Hi, dont know if any of you have visited this site, I myself only glanced over it, and to my surprise and pleasure found my name listed as a contact in PA Montgomery co. (probably from GenWeb or something)... I tried to get into the Genealogy site, but was told there was no information there, so tried the states and found a bit... If any of you try this site, let me know how it works out! http://www.rootsquest.com/~amhisnet/ Adrienne Gallagher Narberth, PA

Does anyone know anything about any of these people? 1850 Lycoming Co, Limestone Twp. William Clark 59 PA Clarissa Clark 51 PA Caroline Clark 19 PA Margaret Clark 15 PA William Cochran 11 PA I suspect that William Cochran is the grandson of this couple and that might possibly be my gg grandfather. My William Cochran's mother's name was Agnes Clark and her father was William. I would appreciate any help identifying these people. Other Lycoming lines--Harman, Pepperman and Yetley. Deena Cross ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I am researching the decedents of Rev. Gustavus Schultze/Schultz and Solomon Gottschall, both from the Hepburn Twp./ Blooming Grove area of Lycoming County. My Solomon Gottschall is not the wagon maker from Williamsport but a laborer / farmer. I would like to hear from anybody having any information or doing the same research. Thanks, Charlie Martin ( [email protected] )

[email protected] wrote: > > Subject: > > PALYCOMI-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 68 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Messiah Church (Lutheran) - Alvira ["Harold E. Bower, Jr." <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from PALYCOMI-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Messiah Church (Lutheran) - Alvira/Elimsport > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 23:18:06 -0400 > From: "Harold E. Bower, Jr." <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I came across something recently that referenced a Messiah Church near Alvira, Gregg Twp, Union Co, PA. The family was Lutheran that was supposed to attend there. Does anyone know if this church is still in existence? Another source talked about a different family in the area being Old School Lutheran. Was that a church in the area? It sounds more like a theological orientation than a church. > > I am trying to locate the graves of two brothers, Johannes (John) BOWER and Moses BOWER, who lived somewhere in what is today Brady or Washington Twps, Lycoming Co, and Gregg Twp, Union Co. At the time of their death's, about 1805, much of this area was White Deer Twp, Northumberland Co. The descendents of these brothers were in the areas around Elimsport and Alvira. Can anyone suggest where Lutherans living in that area may have worshipped during 1800-1815 and what cemeteries we should check for these burials? > > We've already checked Elimsport, St. John's EUB/UMC, and the three Alvira cemeteries. We have found family members in all of these, but not Johannes or Moses. > > Thanks for your attention to my questions. > > Harold Bower > [email protected] > > Researching BOWER - marriages with BUCK, HARNER, OAKES, SCHOOLEY, WILSON, MILLER, PAULING > EY, = > WILSON, MILLER, PAULING Re Schooley name: There is a Dr Schooley, as in MD who goes to our church, McVeytown Presbyterian Church, in McVeytown, Mifflin Co., PA. If you would like their address I'll be glad to send in on to you. Also there are Harner's in State College, PA. They have a farm produce establishment we pass on our way into State College. Just some thoughts. Good luck in your research. Jane Crawford

Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward. Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't just fight the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government! Some of us take these liberties so much for granted...We shouldn't. So, take a couple of minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid . . . LET'S ALL REMEMBER THAT FREEDOM IS "NEVER FREE"!!!! And they probably would have still signed if they had known the outcome - to themselves personally. Would you have? Kevin L. Sholder [email protected] or [email protected] http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/index.htm

I came across something recently that referenced a Messiah Church near Alvira, Gregg Twp, Union Co, PA. The family was Lutheran that was supposed to attend there. Does anyone know if this church is still in existence? Another source talked about a different family in the area being Old School Lutheran. Was that a church in the area? It sounds more like a theological orientation than a church. I am trying to locate the graves of two brothers, Johannes (John) BOWER and Moses BOWER, who lived somewhere in what is today Brady or Washington Twps, Lycoming Co, and Gregg Twp, Union Co. At the time of their death's, about 1805, much of this area was White Deer Twp, Northumberland Co. The descendents of these brothers were in the areas around Elimsport and Alvira. Can anyone suggest where Lutherans living in that area may have worshipped during 1800-1815 and what cemeteries we should check for these burials? We've already checked Elimsport, St. John's EUB/UMC, and the three Alvira cemeteries. We have found family members in all of these, but not Johannes or Moses. Thanks for your attention to my questions. Harold Bower [email protected] Researching BOWER - marriages with BUCK, HARNER, OAKES, SCHOOLEY, WILSON, MILLER, PAULING EY, = WILSON, MILLER, PAULING

