Thanks for posting this Peggy, I met Joyce the same way,, she was so helpful in her days at the library,,, Now we can be thankful for Ann, she is the same way.... I am very sorry to hear of Joyce's passing... ed B -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Palmertree Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PTREE] death For the folks on line that as been to the Kosciusko Library several years back, & a lady name Mrs. Joyce Sanders was working in research, has died. She was working there when I first started back in the early '80's. Old arthur got the best of her & she had to retire. I had talked with her about a year ago or less & her mind was even better than mind. I've always said I wish I know half as much as Mrs. Joyce, about research. She was a very dear person that loved everyone & would help everyone who came in to do research. Peggy ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    For the folks on line that as been to the Kosciusko Library several years back, & a lady name Mrs. Joyce Sanders was working in research, has died.  She was working there when I first started back in the early '80's.   Old arthur got the best of her & she had to retire.  I had talked with her about a year ago or less & her mind was even better than mind.  I've always said I wish I know half as much as Mrs. Joyce, about research.  She was a very dear person that loved everyone & would help everyone who came in to do research.    Peggy

Most of you may have seen this before. *A little history most people don't know*. Interesting Veterans Statistics off the Vietnam Memorial Wall "Carved on these walls is the story of America , of a continuing quest to preserve both Democracy and decency, and to protect a national treasure that we call the American dream." ~President George Bush SOMETHING to think about - Most of the surviving Parents are now Deceased. There are 58,267 names now listed on that polished black wall, including those added in 2010. The names are arranged in the order in which they were taken from us by date and within each date the names are alphabetized. It is hard to believe it is 36 years since the last casualties. Beginning at the apex on panel 1E and going out to the end of the East wall, appearing to recede into the earth (numbered 70E - May 25, 1968), then resuming at the end of the West wall, as the wall emerges from the earth (numbered 70W - continuing May 25, 1968) and ending with a date in 1975. Thus the war's beginning and end meet. The war is complete, coming full circle, yet broken by the earth that bounds the angle's open side and contained within the earth itself. The first known casualty was Richard B. Fitzgibbon, of North Weymouth , Mass. Listed by the U.S. Department of Defense as having been killed on June 8, 1956 His name is listed on the Wall with that of his son, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, who was killed on Sept. 7, 1965. There are three sets of fathers and sons on the Wall. 39,996 on the Wall were just 22 or younger. 8,283 were just 19 years old. The largest age group, 33,103 were 18 years old. 12 soldiers on the Wall were 17 years old. 5 soldiers on the Wall were 16 years old. One soldier, PFC Dan Bullock was 15 years old. 997 soldiers were killed on their first day in Vietnam . 1,448 soldiers were killed on their last day in Vietnam . 31 sets of brothers are on the Wall. Thirty one sets of parents lost two of their sons. 54 soldiers on attended Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia . I wonder why so many from one school. 8 Women are on the Wall. Nursing the wounded. 244 soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War; 153 of them are on the Wall. Beallsville, Ohio with a population of 475 lost 6 of her sons. West Virginia had the highest casualty rate per capita in the nation. There are 711 West Virginians on the Wall. The Marines of Morenci - They led some of the scrappiest high school football and basketball teams that the little Arizona copper town of Morenci (pop. 5,058) had ever known and cheered. They enjoyed roaring beer busts. In quieter moments, they rode horses along the Coronado Trail, stalked deer in the Apache National Forest . And in the patriotic camaraderie typical of Morenci's mining families, the nine graduates of Morenci High enlisted as a group in the Marine Corps. Their service began on Independence Day, 1966. Only 3 returned home. The Buddies of Midvale - LeRoy Tafoya, Jimmy Martinez, Tom Gonzales were all boyhood friends and lived on three consecutive streets in Midvale, Utah on Fifth, Sixth and Seventh avenues. They lived only a few yards apart. They played ball at the adjacent sandlot ball field. And they all went to Vietnam . In a span of 16 dark days in late 1967, all three would be killed. LeRoy was killed on Wednesday, Nov. 22, the fourth anniversary of John F. Kennedy's assassination. Jimmy died less than 24 hours later on Thanksgiving Day. Tom was shot dead assaulting the enemy on Dec. 7, Pearl HarborRemembrance Day. The most casualty deaths for a single day was on January 31, 1968 ~ 245 deaths. The most casualty deaths for a single month was May 1968 - 2,415 casualties were incurred. For most Americans who read this they will only see the numbers that the Vietnam War created. To those of us who survived the war, and to the families of those who did not, we see the faces, we feel the pain that these numbers created. We are, until we too pass away, haunted with these numbers, because they were our friends, fathers, husbands, wives, sons and daughters. There are no noble wars, just noble warriors. -- Donna Kay Cross Griffin

        Oliver Funeral Home Winona, Ms. Oct 21, 2011   Dorothy Clark Hobson April 23, 1919--Oct. 20, 2011   Funeral services for Dorothy Clark Hobson of Starkville will be at 2:00 p.m. on Monday, Oct. 24, at Kilmichael Methodist Church in Kilmichael, with burial to follow in the Friendship Cemetery in Kilmichael.   Rev. Barbara Lott & Rev. William Johnson will officiate the services.   A visitation will be held at the church on Monday from Noon until 2:00 p.m.   Mrs. Hobson died of heart failure at her residence, Oct. 20, 2011.  She was 92 years old.   Mrs. Hobson was the daughter of the late Isaac Smith & Eva Mansker Clark, & the widow of the late Karl V. Hobson.   She graduated from MSCW & earned a Master's degree from Oklahoma State university.  She was a retired college professer at Washington State University. Mrs. Hobson was a member of the First Methodist Church in Starkville.   In addition to her parents & husband, Mrs. Hobson was preceded in death by 3 sisters, Almira Clark, Maud Rogers Ruth Clark Rogers Grimes  & 3 brothers, Robert Ernest Clark, James Colon Clark & William Edwin Clark.   Survivors include her step children & several nieces & nephews.

