Kevin, Thank you for the look-up. May I impose on you for one more thing? Could you tell me who sold the land that the Lycoming College bought to build their academy? I know you said that you did not see Charles D. Eldred as a trustee, but maybe I am reading the following incorrectly: "In 1868 he was appointed collector of tolls for the West Branch canal at Williamsport, and reappointed the two succeeding years. He was a trustee when the grounds were purchased on which Dickinson Seminary is located, and the first part of that structure was erected during his term of trusteeship." Could this mean that he was a trustee with some outfit instead of a trustee of Dickinson Seminary? Thanks for your help, Eldred

Eldred, Chapter 14 is titled Succession of Teachers and starting on page 149 they list the Succession of Officers of Board of Trustees. The years begin with 1848 and cover people up until 1959. Charles D. Eldred is not listed as an official member in this book. On page 18 the heading "The First Trustees" showing as follows: Rev. Thomas Bowman - Williamsport Rev. Samuel Briston - Williamsport Rev. George Guyer - Williamsport John Smith - Williamsport Robert Fleming - Williamsport Charles Low - Williamsport John W. Maynard - Williamsport Robert Faries - Williamsport Henry Hartman - Williamsport David R. Shower - Newberry John Webb - Jersey Shore George Hartman - Salona George Crawford - Pine Creek John Toner - Bellefonte James Irvine - Bellefonte Moses Chamberlin - Milton James Dougal - Milton Jonathan Wolf - Lewisburg Thomas Wood - Danville John Crawford - Bloomingdale Charles B. Bowman - Berwick Sorry but no mention of Eldred in the first couple of chapters that I skimmed through. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Ewa728@aol.com [mailto:Ewa728@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:16 PM To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Williamsport Academy/Charles D. Eldred Kevin, Your history of Lycoming College was very good. Would your "History of Lycoming College" book mention Charles Dodson ELDRED? He was a trustee when the grounds were purchased on which Dickinson Seminary is located, and the first part of that structure was erected during his term of trusteeship. I am not able to verify that through the college, although I have it from a couple of sources. Charles D. ELDRED was very influential in the history of Williamsport and the surrounding area. By a close vote, Eldred Township was named in his honor. Eldred

My ggg grandfather Patrick W McGonnell m. Jane Torbett in the Williamsport area in 1830.I am looking for help in identifying the parents of Jane Torbett. Also seeking information on any McGonnells in the Lycoming Co. area. Thanks! Sharon

Eldred, I'll take a look for you tonight. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Ewa728@aol.com [mailto:Ewa728@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:16 PM To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Williamsport Academy/Charles D. Eldred Kevin, Your history of Lycoming College was very good. Would your "History of Lycoming College" book mention Charles Dodson ELDRED? He was a trustee when the grounds were purchased on which Dickinson Seminary is located, and the first part of that structure was erected during his term of trusteeship. I am not able to verify that through the college, although I have it from a couple of sources. Charles D. ELDRED was very influential in the history of Williamsport and the surrounding area. By a close vote, Eldred Township was named in his honor. Eldred

Kevin, Your history of Lycoming College was very good. Would your "History of Lycoming College" book mention Charles Dodson ELDRED? He was a trustee when the grounds were purchased on which Dickinson Seminary is located, and the first part of that structure was erected during his term of trusteeship. I am not able to verify that through the college, although I have it from a couple of sources. Charles D. ELDRED was very influential in the history of Williamsport and the surrounding area. By a close vote, Eldred Township was named in his honor. Eldred

