Can anyone on the list provide any informtion on the existence of the Bon Air Sanitorium circa 1910? I belive it was located in Foster Township, but not sure. Thanks for any assistance.

am looking for info on both the Neer and crooks families of Bradford and McKean county thank you

Hello, once again. Here are two more photo postcards I came across. If there are any descendants who would like to have them just send me an email. First is a photo postcard of Margaret Foot of Shinglehouse. Postcard is not used, no date. Just a photo of the child (baby) with the name on the back. It probably dates to 1908-1912. The second card is of two women - Bell Kinner and Mina Wheaton. Postcard not used, no date, just the names on the front. Probably from the 1908-1912 time frame. These cards come from a collection of about 2500 from the McKean/Potter/Allegany/Cattaraugus area, from 1905 and later, so I presume that those pictured on the cards have some connection to that area. Any descendant wishing to have these cards may email me. I would like to see them go to a good home. There is no charge. Maureen M. Lee

Greetings, List Members. I am helping a cousin dispose of about 2500 postcards, most of which are from the 1905-1912 time frame. Today I came across four postcards that I am hoping to give to a descendant of those mentioned. The first is a postcard and the front of the card only has a photo of a woman. The back of the card, handwritten, reads: Euretta Coon, Died July 15th, 1909. The card is addressed to George Kenyon & wife of Shinglehouse (Potter County; Rev. Kenyon was a Seventh Day Baptist minister in that area of Potter County and into Allegany County, NY). The card has not been postally used, so there is no date, but as it is written that Euretta died 1909 I believe the card to be in that time frame. Also, the style of dress and hair fit that time period. The second card is a birth announcement. The front has a basket of flowers and reads: Congratulations are in order for we have a new star-boarder, Came by Dad Stork's Parcel Post Happy we to be its host. The handwritten name appears to be Analee Geneva, October 18th, Weight 10 lbs. The card is postally used, but the ink on the postmark is smeared so I cannot make it out, maybe 1920? The card is from Mr. and Mrs. Charles Saunders of Richburg, NY and was sent to Mrs. Floyd Reed of Shinglehouse, PA. This postcard was postmarked at Bolivar, NY. The third & fourth cards are also birth announcements, for the same baby, and both cards picture a stork carrying a baby. The cards have essentially the same info, but different art work and different wording. The first card has "A Welcome Gift" On April 17 at 7 a.m. a baby Whose name is to be Crandall William Was presented to Mr. and Mrs. E. B. Cowles Weight 9 lbs. Card has no writing on the back, so do not know the year. The second card says "Good News" The Stork has delivered to Mr. and Mrs. E. B. Cowles a brand new Boy baby. Birthday Apr 17 Hour 7 a.m. Weight 9 lbs. Name Crandall William. I would like to give these cards to a DESCENDANT, not somebody who collects turn-of-the-century postcards announcing birth and deaths. Please email me if you are interested. The cards are all in fantastic condition. Maureen Lee

I have some fire department items on the McKean PAGenweb site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ They are listed under Bradford. The second link for the fire department has quite a bit of information. There is a W.Woodruff in the POTTER HOSE 1891 listed with picture. Sheila ,_, (O,O) ( ) --"-"--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheila's Violin Corner http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/ Sligo County Ireland http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ Ashland County OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ Venango County PA http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ McKean County PA http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/

Hi Natalie Here is your William Woodworth in the Bradford 1898 City Directory: Woodworth Dellie, wid William, res 14 Bank St Woodworth William, lab, boards at 12 1/2 Bushnell Would Dellie be his mother? Here he is in the 1900 Census, listed as single born in NY... 1900 Census / PA / McKean / Other Townships / [Bradford City] ED # 95 [p 1 of 44 at ancestry.com] NARA: Image #142, Roll T623-1439, line 47 living in a boarding house at 38 Pearl Street, Bradford PA: WOODWARD, William MW 33 b May 1867 Single b NY parents both b NY general laborer 0 months out of work If you don't have access to the Census online, I'd be happy to look for him & his family in other years. Did you find him on the 1880 Census--it's free online? Bradford has a Landmark Society which can be accessed online (limited info) and you can call them M-W-F between 11am and 2pm; they are very helpful and will look things up for you. Sally Costik, their curator, has written books about various events in Bradford and there are pictures of volunteer fireman (1890s) in the first "Around Bradford" book. Although the firemen are not identified by name, you may be able to pick out your William if he is in one of them. I would be happy to scan and send a couple of the pages which cover your timespan if you are interested. You asked about obituaries and they are available on microfilm from the Bradford Public Library if you know the approx date it would have been published. The Landmark Society has an index which contains many of the obits that were listed in the Bradford Era... You might want to call them (Landmark Soc) for a lookup. They also have the Bradford City Directories which were published from about 1875 until sometime in the 1970s (generally every 2 years, altho' there are some years skipped during the wars or the depression). http://www.bradfordlandmark.org/ Bradford Landmark Society 45 E Corydon Street Bradford PA 16701 phone: 814-362-3906 If I can be of further help, let me know. Although I live in southwestern WV, I am currently working on families and businesses in Bradford after 1868. Katie

Looking for info on William Woodworth dob May 1867 McKean Cty.DOD March 3 or 13 1903 in Bradford Pa as a result of work related accident. Married to Mary Eliza (Minnie) Jones of Wellsville NY. He "supposedly" was also a voluteer fireman. Does anyone know if it is possible to contact FD to get a list of voluteers from that far back? Are obits. availiable from newspaper or library from 1903? This is my brickwall of gigantic proportions as there just doesn't seem to be any record of this man that I have been able to find. Thanks. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

When Cecila TOY WITHRUP of Bradford died in 1916, a sister was listed as living in Grand Valley, which is in Warren County. However the Mason family seems to be in Bradford. I am going to assume, since I cannot find her anywhere in Warren County that she was in Bradford McKean County before that. It would be in the time frame of 1910-1916 or before. Is anyone researching the MASON family or does anyone know of or have any ideas on a woman named Mrs. H. Mason? Sheila ,_, (O,O) ( ) --"-"--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheila's Violin Corner http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/ Sligo County Ireland http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ Ashland County OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ Venango County PA http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ McKean County PA http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/