      Oliver Funeral Home Winona, Miss. Oct. 23, 2011   Evelyn Cooke Bailey Vaiden, Ms. April 12, 1928--Oct. 21, 2011   Evelyn Self Cooke Bailey, 83, passed away on Friday, Oct. 21, 2011 form Heart failure.  Visitation will be Monday evening from 5 until 8 p.m. at Oliver Funeral Home in Winona.  Funeral services will be held Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2011 from the Chapel of Oliver Funeral Home with burial to follow at the Midway Cemetery in Carroll County. Rev. Phillip McRae & Rev. Leon Holly will officiate the services.   Mrs. Bailey was born April 12, 1928, in Vaiden to the late David & Ava Frances Self. She was a hard worker, an evid gardener & Braves fan.  Mrs. Bailey will be remembered as a loving mother, grandmother, & great grandmother.   She is survived by her husband, J.B. Bailey;  3 daughters, Jean Stewart of Vaiden, Judy Allen of Atlanta, Ga., Sandra Welch o Vaiden; 1 son, Wayne Cooke of Vaiden;  1 sister, Christine Sanders of Southaven; 1 brother, John Self of Pensacola, Fla., 7 grandchildren, Angela Stewart, Amanda Holly, Stefanay Allen, Britt Allen, Tamara Welch, Ron Welch & Johnson Cooke II; 3 great grandchildren, Maddie Smith, Carson Holly & Bailey Holly & serveral nieces & nephews.   Along with her parents, she was preceded in death by her first husband, Johnson Cooke;  brother, Roscoe Self; & sister Josie Moorhead.

I just found out that Beverly Shea Walker Marshal passed away today of a heart attack. She is the daughter of the Late Billy Walker and is survived by her Mother Anne and brother Paul. Also son, daughter and grandkids. Her Grandmother was Mamie Dell Varner Walker. She lived in ARK and when I find the obit I will forward it on Deb (her cousin my mom and her dad were brother and sister)

I forgot to say they were related to Greenwood Leflore. I'll check and see what I have as I know I have several generations back. -----Original Message----- From: Jeannine K Smith Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PTREE] Granthams and Harrisons ?? Nova, I'll take you up on that. I'll have to get you the info this weekend. Thanks. Jeannine Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, [email protected] wrote: > Jeannine I have a cousin down by Broken Bow who does genealogy, is there > anything she might look up for you? I'm sure she wouldn't mind. Nova > > > In a message dated 10/20/2011 9:29:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Janie, > > What can you tell us/me about the Longs of OK? One of my Lorenzo Dow > Long's sons moved to OK with his family, but I think it was Broken Bow??? > I've had a terrible time tracing the Longs. They lived over near > Hebron/Bethesda then moved over to Berea in Attala COunty. Before they > came to Montgomery county they must have lived on Mars as I can't find > any > records of them! > > Jeannine > > > Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith > > > ------------------------------- > Visit the Palmertree Family History website at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Visit the Palmertree Family History website at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My great aunt married Forbus Long from Choctaw Co. He was full blooded Indian. Sometime (I have exact dates but won't look them up unless you want them) around 1900 they moved to OKLA to get land grant on Indian Reservation or somewhere. They lived there the rest of their life. Her name was Lummie Grantham, my grandmother's sister. They had about 5 or more children. Josie, (I'll have to look others up. Makes me so mad I can't remember as I know them all. Oh yes, One was Travis Bowie Long. He i s still living I think. They lived around Eufaula and are buried there. If you want the whole thing I will send e-mail attachment on the family. Let me know. -----Original Message----- From: Jeannine K Smith Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PTREE] Granthams and Harrisons ?? Janie, What can you tell us/me about the Longs of OK? One of my Lorenzo Dow Long's sons moved to OK with his family, but I think it was Broken Bow??? I've had a terrible time tracing the Longs. They lived over near Hebron/Bethesda then moved over to Berea in Attala COunty. Before they came to Montgomery county they must have lived on Mars as I can't find any records of them! Jeannine Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peggy, little girls like you usually get their pigtails dipped in the ink well. No, that was even before my time. ha The rules: We don't mention Thanksgiving until after Halloween and we don't decorate for Christmas until after Thanksgiving. Those are the rules!! Well, maybe those used to be Wynnewood rules but not true even there now, some people leave their lights up all year and some leave their tree up. I like the look of transforming the house, if stuff was up all year, it wouldn't be much fun to just flip a switch. But Boy, I don't wait long after Thanksgiving to decorate for Xmas, if I can I like to do it the weekend after Thanksgiving. For one thing, two of my kids and grandkids have gone back to NM or Calif. and getting all that Xmas stuff out sure helps keep the blues away, oh, any quiet moment they flit across my mind but the work does help. And then after the house is decorated I feel much more like Xmas shopping and cooking and freezing and the many thingsI have to do. and having people over. I like to get it all out the night before and then the next morning put on a Chick Flick and watch that while I decorate the tree and house. I have the pre lit tree with mixed colored bulbs so that part is pretty simple. My stuff is getting old but I am so sentimental I can't toss much. I even have some that Mom used when I was a kid. When I am through, it is time for breakfast and the first time I decorated out here in the country,by the time I was through I was soooo hungry!! I looked in the fridge and the only thing that appealed to me was some Walmart Crab Salad/sometimes seafood salad. It is mostly seafood flavored pasta but I love it, and for breakfast I finish off the movie with the seafood salad eaten on Ritz Crackers and a cold diet Coke. ummmm! OK, see it's all your fault Peggy, I'm thinking about Christmas before Halloween. ha ha. Nova \ . In a message dated 10/20/2011 6:09:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I want to remind everyone little over 1 month is Thanksgiving & little over 8 weeks is Christmas. So get ready to start buying. Peggy ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    I want to remind everyone little over 1 month is Thanksgiving & little over 8 weeks is Christmas.   So get ready to start buying.  Peggy

Nova, You know he won't  even write out a check, must less write or type a story.  So I'll have to cut the tv off so he can understand me   Daddy would kill hogs, but not around Christmas.  I remember turkey & dressing, sweet potatoes & veggies.  Pecan Pies & sweet potato pie, chocolate Cake, & lot of home made candy.   I can't make the candy but I can't eat it either.  Peggy ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:13 PM Subject: [PTREE] Granthams and Harrisons ?? Peggy, maybe someone else will know those names. Granthams and  Harrisons & can fill in the story for us.  Tell Basil he  needs to just write these things down on paper than you can put them on here. He  just knows too many things that is going to waste in his brain, things  that we would all love to know, we will just have to pry it out of  him.  Ask him if he heard his Dad telling old stories. Ask him how they  celebrated Christmas if his dad ever talked about it and all that kind of  stuff.  If they cooked any unusual food that we don't cook today. The only  different food things I can remember us eating, well not me but the grownups  were the strange things at hog-killing time. like the lights, and all  that.  Man, that Cracklin' Bread was good, even if I wouldn't eat the fat  soft Cracklins' after they cooked in the cornbread. But my Dad would eat those  for me. ha  Don't even mention Souse? to me. I thought that stuff was  awful. We live somewhat close to a lake and we get stray dogs. Not so many lately. I think lots of cougars are coming into this area, pictures on those hunting  cameras and people spotting them. I was hurrying somewhere earlier this  year, there was a young one that had been hit by a car, when I came back by, it  was completely gone, I bet it was just stunned or someone got it for the  pelt. Nothing could have dragged it off where it was, a hill etc. The  people behind us with the horses, walked out behind their barn and a cougar was  standing there, it didn't run off, it lay down and looked at them.  I've got to ask her if they killed it. we are getting way too many around  here & they are getting too familiar with humans. That can cause  problems I sure don't want. On the news we saw a video of a cross bow deer hunter who was in Rush  Springs OK. hunting (about an hour west of here) he shot and killed a 764 lb  wild hog. He had a deer in his sight and the deer bolted like lightening and he  wondered why because he thought a cow was walking thru the weeds, when it came  out of the tall weeks it was a big hog. He shot it once with his bow, it kept  coming towards his tree and he shot it again and it fell, he thought it was  dead, as he was getting down from his tree stand he snapped a limb and it made a  loud noise and that hog jumped up and ran at him and he shot it again through  both lungs he said and was jumping for the tree again when it lumbered past him  and fell dead. The news showed it laying on the ground and hanging from some  farm loader or something. He described it as looking like a farm animal  but having small tusks. My expert hunting guide told me that a farm hog  that gets loose young, that genetics will cause his tusks to start growing  if he is in the woods long.  I need to research that.  but he has been  right about every thing else I've ever asked him about. If you want to see this monster look for Rush Springs, OK and 764 lb  hog. That should find it. Boy, that is one pig I don't want to run across in the woods. I have  cousins etc that live & hunt in that area all the time. But there are too many of those wild  hogs around and the farmers WANT them gone! John our son went hunting for them once and the one he got, the part of the meat that we cooked out here was so good, tender & tasty that we  laughed asking him if it had a Blue Ribbon hanging on it when he saw it. Gotta go.  Peggy get to nagging Basil about writing down his  stories. Tell him I said he is being stingy with his  stories. ha      Later Nova  In a message dated 10/19/2011 6:15:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  [email protected] writes: Glad you  can get out & run.  Een when I was in high school, I tried out for  basketball & I turn my ankle ever time.  Since I've md. I've stepped  in holes & turn my ankles.  Now I have fallen arches, spurs & old  arthur in both feet.  I've been to a feet dr. & all he wanted  to talk about was my weight.  I didn't go to him to tell me I was to  big.  So I haven't been back to see him. Nova, you have the  horses visiting & We have stray dogs.  