I would like to know also. How old is St Joseph's? Carrie in CA -------Original Message------- From: cheryl <cmotherofpirl@yahoo.com> Sent: 02/25/03 06:54 AM To: PAMCKEESPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAMcK'sport] Fairview Cemetery > > St. Martins number is (412) 672-9763 Richard Pollard <rvpollard@shaw.ca> wrote:Does any one know how to obtain records for the other side of the road ? The Catholics side ? St Joseph's , I have ancestors , Regensburgers & Hoff's that may be there as I tried the other catholic cemetery when I was in McKeesport in 2000 and only found one head stone for them . Boy , I knew I should have walked over there it just looked so over grown ...... I have contacted the McKeesport Haritage society for information in regards to researching long distance . The last time I contacted them they were unable to send a document viva e-mail [ no scaner ] , or do a color photo copy nor did they accept VISA or MasterCard . This was about two years ago , I wander if they are still in the same state of technolagy ?? Rick ==== PAMCKEESPORT Mailing List ==== NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this list! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times of those we seek goes, but MUST be kept within the List's *Golden Rule*. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: <a target=_blank href="http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237">http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237</a> Let nothing trouble you,let nothing frighten you, everything passes, God never changes, God is enough! St. Theresa of Jesus --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ==== PAMCKEESPORT Mailing List ==== ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: <a target=_blank href="http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237">http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237</a> >

Old St. Josephs is the original Catholic cemetery in McKeesport.It adjoined Fairview. Both cemeteries were altered when the city put Coursin St right down the middile between them. Because they were so small two more cemeteries were eventually opened: McKeesport-Versailles Cemetery, and New St Josephs out on Route 30. Cheryl Carrie Hogue <cchoguefam@earthlink.net> wrote:I would like to know also. How old is St Joseph's? Carrie in CA -------Original Message------- From: cheryl Sent: 02/25/03 06:54 AM To: PAMCKEESPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAMcK'sport] Fairview Cemetery > > St. Martins number is (412) 672-9763 Richard Pollard wrote:Does any one know how to obtain records for the other side of the road ? The Catholics side ? St Joseph's , I have ancestors , Regensburgers & Hoff's that may be there as I tried the other catholic cemetery when I was in McKeesport in 2000 and only found one head stone for them . Boy , I knew I should have walked over there it just looked so over grown ...... I have contacted the McKeesport Haritage society for information in regards to researching long distance . The last time I contacted them they were unable to send a document viva e-mail [ no scaner ] , or do a color photo copy nor did they accept VISA or MasterCard . This was about two years ago , I wander if they are still in the same state of technolagy ?? Rick ==== PAMCKEESPORT Mailing List ==== NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this list! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times of those we seek goes, but MUST be kept within the List's *Golden Rule*. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: href="http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237">http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Let nothing trouble you,let nothing frighten you, everything passes, God never changes, God is enough! St. Theresa of Jesus --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ==== PAMCKEESPORT Mailing List ==== ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: href="http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237">http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== PAMCKEESPORT Mailing List ==== ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Let nothing trouble you,let nothing frighten you, everything passes, God never changes, God is enough! St. Theresa of Jesus --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4E74FF77C44CCCA8E9E52AAF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My father's half-brother was buried in St. Joseph's in 1895 -- so it is at least that old and probably as old as the 1870s or older. Fairview is much older. I noticed an earlier posting by the Coyan family. I did some research on the Coyan graves a few years ago and they go back to the 1840s which predates McKeesport-Versailles by a decade; the Coyan graves were moved from Fairview to McK-Ver. in the 1890s. The dividing line between the Fairview & St. Joseph's cemeteries is not Coursin Street, as St. Joseph's is bisected by Coursin and lies on both sides of the road. The division between Fairview and the southern section of St. Joseph's is not readily apparent during this time of the year, however, you can tell in Summer. Fairview is mowed on a regular basis while St. Joseph's is not. It is the southern section of St. Joseph's which has been referred to as the overgrown cemetery. I have the understanding that St. Joseph's was replaced by the New St. Joseph's Cemetery (next to Grandview on Rt. 30) in East McKeesport/North Versailles. I'm not sure where I read this, but if it is true, New St. Joseph's may have some records. As far as Fairview's caretaker, his records only consist of what is written on the stones and he does not have complete burial files at the location (as they do at McKeesport-Versailles and other cemeteries in the area). I remember as a kid, my step-father (born 1904) told me stories about the widening (and probably the bricking) of Coursin Street. Because the wider street cut into cemetery property, some graves had to be relocated and reinterred. During the time of construction and relocation, a heavy rainstorm hit the area. The storm caused several recently exhumed coffins to float down Coursin Street. I'm not sure when this happened, but I always thought that it was before 1920. Jim Owston -- James M. Owston, EdS, ABD Assistant VP for On-line Curriculum Development Mountain State University PO Box 9003 Beckley, WV 25802-9003 http://www.MountainState.edu 304.929.1356 800.766.6067, x1356 --------------4E74FF77C44CCCA8E9E52AAF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="jowston.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for James M. Owston Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jowston.vcf" begin:vcard n:Owston;James M. tel;work:304.929.1356 or 800.766.6067 ext. 1356 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:jowston@mountainstate.edu fn:James M. Owston end:vcard --------------4E74FF77C44CCCA8E9E52AAF--

Dear James, The New St. Joseph's Cemetery does not have records for the Old St. Joseph's Cemetery but if you do ever need anything from New St. Joseph's the staff there is very nice to you. I might add that the earliest cemetery in McKeesport appears to be the Old Ninth St. Cemetery. All those graves were re-interred when the street was widened etc. That graveyard was so full no more burials could be entered & that's why McKeesport/Versailles Cem. came in to being. All, or most of, the graves were re-interred to McK/Vers. Cem. Regards, Ellen (ETHS)