Donny, One of us is on the wrong track here. I got to thinking, and remember your first note to the group, quoted below: --------------------------------------------- So, using your info, as far back as I can go: Ellen Tobitha Green and "Barrantine" - Barrantine ran off and Dock Palmertree adopted: Delbert Palmertree Delbert had three children, one of which was Hubert Delbert Palmertree Hubert Delbert had Robert Palmertree He has 4 sons- Bobby, Billy, Tommy, and Donny Palmertree - me (You'd think we were f/ MS with those names right?). -------------------------------------------- I remembered I have you and your family in my genealogy database and looked at it tonight. This is how I have your family tree. If I am on the wrong track, do let me know. (And if this is right, you and I share the same ancestry of William Andrew Jackson "Buck" Palmertree and Francis Ann "Kit" Parkerson.) I'll be working backwards through your ancestry. Donny James Palmertree (self) Robert Ray and Rebecca Jane Britt Palmertree (parents) Donald G. and Margaret ? Palmertree (grandparents) Upton Thurman and Velma Clyde Gordon Palmertree (great-grandparents) James J. "Jimmie" and Ida Jeanita Gibson Palmertree (great-great-grandparents) W.A.J. and Frances Ann Parkerson Palmertree (great-great-great-grandparents) Was your grandfather Donald G. Palmertree? I collected most of the information on your father's family from Texas records, so I may have a connection wrong. Let me know. Ken