Sharon: I know exactly who you are: you are a former officer of the now-DISSOLVED (and it was NOT a "simple name change" as Mary Bryant continues to claim. I sure wish she'd quit beating that dead horse!) Enchanted Mountains Genealogy Society (EMGS), and now are involved with Painted Hills. Frankly, I have better things to do than play "monitor" to see who's posting what to the boards and lists (frankly, only a select few from PHGS need babysitting), but since you opened the door I am going to step through and have my say. And I couldn't agree with you more - there are a few things that need to be cleared up. 1. Who appointed you the "ad police" for the usgenweb boards & lists? 2. You write: "The societies that you are referring to, however, are non-profit organizations, whose fees are actually used for the society's maintenance. The persons involved in these societies receive no compensation from any fees or dues or whatever." I WAS referring to Painted Hills in my initial post, and it's my opinion that money IS one of the issues with that bunch. Enchanted Mountains was DISSOLVED by the founder after it was discovered that the continuing bad behavior of the president would likely get him sued. The president refused to step aside, so the Society was dissolved. Period. When EMGS was dissolved the bylaws were NOT followed in that assets (computers, supplies, books, &c) were not sold and the monies generated from said sale were not distributed to various historical and genealogical societies in the EMGS area. WHY DIDN'T THIS HAPPEN?! As far as I'm concerned, it was a clear case of Painted Hills looting the EMGS coffers. What's the point of! having bylaws if they aren't going to be followed? Do you really think Fortune 500 companies have bylaws in place just for show? If I were a member at the time EMGS was dissolved I would certainly have a lot of questions about how all of that was handled! 3. You further write: "Please advise me of any "commercial" individual researcher who would do the same." I can name one with no trouble! ME! I've been a college genealogy instructor and newspaper genealogy columnist. I write books, write grants, and assist societies with their newsletters. I also have been a professional researcher for years and I have assisted many people at no charge whatever. I am involved with genealogy because I enjoy the work, I have met many nice people, and I believe that preserving the history of this nation is important, and I've donated more hours in the past fifteen years than I'd ever be able to track. And I am not alone, many professional researchers volunteer many, many hours off the books. I think your comment implying that commercial individual researchers do not volunteer was not only unfair, it was totally out of line. You evidently do not know any professional researchers and an apology is in order. For some reason Painted Hills seems to think anybody doing anything within the counties of Allegany, Cattaraugus, McKean and Potter is competition. Why? It's okay for PHGS to post continuously to the boards & lists advising people to visit their site (and join the club), but it's a no-no if anybody else attempts to assist. Frankly, I agree with you to a point about there being a difference between professional researchers posting and non-profit societies posting, but I have yet to see any evidence that PHGS is non-profit, considering its past history. Just because there is a claim to be non-profit, and the Web address ending (.org) is reserved for non-profit groups, doesn't make PHGS non-profit! Do you really think people are that stupid? A few words of advice: First, PHGS dug their own hole. It wasn't some independent researcher, a county coordinator or anybody else involved with genealogy that resulted in the downfall of EMGS and the subsequent bad reputation that was carried over to PHGS. PHGS, because many of the same people are involved, will continue to have to prove that it has changed for the better, and to date I have not seen any evidence that it has. Clean house, and start at the top. Second, Painted Hills should discontinue the practice of nosing around other peoples' business and start working on cleaning up their own backyard. What little credibility that group had is hanging by a thread. Each time someone heavily involved with PHGS, such as yourself, opens their mouth they only shine the light on PHGS, and not in a postive manner. One would have to be wearing blinders to not see a problem, considering PHGS is persona non grata at so many usgenweb sites, historical societies and courthouses. If PHGS is so great why aren't they being welcomed with open arms? If PHGS is so fantastic why are the officers & "staff" banned from the lists? Third, PHGS is run just as EMGS was - a dictatorship. I belong to, and am active in, nearly two dozen historical and/or genealogical societies and NOT ONE fails to have open elections on a yearly basis. I suppose the lesson that could have been learned from the demise of EMGS was not heeded. I find it incredibly dismaying (and wrecklessly irresponsible) that in today's society so much power is given to one individual, and that individual has already been responsible for the demise & dissolution of one on-line genealogy society. Perhaps a key to gaining some credibility in the genealogy world would be to hold open elections and let the members vote for officers. And please don't insult me by stating that all of the members agree with the current roster of officers. Just because I chose not to be a member does not mean that I do not know what's going on behind the closed doors of PHGS. Having a president appoint her best pals & buddies to fill roles of officers just becau! se they follow her and do not rock the boat is, in the kindest sense of the word, "Napoleon-esque." I am sick and tired of this nonsense with PHGS. PHGS is like a wayward child that refuses to accept the blame, and is continually trying to shift the focus onto others. Well, it isn't working. Anybody wanting the TRUE story on EMGS/PHGS can email me at gobigred@theriver.com - I'll tell it exactly like it is. And it's not a pretty picture. Maureen M. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon E. Barber" <ajbar@netsync.net> To: <gobigred@theriver.com> Cc: <PAMCKEAN-L@rootsweb.com>; <NYCATTAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: Advertising on Rootsweb Lists > Mrs. Lee~ > Thank you for your reply to my query; however, I think a few things need > to be cleared-up. > > Professional researchers can and are classifed as being a "commercial" > service. They are in business to make money for their own profit. The > societies that you are referring to, however, are non-profit > organizations, whose fees are actually used for the society's > maintenance. The persons involved in these societies receive no > compensation from any fees or dues or whatever. > > Having been a past-officer of one such society, I can tell you from > first-hand knowledge that contrary to what you state, "...that these > societies will only assist those individuals paying dues", quite the > opposite is true. I personally have spent hours and hours researching > for NON-members who have contacted our particular society with questions > and I have done so without ever receiving any money or having the > society receive any money for my research from these NON-members! > > Please advise me of any "commercial" individual researcher who would do > the same. > > Rootsweb "Acceptable Use Policy" is written the way it is for a > reason.......there is a difference! > > Sincerely, > Sharon Barber > >

