Trudy,       It is stated in the History of Lycoming County that John F. Blair, merchant was born in Old Lycoming township, Lycoming County, June 9, 1844, son of John and Nancy Carson Blair. His father was a native of Bucks Co. .....       You stated that your John Blair was born about 1760, so I did not copy much more for you.  There is mention of 35 Blairs, from Aaron to William.  James Blair was a native of Bucks County, PA and came to Lycoming County when a boy with his father, John Blair, who first settled in Armstrong township and subsequently on what is known as the Brier farm, where they lived for over twenty years.........       There is mention of William Blair pg. 659 First Settlers ............. After the Revolutionary war, the Hayses,.................William Blair and Catherine Reed settled on Beauty's run and made improvements ............       Blair seems to be a very common name.  Have you looked into the history or Blair County, and specifically, Altoona, PA? Hope this helps.   Eldred

Julianne...did you ever contact Kathie Mirabella? John Fisher is an ancestor of hers. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fishell" <jfishell@vcnet.com> To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Meginness History of Lycoming County Att: Ron Beaman > >The value of the book is priceless as I use mine all the time. It makes for > >very interesting reading. I usually don't like to advertise, but, regardless > >of the price of the book, it should be in your library, if the folks were > >connected to Lycoming County. > > I agree whole-heartedly! When I first received the book (it's huge) I > was disappointed because it didn't provide an immediate solution to > any of my brick walls. However, the longer I've had it the more I > realize its value. I am having to use more "round-about" methods for > finding out where my John Fisher came from. He appears to have been > plunked into Lycoming County circa 1814 by space aliens or possibly > as part of a witness protection program. As I sort through what I can > find out about his life, I am creating a list of co-conspirators in > his plot to confound his descendants (i.e. business associates, > neighbors, in-laws, distant relatives, etc.). Meginess has been great > for researching all these people and providing history and background > about the area. > > One caution about the book: be careful when reading it in bed!! I > pulled a muscle in my shoulder by trying to read it at an odd angle > and was sore for days. > > Julianne Fishell >

Thanks Kevin...once again, I appreciate your help. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin R. Phillips" <KevinRPhillips@prodigy.net> To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: RE: Meginness History of Lycoming County Att: Ron Beaman > I believe that "The Sullivan Review" in Dushore sells copies of these. > > They can be reached at: > > The Sullivan Review > PO Box 305 > Dushore, PA 18614 > 570-928-8403 or 570-928-8136 > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wswmtree@aol.com [mailto:Wswmtree@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:14 PM > To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Meginness History of Lycoming County Att: Ron Beaman > > > There were a series of books out in the seventies covering Lumbering > Sawmills > and railroad put out by Taber. Printed by Reed Hann Litho-- Logging > Railroad > Era of Lumberimg Era > There are reprints but I don't know who might carry them now. > #4 "Sunset Along the Susquehanna Waters? covers the area of > Williamsport, > Leetonia, Slate Run,Cammalm Glenn Union, Gleasonton. > If you can get one of these it may help you in your search >

Ashley, My GG Grandfather, Edward Freeborn Hunt was a telegrapher for the War Department in D.C. during the Civil War At the close of the war he returned to Williamsport sometime in 1863 and accepted a position as chief telegraph operator under George Webb, who was then superintendent of the Catawissa railroad. Larry Hunt Pittsburgh, PA

Thanks Eldred. My family has long had copies of Warren Martin's bio found in Meginnis. It is not entirely correct . . . but most of it is. Also I know that John was born in Sussex Co. NJ, but I don't know who his, nor Eleanor's parents were. I'm going on the theories than his were Robert and Christiana (?) Martin. from NJ who show up in Saratoga co. about 1810, and her's may have been Stephen and Deborah of Fort Anne, Washington co. But have never proved either one . ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ewa728@aol.com> To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: October 02, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: Warren Martin > Trudy, > > > Warren Martin, justice of the peace, was born near Saratoga Springs, Saratoga > County, New York, June 30, 1830, son of John and Eleanor (Clarke) Martin, > natives of Vermont and early settlers of Saratoga County. He received a fair > education in the public schools, and became an architect and mill-wright by > trade. In 1856 he moved to Lycoming County, locating in Williamsport. His > first work was on the old Dodge mills, which he repaired and rebuilt, and he > has since made repairs on many of the mills in this city. In 1879 he became > foreman and general manager of the Ten Eyck mill at Duboistown and conducted > the same until 1883. In 1884 he operated the Brown, Clarke & Howe mill at > Williamsport, after which he went to Caledonia, Elk County, Pennsylvania, and > conducted a mill for J. E. Putnam for some years....... > > There is more to this story, found on Page 1099, History of Lycoming County, > Pennsylvania, 1892 by Meginness. If you do not have a copy I would be glad > to finish typing the page for you. > Best wishes, > Eldred >

