David, Thank you for all the information you have looked up! Here is the story: The John Hannis you found is NOT mine! We thought so for years! Unfortunately it didn't work out. My John Hannis was murdered by a neighbor as they were fighting over a fence! I have the newspaper clipping - it was in 1847 - and he was killed by a Croop (haven't figured if he is realated to me yet). In the newspaper article it stated that his wife had died the winter before. So I figure that she may have died in childbirth or shortly after the last child was born (Susan). We had always heard that John Hannis died in a fight over a horse or a fence! I put a notice on here a few years back. A year went by and suddenly I got an e-mail from someone named "Pat" who sent me the newspaper article. Interestingly, it only took a couple of months for the trial to be over and Mr. Croop got 7 years! I could never find Adam either - he went to live with an uncle I think but don't know for sure. James Polk and Elizabeth went with their grandmother and Susan went with one of her mother's sister. I'll be happy to send you any and all information about my John Hannis if you think you would like it. Just let me know. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lear" <dlear@epix.net> To: <paluzern@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [PALUZERN] HANNIS-BELLES > Karen, > > I don't have anything specific on the ancestry of John Hannis, but Henry > Blackman Plumb in his "History of Hanover Township" has the following on > the Hannis family. > > John Hannis came to Hanover before 1796 from Connecticut; lived on the > River Road; owned part of Lot No. 2, First Division of Hanover in 1802; > married Sarah Horton, sister of > Miller Horton; moved to a house near the Ashley crossroad on Lot No. 7, > First Division; died in Hanover. They had: > William, went West in 1849 > George, went West in 1849 > Josiah, went West in 1849 > John, went West in 1849, m. ? Steele > Harry, went to Pike Co., PA > Hannah, m. Jacob Deterick > Jane, m. Isaac Frederick > Polly, m. John E. Inman. > > This could be the family of your John. Are you sure of his date of death? > Or could your John have gone "West in 1849" with a second wife whose name > was ? Steele? > > These burials are in the Newport Cemetery. > > Hannis, Freas E, son of A&E Hannis, d. 1 July 1869, 10 mo > Elizabeth, wife of Adam, 15 Nov 1843-20 Apr 1878 > Theresia, dau of A&E, d. 30 Nov 1867, 8 mo 11 dy > Hilderbert H. d. 13 Sep 1877, 2 yr 1 m 6 dy > > I found no Hannis burials in the Hanover Green Cemetery. > > I found the following record on a Silvius family message board. > > Charles Barrall b. 27 Aur [sic] 1854 Moore, North..d. 1929 Nanticoke, > Luzerne, Pa m. (1) 16 Mar 1877 Monroe Co, Pa Mary Louise Steen div. 31 May > 1892 (b.15 Jun 1855 d.29 Mar > 1896)d/o Jame & Huldah ( ) Steen m. (2) abt 1892 Susan Hannis (b.22 Jan > 1847 Luzerne, Pa d. 2 Oct 1912 Nanticoke, Luzerne)d/o John & Susan > (Belles) Hannis m. (3) Emma Jane > Louden(b. abt 1865 d. aft 1955 Luzerne) d/o Thomas & Sarah (Liedick) > Louden > > You have a death date of 1897 for Susan Hannis. This record has 1912. > Did she have a previous marriage? > > In the 1850 census James [5] and Elizabeth [8] were living in Newport > Township with their maternal grandmother Elizabeth Belles. I found no > census record for Adam Hannis until > 1870 when he was living in Dorrance Township with his wife Elizabeth and > two sons, Leander [7] and George W. [5]. > > I did not find Susan Hannis in the 1850 census either. > > By 1880 Adam had moved to Ashley. He was then widowed and had five > children: Leander [17], William [15], Harry [9], Nora [7] and James [5]. > Also in the household were Effa > Wilcox, housekeeper, divorced, and her daughter Annie [8]. > > In 1900 Adam was still living in Ashley, he had married his housekeeper > and they had a son Henry who was born in July 1889. > > Did Elizabeth Hannis marry and have a family? > > I am interested in learning more about this family, particularly, the > first few generations of the descendants of John Hannis and Susan Belles. > > David > > Karen Herndon wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> Thanks for the reply! At least I have one thing right, I have Adam >> Belles >> born 1790! I'm hoping to get some information on Susan Belles's husband, >> John Hannis, that is the line I'm following - John Hannis is my Brick >> Wall! >> Know anything about John Hannis? >> >> Karen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Lear" <dlear@epix.net> >> To: <paluzern@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:02 AM >> Subject: Re: [PALUZERN] HANNIS-BELLES >> >> > Hi Karen, >> > >> > What information in particular are you looking for? I have a >> > considerable >> > amount of information on the Belles family. Neither my wife nor I are >> > Belles descendants, but we both >> > have connections to the Belles family. >> > >> > Brian mentioned the difference in Adam's date of birth between the >> > church >> > record and the tombstone record. I believe that Adam was born in 1790, >> > not >> > in 1789, for two reasons: >> > 1. His baptismal record gives his birthdate as 12 November 1790 and >> > that is the record which is closest to the date of the actual event. >> > 2. A 12 November 1789 birth date would mean that he was born less >> > than >> > eight months after his brother Peter, which is highly unlikely. >> > >> > Larry mentioned an Adam Belles in Buck Township. That was Abram Belles >> > and he does have a biography in Bradsby. >> > >> > Let me know what you are looking for and I will bet back to you. >> > >> > David >> > >> > Karen Herndon wrote: >> > >> >> I am reposting my family names hoping there is someone new out there >> >> who >> >> is tracing the same family. Below are the names: >> >> >> >> John Hannis (1810-1847) married Susan Belles (1816-1847) >> >> Children: Adam (1838-1906), Elizabeth (1842-?), James Polk >> >> (1845-1913) >> >> and Susan (1847-1897). >> >> >> >> Adam Belles (1788-1843) married Elizabeth Croop (1790-1873). >> >> >> >> Karen Hannis Herndon >> >> karenherndon@cccomm.net >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> PALUZERN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > PALUZERN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALUZERN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALUZERN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >