Janie, have you tried one of those pull up knee pad things that have the hole right in front? I got by with wearing those on my knees during stressful times, holidays etc when I was on my feet a lot. They really helped for a long long time before I had to give it up and get one knee replaced and the next year the other one. I was working at a library in Tech Services at that time and chose to sub for the delivery guy when he was off. One other person got to go with me and we were out of the stuffy office all day and on our own and had lunch in neat places in the towns where the libraries for our system were, but getting in and out of that van wasn't the best thing for my hips and knees. and I thought I was young then. ha So good luck with your knees. Your hog killing time reminded me of another thing I lost when someone was "helping" me with my computer. I lost almost all of my stories and stories I had written and never sent anyone, one was a long one that I had done so much research on about hog killing. Mom and Dad had four little girls and kept us in the dark about a lot of things like hog killing. We only heard the squeals and got to eat the meat, not sure at that age we put the two together. If Mom could have kept us from hearing the squeals she would have! I wonder if you could write to one of those columns where people ask those kinds of questions - if anyone has a photo of that old wooden school bus. That would be something to see. The schools there may have something. Try it, can't hurt! What I am looking for was a poster for the Silver Queen. It was in Pauls Valley, OK. My dad was in a country and western band that played there. I remember seeing the posters around about the Silver Queen and the band playing there when I was a younger teen but not since. Dad was in a flash fire at the refinery in our hometown and the doctors said he would never play the fiddle or guitar and certainly not a bass fiddle but he did get those poor ol fingers to fiddling and playing the guitar. Must have been painful at first but that music was too much a part of him to give it up. We've always laughed that he was a farmer but played in a band to make some money. That trip sounds neat. I need to look up Ft Davis on a map. My folks all live in NE Texas mostly and a few scattered out across Texas. Some dear cousins live in Midland. If you call Basil, maybe he can tell you the what he was telling about Granthams and Harrisons. Good to hear from the line again. Nova . In a message dated 10/19/2011 8:51:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Don't forget my mother was a Grantham. I have quite a bit on that history. The Longs around Eaufla(all of a sudden I forgot how to spell it), OK are relatives as well. I have been busy at home trying to help my son sort merchandise for the store. I am dead tired from that. Had to go back to doctor this week with bad knee. It has been giving me fits and hurts so bad at time I just want to cry. Doctor told me to go to Orthopedic doctor since the shot he put in knee last week didn't seem to help. I hurts up above knee, calf of my leg and down to instep sometime. Amanda & family spent last week at their "new Ranch" way out at Fort Davis TX in the mountains. I am sure I had a Grantham relative that went to Fort Davis and died there. Soon as I have time I will check into it and get her to look at cemeteries on her next trip. She said something about flying me to Fort Worth and taking me with them on their next trip. Rocky still has two more weeks vacation to take. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PTREE] Granthams and Harrisons ?? Peggy, maybe someone else will know those names. Granthams and Harrisons & can fill in the story for us. Tell Basil he needs to just write these things down on paper than you can put them on here. He just knows too many things that is going to waste in his brain, things that we would all love to know, we will just have to pry it out of him. I remember all that hog killing, making cracklings, scraping intestines for sausage casings, chittlings, etc. They made some kind of liver loaf with the souse but I don't remember what it was called. I remember taking a cold biscuit, poking a hole in it with my finger and putting syrup in the hole for a snack after school. When I was small my daddy drove a school bus which was crudely constructed out of wood on a flat bed truck. It had benches for seats. Wish I had a picture of that. My granddaddy Grantham made syrup for quite a few people. If I could get to the place where he was cooking the syrup he would give me a glass of cane juice which was so good. I am too tired to think so will go for now. Janie Ask him if he heard his Dad telling old stories. Ask him how they celebrated Christmas if his dad ever talked about it and all that kind of stuff. If they cooked any unusual food that we don't cook today. The only different food things I can remember us eating, well not me but the grownups were the strange things at hog-killing time. like the lights, and all that. Man, that Cracklin' Bread was good, even if I wouldn't eat the fat soft Cracklins' after they cooked in the cornbread. But my Dad would eat those for me. ha Don't even mention Souse? to me. I thought that stuff was awful. We live somewhat close to a lake and we get stray dogs. Not so many lately. I think lots of cougars are coming into this area, pictures on those hunting cameras and people spotting them. I was hurrying somewhere earlier this year, there was a young one that had been hit by a car, when I came back by, it was completely gone, I bet it was just stunned or someone got it for the pelt. Nothing could have dragged it off where it was, a hill etc. The people behind us with the horses, walked out behind their barn and a cougar was standing there, it didn't run off, it lay down and looked at them. I've got to ask her if they killed it. we are getting way too many around here & they are getting too familiar with humans. That can cause problems I sure don't want. On the news we saw a video of a cross bow deer hunter who was in Rush Springs OK. hunting (about an hour west of here) he shot and killed a 764 lb wild hog. He had a deer in his sight and the deer bolted like lightening and he wondered why because he thought a cow was walking thru the weeds, when it came out of the tall weeks it was a big hog. He shot it once with his bow, it kept coming towards his tree and he shot it again and it fell, he thought it was dead, as he was getting down from his tree stand he snapped a limb and it made a loud noise and that hog jumped up and ran at him and he shot it again through both lungs he said and was jumping for the tree again when it lumbered past him and fell dead. The news showed it laying on the ground and hanging from some farm loader or something. He described it as looking like a farm animal but having small tusks. My expert hunting guide told me that a farm hog that gets loose young, that genetics will cause his tusks to start growing if he is in the woods long. I need to research that. but he has been right