I have some information about a Miller family with roots in Lebanon County. They include a Martin Wesley Miller (1846-1919) and his wife Elizabeth Emerick (1850-1922) with 12 children, all having the middle name "Emerick". Sounds like a different family from the ones currently being discussed but.............! Does this sound familiar to anyone? -- Carol Courter Updegraff PO Box 222 Glennallen, AK 99588-0222 cupdegraff@cvinternet.net

thanks for the info...I will check with LCGS...see what they have K ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wswmtree@aol.com> To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Meginness History of Lycoming County Att: Ron Beaman > There were a series of books out in the seventies covering Lumbering Sawmills > and railroad put out by Taber. Printed by Reed Hann Litho-- Logging Railroad > Era of Lumberimg Era > There are reprints but I don't know who might carry them now. > #4 "Sunset Along the Susquehanna Waters? covers the area of Williamsport, > Leetonia, Slate Run,Cammalm Glenn Union, Gleasonton. > If you can get one of these it may help you in your search >

This was too funny! Thanks for the humour!! > He appears to have been > plunked into Lycoming County circa 1814 by space aliens or possibly > as part of a witness protection program. > and was sore for days. > > Julianne Fishell

Ashley...I have been attempting to find out information regarding the RR's which served Williamsport for some time...I have visited numerous sites, and have contacted many RR enthusiasts of the area to no avail. It seems that most RR records of that time, were not kept or were destroyed. As you have, probably, read...my GGrandfather was an enginieer on one of RR's serving Williamsport. He drew a pension upon retirement, and I still have not made the correct connection for more information on his career. Someday, it will all come together. good luck K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Tiwara" <grubisic@netwurx.net> To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Meginness History, railroads, MILLER family > Eldred, or anyone else with railroad information, > I've been told that my great-grandfather, Eugene Franklin MILLER, worked > for the railroad. He was born around 1867. His son, my grandfather, Larry > Irwin MILLER, was a telegraph operator. In 1910 they lived in Schuykill > county, Tamaqua township, but Larry, 1886-1973, later lived in Newberry, > Lycoming county. > Is there anything in the Meginnes book which would tell me which railroad > was the likeliest? Where might I begin looking for information about when and > where they worked, or pension records? As it happens, I don't know where > either is buried, nor for great-grandmother Rosetta CORLE MILLER, nor death > dates for the great-grandparents. Suggestions about how to find out? > > Thanks for your time, > Ashley > > Ron Beaman wrote: > > > Eldred...is there anything in the Meginnes book regarding the railroads > > coming through Williamsport, circa 1880 thru 1900? > > My GGrandfather was an engineer on one of them. I believe we have > > communicated regarding this before...but, I have not seen the Meginness > > book. thanks Kay >