Kevin Sholder and others-- I have a Florence HARRIS born c1910, daughter of George Kester HARRIS and Loretta CUMMINGS. Florence married Keith N WALTZ (dates and parents unknown) and lived in Williamsport. Any connection between my Keith N WALTZ and your Florence WALTZ? Keith and Florence (HARRIS) WALTZ had sons Keith, Bert, and George. George Kester HARRIS, above, was the grandson of Henry HARRIS (1816-1883) and wife Catherine KONKLE (1819-1869) of Fairfield Twp. Catherine KONKLE's first husband was Charles CARPENTER (b ? - d c 1839-42). I would like to know Charles CARPENTER's parents and the circumstances surrounding his early death. Pat Stover Fair [email protected] Stover Genealogy Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/8220 Join the Centre Co PA Genealogy WebRing at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/8220/ccpagnwr.html ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

MARTIN / MOETCEL: Searching for any information on Catharine MARTIN (First husband, Daniel MARTIN died in June 1885). Married Gustavus MOETCEL in June 1886 in Lycoming County, Pa. Catharine had three children by Daniel: Johann Adam MARTIN who married Catharine Schultz in Muncy Twp. in 1893. Carrie MARTIN who married John F. LUTZ in Lycoming County in May 1885. Elizabeth MARTIN who married Daniel HUMMELL in Montoursville, Pa. Dec. 1885. Elizabeth Hummell was living in Montoursville, Lycoming Co. in December 1932. Would appreciate any information on any of the above. Thanks, Charlie Martin, Williamsport, Pa.

Elizabeth B. SHOLDER b. 1833 - d. ????, m. Thomas MAHAFFEY b. 20 Aug 1833 - d. ????, they had eight children: Emily MAHAFFEY b. 25 Sep 1956, Edward A. MAHAFFEY b. 22 Jul 1858, Charlotte MAHAFFEY b. 29 May 1861, Samuel MAHAFFEY b. 13 Apr 1865, Thomas MAHAFFEY b.16 Jun 1867 - d. 24 Aug 1913, William MAHAFFEY b. 23 Sep 1869, Annie May MAHAFFEY b. 12 Aug 1871, and Lewis M. MAHAFFEY b. 18 Dec 1873. I need any further information available on these children. (Note: There is no additional information available in the book "Mahaffey Descendants 1600 - 1914, Sketch of Reunions, Historical Records and Biographical Genealogy of Mahaffey Descendants".) Kevin L. Sholder [email protected] or [email protected] http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/index.htm The computer is incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid. Man is unbelievably slow, inaccurate, and brilliant. The marriage of the two is a force beyond calculation. -- Leo Cherne

Oliver G. HAFER (son of Catherine (?) HAFER and ????) m. 27 Jun ???? Arlene R. BERRY (daughter of Harry M. BERRY). They had two known children: Robert Alan HAFER; Bonalyn Lou HAFER m. 25 Jul 1964 Philip SHOEMAKER. I am looking for the parents of Oliver G. HAFER and his wife Arlene R. BERRY, along with any other vital information that I am missing. Any further descendant information would also be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin L. Sholder [email protected] or [email protected] http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/index.htm The computer is incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid. Man is unbelievably slow, inaccurate, and brilliant. The marriage of the two is a force beyond calculation. -- Leo Cherne

Florence WALTZ m. William CARPENTER. They had five children: Marintha W. CARPENTER b. 7 Jan 1913 Woodward Twp., Lycoming County, PA d. 20 Apr 1993, m. 11 Mar 1936 to Raymond S. WAGNER b. 8 Mar 1916 d. 22 Mar 1989; Aldas CARPENTER; William J. CARPENTER; Ruth CARPENTER b. 22 Dec 1917, m. Harry LeRoy SMITH b. 7 Jan 1919 d. 21 Oct 1976; and Bertha CARPENTER m. Mr. PALMATIER. I am looking for the parents and grand-parents of Florence Waltz. Possibly the grand-daughter of George B. Waltz d. 8 Jun 1904. And any information on the other people listed. Thanks in advance that anyone might be able to provide. Kevin L. Sholder [email protected] or [email protected] http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/index.htm The computer is incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid. Man is unbelievably slow, inaccurate, and brilliant. The marriage of the two is a force beyond calculation. -- Leo Cherne

Hi, I'm new to this list, and wonder if anyone else is researching the Brawley family of Lycoming, all born in Lycoming Roger Brawley-1747 died 1810 Crawford Co. Pa. Mary ? about 1751 " 1805 Crawford Co. Pa. sons: Francis Brawley 1773 died 1829 NE Erie Co. Pa John Brawley 1773 " 1852 " " " " James Brawley 1779 " 1851 Crawford Co. Pa. Hugh Brawley 1784 " 1856 " " " Thanks very much for any help.Just cannot find Roger Brawley, and Mary? my ggggrandparents Billie Rood [email protected]

Hi, I just subscribe to this list. I just found on the IGI listing Catherine Elizabeth RENN born 4-5-1835 Franklin' Lycoming Co. Pa parents John RENN & Caroline FUNK I am hoping someone on this list is also researching this line because I would like to know if this is indeed "MY" Catherine that married Joseph KNISELY and they lived and died in Allen Co. Ind. Thank you and have a GREAT Day! Susan

I would like to know how many Catholic churches in Williamsport still there from 1852? Do they still have record kept for my great grandfather Jakob Meisenbach/Misenbach/Misenback and his son also Jacob? If Jacob still in town, he may get married between 1855-1859. I need marriage record when he married to Katherina Moyer/Mayer. Jacob used to lives in Williamsport and under Armstrong township. I have his record but not marriage. Hope any of you can help me. George Meisenbach [email protected]

Larry, Kevin and List, I am interested in Wildwood because I have a hundred or more ancestors there. Below are two mails that I saved that should answer some questions. I haven't contacted them yet because I think I will go up there later this summer. As Nancy sent me the last message, she was going to have surgery. I've tried to mail her but, no luck so hope everything is ok. Saved message From: [email protected] Date: Tue, Apr 20, 1999, 10:15pm To: [email protected] Subject: Wildwood Cem. Frank, Just called cemetery. Ben Kranz told me that they don't have email. However, you can just send via regular mail the information that you are seeking and they will look it up and send it to you. He told me twice that there is no charge! How about that? A stamped address envelope would be nice to send them. Standard research procedure, right? Goodby Nancy signing off for atleast 2 weeks :) :) :) Nancy B. ============================ Saved message From: [email protected] Date: Sun, Apr 18, 1999, 12:12am To: [email protected] Subject: Re: A hilly Cemetery ????? Dear Frank, We have a hilly cemetery here in Williamsport "to end all cemeterys". It overlooks the west end of town called Newberry, in early times Newberry was called Jaysburg. The name of the cemetery is Wildwoodn and it is beautiful and huge. We don't bother to document the grave stones there because the records they keep are excellent. They would even send you a map of where to find the grave that you are looking for should you ever come to town. It is so big that you just couldn't wander around and hope to find anyone. Here is how to reach them: Wildwood Cemetery Company, Wildwood Blvd. Williamsport. PA 17701. Phone: 570-323-8421. ................etc. Nancy B. I had purchased vol. 5 of the cemetery series thinking that was what I wanted. I haven't been to the cemetery since the 60's. Frank Packer Lithia Springs, GA

The Lycoming County Genealogical Society is, I believe, in the process of doing a book. Currently if you can visit Wildwood they are very helpful. Kevin L. Sholder [email protected] or [email protected] http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/index.htm The computer is incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid. Man is unbelievably slow, inaccurate, and brilliant. The marriage of the two is a force beyond calculation. -- Leo Cherne > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 1:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Wildwood Cemetery > > Does anyone know if the persons buried in Wildwood Cemetery, Williamsport, > > are indexed in any book, publication, or website? > Larry Hunt > Pittsburgh, PA

Does anyone know if the persons buried in Wildwood Cemetery, Williamsport, are indexed in any book, publication, or website? Larry Hunt Pittsburgh, PA

Hi List: If you happen to run across any COVEY folks in your genealogical travels I would certainly like to hear from you. Although there are ver few of us, we seemed to have spread like wildfire throughout the United States. Anything you can help me with will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance and I look forward to finding some of those lost rascals I’ve been looking for. Just remember Ol’ Tubby Joe Stottlemeyer. He should be the mayor of Watson. Bill Covey Creator of Ol' Tubby Joe Stottlemeyer Author of: Watson Is Where It Wuz http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Station/3265/Welcome.html

Looking for info re; Ebenezer White and spouse Josephine. Son Joseph Oliver White B. 1882 M. Mary Barbara Wittig B.1886. Children. Eugene and Robert H. J. Oliver White, as he was known, was a resident of the W'msport Grimesville E. W'msport area. Would appreciate hearing from any one with info on the White- Wittig surnames. TIA, Richard

The record book is short and usually you can just call the Recorder's office (570-327-2263) and the good folks there will look it up while you wait, copy out what's there (it's a table running across the page rather than individual certificates). These were voluntary filings, so there may not be a record, and if there is it contains only whatever the submitter told, spelled in the way the transcriber heard it. The records as with all PA counties start (I think) late 1880s and end when the state took it over in 1906. Doug > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: PALYCOMI-D Digest V99 #60 > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:59:08 -0400 (EDT) > From: [email protected] (Barbara Blossom) > To: [email protected] > > Has anyone had experience accessing death records from the Lycoming Co. > Courthouse? > And if so, what info do they contain? Is it better to write or to visit > in person? > I'm interested in dates between 1867 and 1891. > Barbara B