about every thing else I've ever asked him about. If you want to see this monster look for Rush Springs, OK and 764 lb hog. That should find it. Boy, that is one pig I don't want to run across in the woods. I have cousins etc that live & hunt in that area all the time. But there are too many of those wild hogs around and the farmers WANT them gone! John our son went hunting for them once and the one he got, the part of the meat that we cooked out here was so good, tender & tasty that we laughed asking him if it had a Blue Ribbon hanging on it when he saw it. Gotta go. Peggy get to nagging Basil about writing down his stories. Tell him I said he is being stingy with his stories. ha Later Nova In a message dated 10/19/2011 6:15:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Glad you can get out & run. Een when I was in high school, I tried out for basketball & I turn my ankle ever time. Since I've md. I've stepped in holes & turn my ankles. Now I have fallen arches, spurs & old arthur in both feet. I've been to a feet dr. & all he wanted to talk about was my weight. I didn't go to him to tell me I was to big. So I haven't been back to see him. Nova, you have the horses visiting & We have stray dogs. Basil won't shot at them, just to scare them away. They are starving to death. I don't know whose dogs they are, but wish someone would take them & keep them. Four are weiner dogs & 1 bigger dog. Anyone around who wants some dogs, come for a visit & I'll give them too you, if they are in my yard. Be my luck, someone would turn out some more. Basil was talking about some Grantham's-Harrison's & someone else. I just looked at him, since I didn't know who he was talking about. One man was call Red & he had moved to Chicago. I know that don't help you. He really gets me confuse if I don't know the person he is talking about. So this is all I can talk about, so it's someone else turn. Peggy ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:56 PM Subject: [PTREE] Hi Friends..... Anyone out there World? What has everyone been doing? I've just been limping along with one bad foot. But it doesn't keep me down. Might have it operated next Jan. I don't want to be housebound when it is fall weather like it is now. Couldn't decide whether to have it worked on or not but guess I need to do it. I don't trust that they can fix it. I've been doing damage to that left foot longer than these doctors have been alive. ha No always, I remember in the seventies a bag boy at the commissary let me go first and then ran the cart onto my heel down the ramp. Wow, it hurt but now can't remember if that was the left heel or not, but just things like that. Haven't walked in front of a grocery cart since. I'm either pushing it or behind the one pushing it. Hurt it once, beating a cocky little grandson to first base. He didn't think Gma Nova would/could take off that fast to beat him to first base. Boy, did he get a surprise! so I did, hit a cow's foot hole or a gopher hole on the way. We had stuffed grass into some garbage bags to make bases and was hitting the ball. He was a really good kid but John was working the whole weekend and Curt had gotten tired of doing the same old things so we were playing baseball in the field behind our house. I think like Burt Reynolds when he asked some old prisoner, who had hit the warden or someone in a game, Was it worth it? Yeah I thought it was at the time. ha Another time on the 4th of July I was chasing the neighbors horses or brumbies as I like to call them across the yard to head em off at the pass rather our driveway behind our house out to the blacktop road where cars and pickups go by like the devil is chasing them. But I was heading across the front of the yard and I got there in time to scare them back towards their place. BUT some neighbors dog barked and here came four huge horses galloping fast up the lane towards me and Goldie my dog, she was just barking like mad. They were going to have to run over me to get to that black top road, they would have surely killed some family driving by. I've heard stories of those long legs going thru windows and windshields into the car and them still maybe kicking. awful. But Thank God they came to a grinding halt right before they got to me and Goldie, turned and ran back past that dog and into their own yard and another neighbor walked over and was putting them in a pen. We let their horses graze on some of our back field and when Joe had gotten his 46 Ford Coupe out of the pole barn down there he had not fastened the wire tight enough and feeding over the fence, one horse just pushed it loose and they got out. I finished cooking for the big dinner with a bag of ice on my ankle covered with a red bandanna, the kids who came for dinner and homemade ice cream teased me saying they thought I had joined a gang!! The culprit who caused all this drove up about dinner time, all innocent like, as he said he thought he fastened the wire just fine. NOT!! I like to say "chasing the brumbies" from one of my all time favorite movies Man From Snowy River. When you hear her scream and see where she is, it always takes my breath away. Plus those real mountain men's code was how it used to be when I was growing up. A man's word or handshake was his bond. and the finishing touch to this ankle was last summer at a beautiful wedding on the beach in Calif. I was going down a little hill of sand and my ankle pulled or something and it's been bad since. Have to just pick and choose the shoes I wear as to how they suit this ankle. But going to the "Affair of the Heart" Friday. I went once yrs ago and just remember lacey photo albums but sure there is much much more to see. Got a plan!! I am going to push Mom's old transporter (like a wheelchair but less bulky, it has to be pushed by someone else.) with my and Beverly's purses/drinks in it until I have to sit down. She wants me to go with her and this is the only way. Maybe I can scramble along with my feet like the ladies in the living center.Ha At first I said No Way. But being with Beverly will be fun and worth it. Well, has every bit of Palmertree info and lore been discussed on here? Peggy, I wish you would get Basil talking and take notes and put them on here. I would love that. Is there anyone who remembers any thing at all about Thomas Andrew P'tree who went to Texas along with his future wife Lementine Dean's folks. They married after they got to Texas, he died of pneumonia the next year and left her a young widow pg with my Grandfather Thomas Henry P'tree. She later married a Triggo and a Scarbrough but never had but the one son. I think a couple of grown step children with Scarbrough. She was such a sweet person and totally beloved by her nieces and nephews in Texas. Two of them named their little girls Lementine Tiney after her. Tiney was just a nickname, she was a petite lady. I spoke to one of these girls one time and wrote a couple of notes, she was living in Georgia and elderly back then. I miss all you cousins etc talking on the line. 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