Ashley...I live in Leavenworth, KS...if you ever find out where Larry is buried, and want a photo of his gravesite, I will be happy to do it for you. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Tiwara" <grubisic@netwurx.net> To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 11:48 PM Subject: Re: Meginness History, railroads, MILLER family > Good grief! Good heavens! > Finally...finally someone reacts to these names. > Wonderful Kathryn, > Thank you so much for writing. I would be delighted if my MILLER's are > yours too. What I did not put in the posting is that my parents divorced the > week I was being born and I for instance never met my father, let alone > grandparents and great-grands. It's only this year that I ever even spoke > with any Millers, on the phone with my uncle. > So indeed, you might well be a big help. > What I know: Samuel D. MILLER was listed on the 1880 census as a > carpenter, born NY c. 1838, wife Amanda born MD, c. 1842, son Eugene born c. > 1867. Also in the house is Faney GIBBS, whose name I take to be some variant > on Frances, born MD circa 1807. I suspect she's Amanda's parent, but I have > so far been unable to trace any of these people beyond knowing of Eugene as my > great-grandfather. > Some CORLE's lived down the street from these MILLER's in 1880, listed on > the next census page. My Rosetta is not there at that house though. > Rosetta, the family ( Uncle ) says, was born in Ireland. On the 1910 > Miracode, she is said to have been born in PA in about 1870. At that time, > 1910, Eugene and she and Larry Irwin, their son, lived in Schuykill county. I > found no information for Samuel D. Amanda may be listed in 1910 as a > seamstress or dressmaker. Larry has a sister, according to the family, Isobel > or Isabell or a variant spelling. I have found no trace of her. > Larry later lived in Newberry, Lycoming county. He died in Kansas City > though and I don't know where he's buried, probably KC. The others would > probably be buried in PA. > Do you think you could go looking for them? In a cemetery, I mean. I > haven't ordered birth or death certificates because except for Larry Irwin, I > don't have exact years, and for him, not an exact place of death, just a > probable. > If your local cemetery runs to MILLER's and CORLE's both, maybe mine will > be there and, as you say, Rosetta could be the link. > Do PLEASE write again. > > Good hunting always, > Ashley > > Jmak777@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Ashley, > > I'm researching Millers also. I found a graveyard in Montgomery Pa. with > > some of my Millers. There was also some Corle's there. The lot was jointly > > owned by Millers and Corles. I have been trying to find the connection > > between them. Maybe it's your Rosetta. > > Montgomery is in Clinton Twp. Lycoming County. > > Let me know if I can help you. I live in Lycoming Co. > > God Bless, > > Kathryn Yoder Cowher > > Williamsport Pa. >

Hi, Kathy. I don't think I talked to you before but I apologize if I did. Who are your Eysters and where are they from? Tammie

Good Morning Eldred ! Thanks for the information. My GGrandfather was Rees (Reese) H. BROWER. His obit from the Gazette & Bulletin states he bacame a lineman in 1863, a fireman in 1870 and an engineer in 1873, retiring in 1909 with pension. Helen Yoss at the JV Brown Library is sending me the complete article which should add more information, I hope. I have 2 photgraphs which show him beside and inside engine #1690..which is a double hump with light in front of the smoke stack. I have contacted numerous RR sites trying to identify which RR he worked for...and am leaning towards the Readiing...which ran many of the lines into Williamsport. But, as you know, anything is possible ! Several years ago, I tried to obtain a copy of Meginness, (at the time they were in the process of the reprint). I will order the Meginness reprint...I am a member of LCGS, so I will contact them soon. I appreciate your offer. If they are out of the book, I may take you up on the offer of photocopies. Thanks again....I will keep in touch. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: Ewa728@aol.com To: Ron Beaman Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: Railroad of Williamsport Kay, I do not remember what I sent you before concerning the railroad, but Meginness History of Lycoming County does mention the Advent of Railroads pgs 324 - 326 .............. The Jersey Shore, Pine Creek and Buffalo railroad, now known as the Fall Brook, was opened to Williamsport, June 4, 1883. It unites with the Fall Brook at Jersey Shore Junction and runs into Williamsport over its tracks. ............... If you are a little more specific by giving me name of ggrandfather or the Rail Road line, I could look a little farther for you. Or if you like I could copy from the book and send it to you by snail mail. Best wishes, Eldred