Basil won't shot at them, just  to scare them away.  They are starving to death.  I don't know whose  dogs they are, but wish someone would take them & keep them.  Four are weiner dogs & 1 bigger dog.  Anyone around who wants  some dogs, come for a visit & I'll give them too you, if they are in my  yard.  Be my luck, someone would turn out some  more. Basil was talking about some Grantham's-Harrison's &  someone else.  I just looked at him, since I didn't know who he was  talking about.  One man was call Red & he had moved to Chicago.  I know that don't help you.  He really gets me confuse if I don't  know the person he is talking about. So this is all I can talk  about, so it's someone else turn.  Peggy ________________________________ From:  "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To:  [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:56  PM Subject: [PTREE] Hi Friends..... Anyone out there World?  What has everyone been  doing?  I've just been  limping along with one bad foot. But it doesn't keep me down. Might have  it operated next Jan. I don't want to be housebound when it is fall  weather like it is now. Couldn't decide whether to have it worked on or not  but guess I need to do it. I don't trust that they can fix it. I've  been doing damage to that left foot  longer than these doctors have  been alive. ha  No always, I remember in the  seventies a bag  boy at the commissary let me go first and then ran the cart onto  my  heel down the ramp. Wow, it hurt but now can't remember if that was the  left  heel or not, but just things like that. Haven't walked in front  of a grocery  cart since.  I'm either pushing it or behind the one  pushing it. Hurt it once, beating a cocky little grandson to first  base. He didn't  think Gma Nova would/could take off that fast to  beat him to first base. Boy,  did he get a surprise! so I did, hit a  cow's foot hole or a gopher  hole on the way. We had stuffed grass  into some garbage bags to make bases and  was hitting the ball. He  was a really good kid but John was working the whole  weekend and  Curt had gotten tired of doing the same old things so we were  playing baseball in the field behind our house.  I think like  Burt Reynolds when he asked some old prisoner, who had  hit the  warden or someone in a game, Was it worth it?  Yeah I thought it  was at the time. ha Another time on the 4th of July I was chasing  the neighbors horses or  brumbies as I like to call them across the  yard to head em off at the pass rather our driveway behind our house  out to the blacktop road where cars and  pickups go by like the devil  is chasing them. But I was heading across the front  of the yard and  I got there in time to scare them back towards their place. BUT  some  neighbors dog barked and here came four huge horses galloping fast  up  the lane towards me and Goldie my dog, she was just barking like  mad. They  were going to have to run over me to get to that black top  road, they would have  surely killed some family driving by.  I've heard stories of those long  legs going thru windows and  windshields into the car and them still maybe  kicking. awful. But  Thank God they came to a grinding halt right before they got to me and   Goldie, turned and ran back past that dog and into their own yard and  another  neighbor walked over and was putting them in a  pen. We let their horses graze on some of our back field and when Joe  had gotten his 46 Ford Coupe out of the pole barn down there he had not  fastened the wire  tight enough and feeding over the fence, one horse  just pushed it loose and they  got out. I finished cooking for  the big dinner with a bag of ice on my ankle covered with a red bandanna,  the kids who came for dinner and homemade ice cream  teased me saying  they thought I had joined a gang!! The culprit who caused all this drove up  about dinner time, all innocent  like, as he said he thought he  fastened the wire just fine. NOT!! I like to say "chasing the brumbies"  from one of my all time favorite  movies Man From Snowy River.  When you hear her scream and see where she  is, it always takes my  breath away. Plus those real mountain men's code was how  it used to  be when I was growing up. A man's word or handshake was his  bond. and the finishing touch to this ankle was last summer at a  beautiful  wedding on the beach in Calif. I was going down a little  hill of sand and my  ankle pulled or something and it's been bad  since. Have to just pick and choose the shoes I wear as to how they suit  this ankle. But going to the "Affair of the Heart" Friday. I went once  yrs ago and just remember lacey photo albums but sure there is much much  more to see. Got a plan!! I am going to push Mom's old transporter (like a  wheelchair but less  bulky, it has to be pushed by someone else.)  with my and Beverly's purses/drinks  in it until I have to sit down.  She wants me to go with her and this is the only  way.  Maybe I  can scramble along with my feet like the ladies in the  living  center.Ha  At first I said No Way. But being with Beverly will  be fun and worth it. Well, has every bit of Palmertree info and lore  been discussed on  here?  Peggy, I wish you would get Basil  talking and take notes and put  them on here. I would love  that. Is there anyone who remembers any thing at all about Thomas  Andrew P'tree  who went to Texas along with his future wife Lementine  Dean's folks. They  married after they got to Texas, he died of  pneumonia the next year and left her  a young widow pg with my  Grandfather Thomas Henry P'tree. She later married  a Triggo and a  Scarbrough but never had but the one son. I think a couple  of grown  step children with Scarbrough. She was such a sweet person and totally  beloved by her nieces and nephews in Texas. Two of them named their  little girls Lementine Tiney after her. Tiney was just a nickname, she  was  a petite lady. I spoke to one of these girls one time and  wrote  a couple of notes,  she was living in Georgia and elderly  back  then. I miss all you cousins etc talking on the line.  Nova ------------------------------- Visit the  Palmertree Family History website at  http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family  History website at  http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ed, yes it is much better here even with the sun out it is cool, but cool was not exactly one of the words I was thinking when I woke up freezing about 4:45 this morning. I has added a little extra cover but not near enough. AND didn't want to get out of bed to get anything else. When it turns it really turns!! I think one of those friendly cougars had been playing on our front porch. ha I did hear something out there. But I guess if the wind was blowing, the noise could have been Joe's swing. No, all the lights were on, you know if something moves the light comes on, and his porchswing doesn't cause it to come on. Wasn't that awful about that man turning all those dangerous wild animals loose, that was awful them having to be put down. I love animals too, but realize they could not wait til some one gently caught these animals but those crybabies must not have had kids that played outside and all that. Right now I wouldn't send a child out side here with out me along and I swear I don't know what I would do. Shake my finger at a cougar? Did you read or hear about that story in the news recently about the young Montana female horse wrangler and her horse Big Tonk charging at a charging grizzly bear who was trying to get around & past them to a little 8 yr old boy who had fallen off his horse in the confusion. The other few riders's horses had taken off quickly back to camp including the dad who could not turn his horse and the last thing he saw looking back as his horse fled, was the grizzly chasing his little boy on his horse. But the girl and Big Tonk were both shaking but charged right at the bear three times and finally drove him off. She had been leasing all the horses including Big Tonk from a place in Idaho, but she couldn't let him go back after that and bought him. She said she could feel him shaking but he went right at that bear every time. I need to look that up and see if there is a video. It said the horse was part quarter horse and Percheron (large draft horses.) I love this story!! When will the movie come out? and what slick race horse will play Big Tonk? Ha, that is how they do to people stories! Later, going to town to volunteer at the CCGS Library! Nova In a message dated 10/20/2011 11:11:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Peggy and Nova, I enjoyed reading your notes, I went grocery shopping this morning at the commissary... guess I will stay inside the rest of the day. it has turned a bit cold here last night and today. the wind is blowing hard and the air is cold, guess we are going to get an early winter.. Just like peggy like it.... Say Peggy in you obit searches if you see any family names of White please post them.. I recently found out that one of my Ferrell kin married into the White family from Yazoo, county Ms. according to their death dates a few of them died in the 1990's Hope your enjoying this cool air guess you have some in Ms. and Okla. too... Ed -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Palmertree Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PTREE] Grantham's I will get some paper & then ask Basil again about the Grantham's. It may be a few days before I get it all straight. Maybe enough to see if the Grantham's are any connection. Peggy ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peggy and Nova, I enjoyed reading your notes, I went grocery shopping this morning at the commissary... guess I will stay inside the rest of the day. it has turned a bit cold here last night and today. the wind is blowing hard and the air is cold, guess we are going to get an early winter.. Just like peggy like it.... Say Peggy in you obit searches if you see any family names of White please post them.. I recently found out that one of my Ferrell kin married into the White family from Yazoo, county Ms. according to their death dates a few of them died in the 1990's Hope your enjoying this cool air guess you have some in Ms. and Okla. too... Ed -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Palmertree Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PTREE] Grantham's I will get some paper & then ask Basil again about the Grantham's. It may be a few days before I get it all straight. Maybe enough to see if the Grantham's are any connection. Peggy ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeannine I have a cousin down by Broken Bow who does genealogy, is there anything she might look up for you? I'm sure she wouldn't mind. Nova In a message dated 10/20/2011 9:29:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Janie, What can you tell us/me about the Longs of OK? One of my Lorenzo Dow Long's sons moved to OK with his family, but I think it was Broken Bow??? I've had a terrible time tracing the Longs. They lived over near Hebron/Bethesda then moved over to Berea in Attala COunty. Before they came to Montgomery county they must have lived on Mars as I can't find any records of them! Jeannine Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peggy anything is possible!!!! Our family always told the the McClellans moved to Montgomery COunty because one of them stold a horse down in Holmes County and had to leave in a hurry. Never been able to confirm that, but sure have offended some distant cousins by asking about it! :) The Longs may have been the same way. The story there is that Lorenzo Dow Long's father (the man from Mars) remarried after LDL's mother died. New step-mother did not get along with the children and eventually ran them off. LDL married into the Best family (Buried at Bethseda) that line has been extensively researched. Obviously at some time the Longs HAD to have lived near the Best's for them to meet and marry but I can't find anything. Your outlaw theory is as good as any of the other's I've heard! Jeannine Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Peggy Palmertree wrote: > Jeannine, could the Lomg's been outlaws & they come to Montgomery Co. to hide?  Or they come to Montgomery Co. to be with the other outlaws       Just joking.  Peggy > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jeannine K Smith <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:27 AM > Subject: Re: [PTREE] Granthams and Harrisons ?? > > > > Janie, > > What can you tell us/me about the Longs of OK?  One of my Lorenzo Dow > Long's sons moved to OK with his family, but I think it was Broken Bow??? > I've had a terrible time tracing the Longs.  They lived over near > Hebron/Bethesda then moved over to Berea in Attala COunty.  Before they > came to Montgomery county they must have lived on Mars as I can't find any > records of them! > > Jeannine > > >                       Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith > > > ------------------------------- > Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nova, I'll take you up on that. I'll have to get you the info this weekend. Thanks. Jeannine Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, [email protected] wrote: > Jeannine I have a cousin down by Broken Bow who does genealogy, is there > anything she might look up for you? I'm sure she wouldn't mind. Nova > > > In a message dated 10/20/2011 9:29:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Janie, > > What can you tell us/me about the Longs of OK? One of my Lorenzo Dow > Long's sons moved to OK with his family, but I think it was Broken Bow??? > I've had a terrible time tracing the Longs. They lived over near > Hebron/Bethesda then moved over to Berea in Attala COunty. Before they > came to Montgomery county they must have lived on Mars as I can't find any > records of them! > > Jeannine > > > Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith > > > ------------------------------- > Visit the Palmertree Family History website at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Janie, What can you tell us/me about the Longs of OK? One of my Lorenzo Dow Long's sons moved to OK with his family, but I think it was Broken Bow??? I've had a terrible time tracing the Longs. They lived over near Hebron/Bethesda then moved over to Berea in Attala COunty. Before they came to Montgomery county they must have lived on Mars as I can't find any records of them! Jeannine Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith

Jeannine, could the Lomg's been outlaws & they come to Montgomery Co. to hide?  Or they come to Montgomery Co. to be with the other outlaws       Just joking.  Peggy ________________________________ From: Jeannine K Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [PTREE] Granthams and Harrisons ?? Janie, What can you tell us/me about the Longs of OK?  One of my Lorenzo Dow Long's sons moved to OK with his family, but I think it was Broken Bow??? I've had a terrible time tracing the Longs.  They lived over near Hebron/Bethesda then moved over to Berea in Attala COunty.  Before they came to Montgomery county they must have lived on Mars as I can't find any records of them! Jeannine                       Jeannine Kirkpatrick Smith ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peggy, I used to get my spiral notebook and ask Mom questions. I could tell she really liked to tell me those old stories but would tell me not to put certain parts in, that some neighbor that has been dead for 50 years cheated at dominoes and she would whisper that part. She was so funny and dear! When we were taking turns staying with her in her apt after Dad died, I would wait of a morning til she finished her one large cup of coffee and push the cup away. then I would say Grandmother! and she would say "Oh No, not that again". I had found a questionnaire for Grandmothers and I would ask her a few questions every morning. She got a kick out of it too. I never did it too long. Once to the question about some fancy gift she had received, she told how one of her brother's friends had visited and when he went home mailed her a gold watch. Her parents didn't think that was a suitable gift for a fourteen yr old girl and mailed it back, she said her mother wrote a nice note and showed it to her father and he said "That'll do." She said she had wanted so badly to wear it to school to show off in front of her friends. Another time about musical instruments, she said her mother when young had played the accordion and I got on the phone later and mentioned it to 2 or 3 close cousins on her side and they were as amazed as I was. But if I hadn't been going by the questions on that questionnaire I would not have even thought to ask those questions. I just thought this instant, I certainly hope I kept a printed copy of what we got done because that document is Gone With The Wind with my other stuff in those files. My computer did not crash, I asked this person to help because I thought they knew what they were doing. Wrong!! Well, going to go read a good book set in New Orleans one of my favorite towns to get my mind off that lost documents file. It's like wine drinkers talk, this book is to cleanse my palate before my next mystery book. Peggy Thanks for taking down Basil's stories and notes and the obits you do and keeping the line going. Wouldn't be the same with out you!! Nova In a message dated 10/19/2011 9:18:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I will get some paper & then ask Basil again about the Grantham's. It may be a few days before I get it all straight. Maybe enough to see if the Grantham's are any connection. Peggy ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janie, have you tried one of those pull up knee pad things that have the hole right in front? I got by with wearing those on my knees during stressful times, holidays etc when I was on my feet a lot. They really helped for a long long time before I had to give it up and get one knee replaced and the next year the other one. I was working at a library in Tech Services at that time and chose to sub for the delivery guy when he was off. One other person got to go with me and we were out of the stuffy office all day and on our own and had lunch in neat places in the towns where the libraries for our system were, but getting in and out of that van wasn't the best thing for my hips and knees. and I thought I was young then. ha So good luck with your knees. Your hog killing time reminded me of another thing I lost when someone was "helping" me with my computer. I lost almost all of my stories and stories I had written and never sent anyone, one was a long one that I had done so much research on about hog killing. Mom and Dad had four little girls and kept us in the dark about a lot of things like hog killing. We only heard the squeals and got to eat the meat, not sure at that age we put the two together. If Mom could have kept us from hearing the squeals she would have! I wonder if you could write to one of those columns where people ask those kinds of questions - if anyone has a photo of that old wooden school bus. That would be something to see. The schools there may have something. Try it, can't hurt! What I am looking for was a poster for the Silver Queen. It was in Pauls Valley, OK. My dad was in a country and western band that played there. I remember seeing the posters around about the Silver Queen and the band playing there when I was a younger teen but not since. Dad was in a flash fire at the refinery in our hometown and the doctors said he would never play the fiddle or guitar and certainly not a bass fiddle but he did get those poor ol fingers to fiddling and playing the guitar. Must have been painful at first but that music was too much a part of him to give it up. We've always laughed that he was a farmer but played in a band to make some money. That trip sounds neat. I need to look up Ft Davis on a map. My folks all live in NE Texas mostly and a few scattered out across Texas. Some dear cousins live in Midland. If you call Basil, maybe he can tell you the what he was telling about Granthams and Harrisons. Good to hear from the line again. Nova . In a message dated 10/19/2011 8:51:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Don't forget my mother was a Grantham. I have quite a bit on that history. The Longs around Eaufla(all of a sudden I forgot how to spell it), OK are relatives as well. I have been busy at home trying to help my son sort merchandise for the store. I am dead tired from that. Had to go back to doctor this week with bad knee. It has been giving me fits and hurts so bad at time I just want to cry. Doctor told me to go to Orthopedic doctor since the shot he put in knee last week didn't seem to help. I hurts up above knee, calf of my leg and down to instep sometime. Amanda & family spent last week at their "new Ranch" way out at Fort Davis TX in the mountains. I am sure I had a Grantham relative that went to Fort Davis and died there. Soon as I have time I will check into it and get her to look at cemeteries on her next trip. She said something about flying me to Fort Worth and taking me with them on their next trip. Rocky still has two more weeks vacation to take. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PTREE] Granthams and Harrisons ?? Peggy, maybe someone else will know those names. Granthams and Harrisons & can fill in the story for us. Tell Basil he needs to just write these things down on paper than you can put them on here. He just knows too many things that is going to waste in his brain, things that we would all love to know, we will just have to pry it out of him. I remember all that hog killing, making cracklings, scraping intestines for sausage casings, chittlings, etc. They made some kind of liver loaf with the souse but I don't remember what it was called. I remember taking a cold biscuit, poking a hole in it with my finger and putting syrup in the hole for a snack after school. When I was small my daddy drove a school bus which was crudely constructed out of wood on a flat bed truck. It had benches for seats. Wish I had a picture of that. My granddaddy Grantham made syrup for quite a few people. If