Terry, Thanks so much for the information on the Clifford/Reed family, I had somne but not nearly as much as you sent me, particularly the census readings. I also have information on a John Clifford in Erie, PA, taken from the City Directories 1853-1865. I had not been able to tie him in but will check on this again. Possibly he was a brother of Margaret's husband since her married name was Clifford and her maiden name was Evans. I also have a death certificate for Katherine Pearl Torrance who died 23 Oct 1942 at age 66y11m19d. It lists her born in Erie; parents Simon Reed born in Renova, PA?, and mother Lydia Starks b Madison, Ohio. On all census I have seen the Reed children were listed as being born in NY but the grgrandchildren in the Braniff/Reed family all say it should be PA. Census readings seem to bear out the NY births. Husband of Katherine is Claude Torrance and daughter, Grace T. Sell, was informant and Katherine lived at 631 E. 12th St. All of your information clears this death certificate up for me. Thanks again for your help. Peggy McAndrew