I've seen Ms. Stahley's posts, offering her services. Frankly, I see no problem with it. As a matter of fact, I gave Ms. Stahley permission to submit her post to the list. There are so-called Web-based genealogy socities that flagrantly post to the various usgenweb counties and the respective boards (i.e., come on over to our site, we have such & such data), but it is either forgotten, or conveniently overlooked, that these societies will only assist those individuals paying dues. What's the difference if it's an individual or a "society" offering the service? At least the individual is up front about the fact that she's charging a fee. I think it's highly disturbing that a "society" is allowed to post, but when an individual posts offering assistance he or she is criticized for it. It's clearly evident that the "acceptable use policy" needs to be revisited if societies that charge a fee continue to post, but individuals doing so may not. Maureen M. Lee, List Administrator PA-McKean USGENWEB > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZaB.2ACE/1227 > > Message Board Post: > > For the past month or more, advertising from Susan Stahley has > repeatedly been flowing through the various NY/PA County lists offering > her services as a genealogy researcher for a fee...despite the fact that > Rootsweb "Acceptable Use Policy" states: "Content submitted for the > purpose of commercial use, advertising or fee for service is > prohibited." > > Although I and many others find this misuse offensive, a better question > is..."Why is it being allowed to happen?"

HI I seem to be spinning my wheels looking for this address 42 Lorana in Bradford. The persons I am looking for is Nick & Mary Pitrillo. They are not in the soundex. So the name must really be butchered. I have even tried Nick as the surname-no luck. Here is the list of the districts in Bradford with descriptions.Hopefully someone familiar with Bradford can tell me where to look. BTW I did find them living at that address in the 1930 census and we are sure they were living there in 1920. TIA Arleen District 115 Bradford; Ward 1, including Bradford city Jail. (no inmates M. D. F. 6/21/20) Bounded by - West branch Tunungwant Creek, Boylston, East Branch Tunungwant Creek, E. Corydon West Corydon, City limits and West branch Tuneungwant Creek.; Institution should be District 116 Bradford; Ward 2 (part of) including St Bounard's Convent. Bounded by - Corydon (From center of Congress), East branch Tunungwant Creek, City limits, Congress.; Convents should be shown seperately on schedules District 117 Bradford; Ward 2 (part of) Bounded by - Corydon, Congress, City limits, City limits. District 118 Bradford; Ward 3 (part of) Bounded by - City limits, Mechanic extended, West branch Tunungwant Creek, Center., Center Ext. District 119 Bradford; Ward 3 (part of), including Bradford Hospital. Bounded by - City limits, Center, West branch Tunungwant Creek, City limits.; Institution should be shown separately on schedules. District 120 Bradford; Ward 4 (part of) Bounded by - City limits, Mill, east branch Tuneungwant Creek, Boylston, extended Davis, Petrolia extended. District 121 Bradford; Ward 4 (part of), including Bethesda Home. Bounded by - City limits, Petrolia extended, Petrolia and Davis, Boyleton, and West branch Punungwant Creek, Mechanic, Mechanic extended.; Institution should be shown separately on schedules. District 122 Bradford; Ward 5. Bounded by - Ward line, Ward line, City limits, City limits, East branch Tuneungwant Creek. District 123 Bradford; Ward 6. Bounded by - City limits, City limits, City limits, Ward line, east branch Tunungwant Creek, Mill, Jackson, Ward line.