Thanks for the information. K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Buck" <gbuck@sunlink.net> To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: RE: Meginness History of Lycoming County Att: Ron Beaman > History of Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, 1892, by John Meginness, reprint > of 1892 ed., 1200 pgs hardcover $88.00 + p&h $4.50 > > GEB>(-----Original Message----- > GEB>(From: Mary Kies [mailto:kies@netins.net] > GEB>(Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:47 PM > GEB>(To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com > GEB>(Subject: Re: Meginness History of Lycoming County Att: Ron Beaman > GEB>( > GEB>( > GEB>(how much is a copy? > GEB>(----- Original Message ----- > GEB>(From: "Gary Buck" <gbuck@sunlink.net> > GEB>(To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> > GEB>(Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:08 PM > GEB>(Subject: RE: Meginness History of Lycoming County Att: Ron Beaman > GEB>( > GEB>( > GEB>(> The History of Lycoming Co. can be purchased from the Lycoming County > GEB>(> Genealogical Society. > GEB>(> We just reprinted 100 copies > GEB>(> > GEB>(> Lycoming County Genealogical Society > GEB>(> P.O. Box 3625, Williamsport, PA 17701-3625 > GEB>(> E-mail: LCGSgen@aol.com > GEB>(> Internet Address: http://members.aol.com/LCGSgen/lcgs.htm > GEB>(> > GEB>(> Gary Buck LCGS newsletter editor > GEB>(> > GEB>(> GEB>(-----Original Message----- > GEB>(> GEB>(From: Kevin R. Phillips [mailto:KevinRPhillips@prodigy.net] > GEB>(> GEB>(Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:36 PM > GEB>(> GEB>(To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com > GEB>(> GEB>(Subject: RE: Meginness History of Lycoming County Att: > GEB>(Ron Beaman > GEB>(> GEB>( > GEB>(> GEB>( > GEB>(> GEB>(I believe that "The Sullivan Review" in Dushore sells copies of > GEB>(these. > GEB>(> GEB>( > GEB>(> GEB>(They can be reached at: > GEB>(> GEB>( > GEB>(> GEB>(The Sullivan Review > GEB>(> GEB>(PO Box 305 > GEB>(> GEB>(Dushore, PA 18614 > GEB>(> GEB>(570-928-8403 or 570-928-8136 > GEB>(> GEB>( > GEB>(> GEB>(Kevin > GEB>(> GEB>( > GEB>(> GEB>(-----Original Message----- > GEB>(> GEB>(From: Wswmtree@aol.com [mailto:Wswmtree@aol.com] > GEB>(> GEB>(Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:14 PM > GEB>(> GEB>(To: PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com > GEB>(> GEB>(Subject: Re: Meginness History of Lycoming County Att: > GEB>(Ron Beaman > GEB>(> GEB>( > GEB>(> GEB>( > GEB>(> GEB>(There were a series of books out in the seventies > GEB>(covering Lumbering > GEB>(> GEB>(Sawmills > GEB>(> GEB>(and railroad put out by Taber. Printed by Reed Hann > GEB>(Litho-- Logging > GEB>(> GEB>(Railroad > GEB>(> GEB>(Era of Lumberimg Era > GEB>(> GEB>( There are reprints but I don't know who might carry them now. > GEB>(> GEB>( #4 "Sunset Along the Susquehanna Waters? covers the area of > GEB>(> GEB>(Williamsport, > GEB>(> GEB>(Leetonia, Slate Run,Cammalm Glenn Union, Gleasonton. > GEB>(> GEB>(If you can get one of these it may help you in your search > GEB>(> GEB>( > GEB>( >

Nancy....your message has a virus in it...run a virus check on your system. My McAfee detected the virus when I attempted to open the file you attached. K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Winner" <webfot@earthlink.net> To: <rbeaman@kc.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Meginness History of Lycoming County 'Ron Beaman' wrote: ==== - Eldred...is there anything in the Meginnes book regarding the railroads - coming through Williamsport, circa 1880 thru 1900? - My GGrandfather was an engineer on one of them. I believe we have - communicated regarding this before...but, I have not seen the Meginness - book. thanks Kay - ----- Original Message ----- - From: <Ewa728@aol.com> - To: <PALYCOMI-L@rootsweb.com> - Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:11 PM - Subject: Warren Martin - - - > Trudy, - > - > - ...' > Take a look to the attachment.

Kathy, WRAK / WRKK 1559 West Fourth Street Williamsport PA 17701 570.327.1400 Try: www.wrak.com/news.html I used: www.google.com Typed in WRAK radio and then clicked on the search button. If you just type in WRAK, it will be difficult for most of us to read. I also used www.google.com to find the information on the Harrisburger Hotel. By clicking on "I'm feeling Lucky" you will get the head chef and a delicious recipe for crab cakes. Most of the other information that you are seeking can be found the same way. I have found by asking the question or inquiry several different ways, I get a few different answers. There will be thousands of responses. Best wishes, Eldred

Harrisburg is in Dauphin county,

>The value of the book is priceless as I use mine all the time. It makes for >very interesting reading. I usually don't like to advertise, but, regardless >of the price of the book, it should be in your library, if the folks were >connected to Lycoming County. I agree whole-heartedly! When I first received the book (it's huge) I was disappointed because it didn't provide an immediate solution to any of my brick walls. However, the longer I've had it the more I realize its value. I am having to use more "round-about" methods for finding out where my John Fisher came from. He appears to have been plunked into Lycoming County circa 1814 by space aliens or possibly as part of a witness protection program. As I sort through what I can find out about his life, I am creating a list of co-conspirators in his plot to confound his descendants (i.e. business associates, neighbors, in-laws, distant relatives, etc.). Meginess has been great for researching all these people and providing history and background about the area. One caution about the book: be careful when reading it in bed!! I pulled a muscle in my shoulder by trying to read it at an odd angle and was sore for days. Julianne Fishell

I am wondering if the WRAK radio station in Williamsport, PA is still in operation. If so or if not, does anyone out there have a photo of the station taken in the early 1950's? This was where my mother worked. Also, what county is Harrisburg in? I would also like to know if there is anyone who has information on the Harrisburg Hotel or Harrisburger Hotel. My parents' 5oth anniv. is this Dec, and I'd like to find memorabilia or possibly even a copy of the register for their stay their on their way to the rest of their honeymoon in D.C. Even a copy of the ad for the hotel in a directory would be helpful. They stayed there on Dec. 19, 1951. My siblings and I are working on a memory album for their anniversary. Thanks in advance for any information. Kathy Researching primarily N I C E L Y, B R O W N E L L, and M A Y N A R D families of Williamsport, PA but also N I C H O LS, P A R S O N S, E Y S T E R, O Y S T E R, K N E I S E L, F O X, and Mc W I L L I A M S of Lycoming and Northumberland counties of PA

Good grief! Good heavens! Finally...finally someone reacts to these names. Wonderful Kathryn, Thank you so much for writing. I would be delighted if my MILLER's are yours too. What I did not put in the posting is that my parents divorced the week I was being born and I for instance never met my father, let alone grandparents and great-grands. It's only this year that I ever even spoke with any Millers, on the phone with my uncle. So indeed, you might well be a big help. What I know: Samuel D. MILLER was listed on the 1880 census as a carpenter, born NY c. 1838, wife Amanda born MD, c. 1842, son Eugene born c. 1867. Also in the house is Faney GIBBS, whose name I take to be some variant on Frances, born MD circa 1807. I suspect she's Amanda's parent, but I have so far been unable to trace any of these people beyond knowing of Eugene as my great-grandfather. Some CORLE's lived down the street from these MILLER's in 1880, listed on the next census page. My Rosetta is not there at that house though. Rosetta, the family ( Uncle ) says, was born in Ireland. On the 1910 Miracode, she is said to have been born in PA in about 1870. At that time, 1910, Eugene and she and Larry Irwin, their son, lived in Schuykill county. I found no information for Samuel D. Amanda may be listed in 1910 as a seamstress or dressmaker. Larry has a sister, according to the family, Isobel or Isabell or a variant spelling. I have found no trace of her. Larry later lived in Newberry, Lycoming county. He died in Kansas City though and I don't know where he's buried, probably KC. The others would probably be buried in PA. Do you think you could go looking for them? In a cemetery, I mean. I haven't ordered birth or death certificates because except for Larry Irwin, I don't have exact years, and for him, not an exact place of death, just a probable. If your local cemetery runs to MILLER's and CORLE's both, maybe mine will be there and, as you say, Rosetta could be the link. Do PLEASE write again. Good hunting always, Ashley Jmak777@aol.com wrote: > Hi Ashley, > I'm researching Millers also. I found a graveyard in Montgomery Pa. with > some of my Millers. There was also some Corle's there. The lot was jointly > owned by Millers and Corles. I have been trying to find the connection > between them. Maybe it's your Rosetta. > Montgomery is in Clinton Twp. Lycoming County. > Let me know if I can help you. I live in Lycoming Co. > God Bless, > Kathryn Yoder Cowher > Williamsport Pa.

The value of the book is priceless as I use mine all the time. It makes for very interesting reading. I usually don't like to advertise, but, regardless of the price of the book, it should be in your library, if the folks were connected to Lycoming County. It is interesting to note, that pieces of Lycoming County were taken from the surrounding counties, therefore this book becomes more of a history than just Lycoming Co. Good hunting of ancestors to all, Eldred