are not........wouldn't you think ? I am speaking about all cemeteries........no one seems to be able to answer this.......maybe I am not asking it in the right manner??? Bea ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Banja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Cemetery Records ! > Hi Bea, > > There are > > church cemeteries > private cemeteries (farm cemeteries would come under this heading, I > suppose) > county cemeteries > nonprofit cemetery associations > cemeteries run as a business (can be private or corporate) > > . . . did I miss any, folks? > > Knowing what kind of cemetery you're looking at would be a good first step > in figuring out who has the records. I'm not sure what each state's laws > are or were governing interments - some states probably still have no permit > requirements, or even require interment licenses or interment in a licensed > cemetery. The Q & A page for the Pennsylvania Cemetery Funeral Association > website is at > http://pcfaonline.com/commonquestionsC.shtml and may answer some of your > questions. > > Mifflin county cemeteries are listed here: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/cemeteries.html > The list was compiled by the previous Mifflin county USGenWeb county > coordinators, and with permission of the Mifflin County Historical Society, > the pages of their book, Mifflin County Cemeteries, have been linked on this > page. The index itself is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/mchs-cems.html > > Also check the cemetery transcription page here: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/mifflin/cemet.htm > > My hope is that lots of folks who live in Mifflin county got digital cameras > for Christmas and will be willing to go out and photograph tombstones when > spring comes, so we can have a Mifflin Archives tombstone photo project like > Blair Archives'. Ed Bratton has already contributed a number of cemetery > photos, as have several other folks in the past. (I live over 700 miles > away from Mifflin county, so I doubt I'll be able to participate in a > Mifflin county tombstone photography project.) > > Two wonderful online cemetery projects online are > http://interment.net/ > and > http://findagrave.com/ > > If you do not see what you need any of these places, check the MCHS folks > to see if they can advise you. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > Anybody who can add to this information, please do! > > Judy Banja > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:34 PM > Subject: [PAMIFFLI] Cemetery Records ! > > > Good Day, > > By ANY chance does anyone know where one can go to find records of who/whom > is buried and where one is buried in a cemetery when there are no markers? > Does each cemetery keep records? > Who is in charge of the cemeteries? Doesn't someone somewhere need to know > who is buried where in a cemetery . How do they know when there are no > listings (so I am told) what plots are empty and, what ones are in use? ( > not a very nice way to word it but, trying to get information on these > cemeteries ) > Does the county have records.........can these plots without markers be sold > again and re - used ? > Why shouldn't the Church's....and or other Cemeteries be made to have > records for who is buried where ? > Why doesn't each county keep records ? > It is hard for me to believe that one goes to a Cemetery and ask's where a > certian person is buried that the cemeteries do not have maps with the plot > numbers and, whom is buried where ......WHO do you ask? WHERE do you get > this information? > > Thank you kindly for your time ! > > Sincerely, > Bea > [email protected] > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County USGenWeb Archives > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/mifflin/ > Want to see more info online? Please share your family data. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County USGenWeb Archives > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/mifflin/ > Want to see more info online? Please share your family data. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Pat, Sorry I was working s girls basket ball game so, I could not get right back to you! I own alot of these books myself............I have searched all of them time and, time again.........I found nothing ! I am in search of records of Wayne Cemetery Church records...............I have been to the Cemetery and, found no stones with the names that I am in search of.......someone HAS to know where there are plots that are emply and the ones that are in use ! Wouldm't you think? I have copies of all the pages from all the books.......hubby has bought me so many books . Thank you for your offer...... Bea ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Crimmel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > I have a book called Obituaries of Mifflin County 1822/1880 by Dan > McClenahen I found > death notices for some Bollinger's although not James. I also found a > number of notices for the Sutherland Family, although none by the first name > of Aramina. If you are interested in these notices please let me know. > This information was extracted from the Juniata Gazette, the Lewistown > Gazette and the Lewistown Republican. > Pat > > > --- Original Message ----- > From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:13 PM > Subject: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > > > > Good Day, > > I am in search of information on the James M. Bolinger/Bollinger and > > Aramina B. Sunderland Families. Looking for information on their > > children.old photos .....anything on James and Aramina Bolinger/Bollinger. > > Is this couple in your families tree? Would like to hear from you! > > Thank you > > Kindly > > Bea > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > > Mifflin County Historical Society > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Mifflin County Genealogy Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/ > Check out the new bibliography page. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Bea, Have you tried checking with the library in Lewistown? They may have some idea in which direction to point you in order to find these records. You also might try calling City Hall. The sad thing is sometimes those old records are just lost. We have an old cemetery in our area that has a lot of unmarked graves and those records have been lost for years. I'm sorry I don't live in that area of the country so I can't be of much help. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > Pat, > Sorry I was working s girls basket ball game so, I could not get right > back > to you! > I own alot of these books myself............I have searched all of them > time > and, time again.........I found nothing ! > I am in search of records of Wayne Cemetery Church records...............I > have been to the Cemetery and, found no stones with the names that I am in > search of.......someone HAS to know where there are plots that are emply > and > the ones that are in use ! Wouldm't you think? > I have copies of all the pages from all the books.......hubby has bought > me > so many books . > Thank you for your offer...... > Bea > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Crimmel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > > >> I have a book called Obituaries of Mifflin County 1822/1880 by Dan >> McClenahen I found >> death notices for some Bollinger's although not James. I also found a >> number of notices for the Sutherland Family, although none by the first > name >> of Aramina. If you are interested in these notices please let me know. >> This information was extracted from the Juniata Gazette, the Lewistown >> Gazette and the Lewistown Republican. >> Pat >> >> >> --- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:13 PM >> Subject: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family >> >> >> > Good Day, >> > I am in search of information on the James M. Bolinger/Bollinger and >> > Aramina B. Sunderland Families. Looking for information on their >> > children.old photos .....anything on James and Aramina > Bolinger/Bollinger. >> > Is this couple in your families tree? Would like to hear from you! >> > Thank you >> > Kindly >> > Bea >> > [email protected] >> > >> > >> > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== >> > Mifflin County Historical Society >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > >> >> >> >> ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== >> USGenWeb Mifflin County Genealogy Project >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamiffli/ >> Check out the new bibliography page. >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County Historical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

I have a book called Obituaries of Mifflin County 1822/1880 by Dan McClenahen I found death notices for some Bollinger's although not James. I also found a number of notices for the Sutherland Family, although none by the first name of Aramina. If you are interested in these notices please let me know. This information was extracted from the Juniata Gazette, the Lewistown Gazette and the Lewistown Republican. Pat --- Original Message ----- From: "Bea Rutherford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:13 PM Subject: [PAMIFFLI] James M. Bolinger Family > Good Day, > I am in search of information on the James M. Bolinger/Bollinger and > Aramina B. Sunderland Families. Looking for information on their > children.old photos .....anything on James and Aramina Bolinger/Bollinger. > Is this couple in your families tree? Would like to hear from you! > Thank you > Kindly > Bea > [email protected] > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > Mifflin County Historical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamchs/home.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

In 1976 there was a book (two vols.- 1500+pages) published listing persons buried in each of the cemeteries in Mifflin County, the location of the cemetery and who is the caretaker. I found the book at the National Genealogical Society library, which has now moved to St. Louis. I feel certain that there must be a copy in the Mifflin County Historical Society library in Lewistown. Because of copyright laws and the no. of pages, I did not make a copy of the book. The Genealogy Nut