Hi Phyllis, My name is Kirstin Armstrong, I live in VA, and am Wayne Lightner's second cousin through the Lightners. I have a family tree with some of the Lightner info. From digging around, I've learned that Samuel Lightner was married twice and had something like 14 children. (If you want more on this I'll have to dig around in my files to find the precise details.) Cynthia was his 2nd marriage and from my estimates was about half his age when they married. It also shows your Della marrying a "Call McQuilliams," which I suppose is either a typo or bad spelling. According to my records, Cynthia's father was John Zeigler--I don't have any additional info. on him, although he married Eliza Rose, daughter of Jacob Rose and Rebecca Clark Rose. Jacob's father is one Andrew Rose b. Phila. (1754-1815) who allegedly helped serve the Revolutionaries in some way and is listed in the DAR records. I hope all this helps! Kirstin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis M. McWilliams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:38 AM Subject: [PAMERCER] Uber & Ziegler families in Mercer C. > Hi Helen B. of Mercer. I live in California. My husband is related to many Mercer Co. families as most of his lines go back to early 1800s. His father Homer McWilliams and mother Maria (Pearson) meet with mother Magdaline of Simon and Abraham Uber brothers. Cynthia Zeigler (w#2) m. Samuel Lightner (I have two different names for Cynthia's father) Cynthia and Sam's daughter Della, which Mercer Co. has no records of her death (1927) tho. she died at her daughter's house in Grove City, is my husband's grandmother. Lightner's were of Shaver's Creek. I am collecting names from everywhere but only trying to document my main lines. Phyllis Mock McWilliams > > > > ==== PAMERCER Mailing List ==== > Researching a reverend? Check out our Men of the Cloth section ... preachers, pastors, priests and other clergy in Western Pennsylvania... http://www.rootsweb.com/~papastor >