Hello, I will do researsh in the McKean County Courthouse. You can expect professional lookups for deeds, wills, birth, death, marriage records, etc. If interested, you can respond with any questions, or look at http://www.ebookrewards.com/genealogy I also do research in Potter County in Pennsylvania, Allegany and Cattaraugus in New York. Sincerely, Susan Stahley

I've "rescued" a group of 5 photographs of Theodore W. GOOGE all taken at studios in Bradford, Pennsylvania. All the photographs appears to have been taken in the 1880's with Theodore appearing to be between 5 months and 3 years of age in the various photographs. I believe this may be Theodore W. GOOGE b. 1 Nov 1887 and died in March 1970 at Dumas, Texas. His social security card was issued in the State of Oklahoma so he would have been living there at sometime also. I'm hoping to find someone from this family so that these wonderful old photographs are returned to their rightful place with family. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

If anyone is researching the DANA family in Bradford I would like to compare notes with them. Thank you very much. D. F. Kellerman

Hello All & Happy New Year: The PA 1910 Miracode Index Census lists a William Ruth, age 51 living in McKean County, PA w/ wife Lizzie H. age 45. Their children are listed as > Alice M. age 19, Paul R. age 16, Flora age 14 & and a grandson age 5. I wonder if anyone knows of this family or could point me in the right direction on finding parents for William & wife Lizzie H. Have checked U. S. Genweb for census info can find nothing. Thanks In Advance: Kimberly

Hello All & Happy New Year: The PA 1910 Miracode Index Census lists a William Ruth, age 51 living in McKean County, PA w/ wife Lizzie H. age 45. Their children are listed as > Alice M. age 19, Paul R. age 16, Flora age 14 & and a grandson age 5. I wonder if anyone knows of this family or could point me in the right direction on finding parents for William & wife Lizzie H. Have checked U. S. Genweb for census info can find nothing. Thanks In Advance: Kimberly

Good morning, List Members. My apologies for not posting the McKean County obituaries this past week. There were no updates on www.kanerepublican.com or www.portallegany.net. A few at www.oleantimesherald.com this week. I've posted what could be found on www.bradfordera.com, but believe a few may have been missed, and that site does not have an archive. Joseph W. Conner, 83, Cyclone, died Thursday, December 5, 2002. www.bradfordera.com Paul E. Kenneson, 86, Coleville, died Friday, November 8, 2002. www.bradfordera.com James A. Hajnos, 49, Ludlow, died Friday, December 6, 2002. www.bradfordera.com Norman E. Greene, 72, Smethport, died Friday, December 6, 2002. www.bradfordera.com Enos Bovaird Sage, 79, Bradford, died Wednesday, December 4, 2002. www.oleantimesherald.com Dale S. Jewart, 75, formerly of Port Allegany, Pa., died Sunday, December 1, 2002. www.oleantimesherald.com Maureen M. Lee, List Administrator McKean County, Penn'a USGENWEB

The Enchanted Mountains Genealogy Society was dissolved by the founder, Michael Disorbo. The president of EMGS at the time of the dissolution began her own Web site, under a new name and it is a totally separate society, with no affiliation whatsoever with EMGS. Maureen M. Lee PA McKean List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: <jeromecarpenter@juno.com> To: <PAMCKEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 27 November, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: Enchanted Mountain Genealogy Society > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZaB.2ACE/1218 > > Message Board Post: > > Does anyone know what happened to the EMGS web site? Is it gone forever, or has the web address just changed? >

Ernest H. "Pat" Barber, 81, Eldred, formerly of Hazel Hurst and Mount Jewett. www.oleantimesherald.com Ernest H. "Pat" Barber, 81, Eldred, formerly of Hazel Hurst and Mount Jewett. www.bradfordera.com Vera M. Woodle, 93, formerly of Bradford. www.bradfordera.com Maureen M. Lee, List Administrator McKean County, Penn'a USGENWEB

Charlotte A. Simons, 85, Kane. www.kanerepublican.com Peter Atigan, 83, Kane. www.kanerepublican.com Kenneth F. Grosch, 87, Kane. www.kanerepublican.com Mary J. Curcio, 91, Bradford. www.oleantimesherald.com Marie A. Wood, 82, Lewis Run. www.bradfordera.com Joseph A. Holec, 84, Bradford. www.bradfordera.com Mary J. Curcio, 91, Bradford. www.bradfordera.com Charlotte A. Simons, 85, Kane. www.bradfordera.com Maureen M. Lee, List Administrator McKean County, Penn'a USGENWEB