All, According to: Charles Scott Williams, "History of Lycoming College," (King Brothers, Inc.: Baltimore, 1959), Lycoming College has gone through several name changes and has been known as: Williamsport Academy - The academy was incorporated on 2 April 1811. Dickinson Seminary - Founder Rev. B. H. Crever helped to purchase the Academy property on 5 Jan 1848, it was to be an auxiliary to the Dickinson College in Carlisle, run by the Methodist church. School open for students on 14 Sep 1848. Williamsport Dickinson Junior College - In 1929 the Seminary began giving Junior College work. In 1935 Dr. Long reported that the Seminary was fully accredited and that it was the first fully accredited Junior College in Pennsylvania. Lycoming College - 17 Oct 1946, a committee was appointed to contact University Senate and Dickinson College concerning four year college. 8 May 1947, State Council of Education of Pennsylvania officially approves institution as a four year Liberal Arts College with authority to grant Baccalaureate degrees in Arts and Sciences. 23 Oct 1947, the name Lycoming was selected by the Board of Directors as the name for the new college. Hope that this answers those questions. Kevin L. Sholder rdrunner@siscom.net Don't wait to make your Son a great man. Make him a great boy. --Unknown http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/index.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rdrunner/index.htm kevin.sholder@ncr.com LOCATIONS THAT I AM RESEARCHING - Pennsylvania (Berks, Centre, Clinton, Lycoming, Sullivan, Northumberland Counties); Germany (Wüerttemberg). SURNAMES THAT I AM RESEARCHING - Aderhold; Alexander; Bower; Campbell; Carpenter; Cohick; DeRemer; Hafer; Heim; Horn; Kiess; Kinley; Lovell; Mahaffey; Marquardt; Marshall; Metzger; Paulhamus (Polhemius); Pepperman; Rentz; Robinson; Roller; Sholder (Scholderer); Smith; Springman; Stabler; Stoltz; Ulmer; Updegraff (Op den Graeff); Waltz (Walz); Wurster (Wurster Von Igelsberg) and their related family lines.

Vicki - It was a methodist college - had some connection with Syracuse University, which was also a methodist college way back when.

Yes - You are right, it is still affiliated with the Methodist Faith. I am a former alumni. -----Original Message----- From: QUEENIEVEE@aol.com [mailto:QUEENIEVEE@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:43 PM To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: BOAL Lycoming College, formerly Dickinson, was known as "Dickinson Seminary." I believe it was a Methodist College. Anyone know for certain? Vicki

Lycoming College, formerly Dickinson, was known as "Dickinson Seminary." I believe it was a Methodist College. Anyone know for certain? Vicki

Hi Jim, Good to hear from you again. Yes, we had a lovely Christmas; I hope yours was the same. I'll look forward to seeing the attachment. Vicki

Hi There were several BOAL families in Centre Co. Records also. Elizabeth, George, Hanna, Henry, Jane, John, Martha, Mary, Nancy Jack & William are listed in marriages 1800 - 1850. On Dec. 27, 1831 John BOAL and Isabella HUGHEY, both of Ferguson Twp (Centre Co. PA) were married by Rev. William STUART Ref. Source: Centre Democrat 12/31, Spangler Coll: 174:2 and Pattee Library at Penn State. Does anyone have any info on this couple? I am researching HUGHES/HEWES/HUGHEY in Centre and Clinton Co.'s. Thanks! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl

>From about 1848 until about 1947, present-day Lycoming College was known first as Williamsport Dickinson Seminary, then later as Williamsport Dickinson Junior College. It became Lycoming College in 1947. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carson, Susan" <scarson@paturnpike.com> To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:31 AM Subject: RE: BOAL > I would have thought that it was Dickinson College in Carlisle. It is > separate entity from Dickinson Law School. It still exists today. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sholder, Kevin L [mailto:KS100004@exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:25 AM > To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: BOAL > > Eldred, > > I would say yes, but that information came from the source listed at the top > of the e-mail, it is just a transcription. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ewa728@aol.com [mailto:Ewa728@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:09 PM > To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: BOAL > > > Kevin, > In the biographical sketch of William K. Boal, that you contributed, you > mention that George F. Boal was a graduate of Dickinson College of > Pennsylvania. I assume that this was the Dickinson College that is now > known > as Lycoming College in Williamsport, PA. Is this assumption correct? > Best wishes, > Eldred >

Eldred, Please see attached link for text as well as other names. http://www.tdn-net.com/genealogy/stories/biograph/biog-ae/2172.htm Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Sholder, Kevin L Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:25 AM To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: BOAL Eldred, I would say yes, but that information came from the source listed at the top of the e-mail, it is just a transcription. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Ewa728@aol.com [mailto:Ewa728@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:09 PM To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: BOAL Kevin, In the biographical sketch of William K. Boal, that you contributed, you mention that George F. Boal was a graduate of Dickinson College of Pennsylvania. I assume that this was the Dickinson College that is now known as Lycoming College in Williamsport, PA. Is this assumption correct? Best wishes, Eldred

I would have thought that it was Dickinson College in Carlisle. It is separate entity from Dickinson Law School. It still exists today. -----Original Message----- From: Sholder, Kevin L [mailto:KS100004@exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:25 AM To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: BOAL Eldred, I would say yes, but that information came from the source listed at the top of the e-mail, it is just a transcription. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Ewa728@aol.com [mailto:Ewa728@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:09 PM To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: BOAL Kevin, In the biographical sketch of William K. Boal, that you contributed, you mention that George F. Boal was a graduate of Dickinson College of Pennsylvania. I assume that this was the Dickinson College that is now known as Lycoming College in Williamsport, PA. Is this assumption correct? Best wishes, Eldred

Margaret, If you look on a contemporary map, Picture Rocks is "smack dab" in the middle of the intersection of Highway 220 and 864. (Most of the town is on the East side of the intersection) Looks like not quite half of Picture Rocks is in Wolf Township and the rest in Penn Township. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Steen [mailto:maggies@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:36 PM To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Picture Rocks Could someone tell me where Picture Rocks is in Lycoming County. What township. Thanks Margaret

Eldred, I would say yes, but that information came from the source listed at the top of the e-mail, it is just a transcription. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Ewa728@aol.com [mailto:Ewa728@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:09 PM To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: BOAL Kevin, In the biographical sketch of William K. Boal, that you contributed, you mention that George F. Boal was a graduate of Dickinson College of Pennsylvania. I assume that this was the Dickinson College that is now known as Lycoming College in Williamsport, PA. Is this assumption correct? Best wishes, Eldred

hello Vicki. hope you had a wonderful holiday. Been awhile since we emailed each other. I received a map with Rentz farm and others. hope you might be able to give me some clues how to detect on current map. I will email attachment later. Thanks, Jim Campbell

Accurate geographical locations can be searched very easily through several data bases, but the US Geological Survey national mapping service is one of the easiest and most complete. Even if you don't know the exact spelling, you can experiment with what you think it might be. The web page of the USGS is at http://www.usgs.gov and click on Geographic Names on the right hand side. Then, scroll down for the Query information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marge Johnson" <mjohn1@powerbank.net> To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Picture Rocks/Renovo > Are you using mapblast to find this information? I have not seen it-just used mapquest in the past. > Marge > >

Vicki, You did quite well in your estimation. As the crow flies the distance from Hughesville to Picture Rocks is 3 mi., but as man travels, it will be closer to 5 mi. Good Luck, Eldred Distance result <A HREF="http://www.indo.com/distance/distance-details.html">Distance</A> between Hughesville, Pennsylvania, United States and Picture Rocks, Pennsylvania, United States, as the crow flies:3 miles (5 km) (3 nautical miles) Initial heading from Hughesville to Picture Rocks:north-northeast (17.3 degrees) Initial heading from Picture Rocks to Hughesville:south-southwest (197.3 degrees) See <A HREF="http://www.mapblast.com/myblast/driveSilo.mb?AD2_street_1=&AD3_1=Hughesville%2CPA&AD4_1=United+States&AD2_street_2=&AD3_2=Picture+Rocks%2CPA&AD4_2=United+States&req_action=getdir">driving distance and directions</A> (courtesy <A HREF="http://www.mapblast.com/">MapBlast</A>).See <A HREF="http://pubweb.parc.xerox.com/map/db=usa/ht=0.1039/wd=0.1662/color=1/mark=41.2385,-76.7264;41.2800,-76.7092/lat=41.2592/lon=-76.7178/"> these places on the map</A> (courtesy <A HREF="http://pubweb.parc.xerox.com/">Xerox PARC</A>). Hughesville, Pennsylvania, US County: Lycoming County Location: 41:14:18N 76:43:35W Population (1990): 2049 Elevation: 580 feet Picture Rocks, Pennsylvania, US County: Lycoming County Location: 41:16:48N 76:42:33W Population (1990): 660 Elevation: 659 feet

Renovo used to be a thriving railroad town. With the demise of railroads, the town pretty much "went under." It's still there and still populated, but there isn't much there except for the houses and a couple of bars. The fall foilage there is outstanding though, for a Sunday afternoon drive. Picture Rocks, as someone else said, is near Hughesville. You reach it by heading North on PA Route 220, and it's (this is a guess) about 5 miles North of Hughesville. Vicki