I could get to the place where he was cooking the syrup he would give me a glass of cane juice which was so good. I am too tired to think so will go for now. Janie Ask him if he heard his Dad telling old stories. Ask him how they celebrated Christmas if his dad ever talked about it and all that kind of stuff. If they cooked any unusual food that we don't cook today. The only different food things I can remember us eating, well not me but the grownups were the strange things at hog-killing time. like the lights, and all that. Man, that Cracklin' Bread was good, even if I wouldn't eat the fat soft Cracklins' after they cooked in the cornbread. But my Dad would eat those for me. ha Don't even mention Souse? to me. I thought that stuff was awful. We live somewhat close to a lake and we get stray dogs. Not so many lately. I think lots of cougars are coming into this area, pictures on those hunting cameras and people spotting them. I was hurrying somewhere earlier this year, there was a young one that had been hit by a car, when I came back by, it was completely gone, I bet it was just stunned or someone got it for the pelt. Nothing could have dragged it off where it was, a hill etc. The people behind us with the horses, walked out behind their barn and a cougar was standing there, it didn't run off, it lay down and looked at them. I've got to ask her if they killed it. we are getting way too many around here & they are getting too familiar with humans. That can cause problems I sure don't want. On the news we saw a video of a cross bow deer hunter who was in Rush Springs OK. hunting (about an hour west of here) he shot and killed a 764 lb wild hog. He had a deer in his sight and the deer bolted like lightening and he wondered why because he thought a cow was walking thru the weeds, when it came out of the tall weeks it was a big hog. He shot it once with his bow, it kept coming towards his tree and he shot it again and it fell, he thought it was dead, as he was getting down from his tree stand he snapped a limb and it made a loud noise and that hog jumped up and ran at him and he shot it again through both lungs he said and was jumping for the tree again when it lumbered past him and fell dead. The news showed it laying on the ground and hanging from some farm loader or something. He described it as looking like a farm animal but having small tusks. My expert hunting guide told me that a farm hog that gets loose young, that genetics will cause his tusks to start growing if he is in the woods long. I need to research that. but he has been right about every thing else I've ever asked him about. If you want to see this monster look for Rush Springs, OK and 764 lb hog. That should find it. Boy, that is one pig I don't want to run across in the woods. I have cousins etc that live & hunt in that area all the time. But there are too many of those wild hogs around and the farmers WANT them gone! John our son went hunting for them once and the one he got, the part of the meat that we cooked out here was so good, tender & tasty that we laughed asking him if it had a Blue Ribbon hanging on it when he saw it. Gotta go. Peggy get to nagging Basil about writing down his stories. Tell him I said he is being stingy with his stories. ha Later Nova In a message dated 10/19/2011 6:15:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Glad you can get out & run. Een when I was in high school, I tried out for basketball & I turn my ankle ever time. Since I've md. I've stepped in holes & turn my ankles. Now I have fallen arches, spurs & old arthur in both feet. I've been to a feet dr. & all he wanted to talk about was my weight. I didn't go to him to tell me I was to big. So I haven't been back to see him. Nova, you have the horses visiting & We have stray dogs. Basil won't shot at them, just to scare them away. They are starving to death. I don't know whose dogs they are, but wish someone would take them & keep them. Four are weiner dogs & 1 bigger dog. Anyone around who wants some dogs, come for a visit & I'll give them too you, if they are in my yard. Be my luck, someone would turn out some more. Basil was talking about some Grantham's-Harrison's & someone else. I just looked at him, since I didn't know who he was talking about. One man was call Red & he had moved to Chicago. I know that don't help you. He really gets me confuse if I don't know the person he is talking about. So this is all I can talk about, so it's someone else turn. Peggy ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:56 PM Subject: [PTREE] Hi Friends..... Anyone out there World? What has everyone been doing? I've just been limping along with one bad foot. But it doesn't keep me down. Might have it operated next Jan. I don't want to be housebound when it is fall weather like it is now. Couldn't decide whether to have it worked on or not but guess I need to do it. I don't trust that they can fix it. I've been doing damage to that left foot longer than these doctors have been alive. ha No always, I remember in the seventies a bag boy at the commissary let me go first and then ran the cart onto my heel down the ramp. Wow, it hurt but now can't remember if that was the left heel or not, but just things like that. Haven't walked in front of a grocery cart since. I'm either pushing it or behind the one pushing it. Hurt it once, beating a cocky little grandson to first base. He didn't think Gma Nova would/could take off that fast to beat him to first base. Boy, did he get a surprise! so I did, hit a cow's foot hole or a gopher hole on the way. We had stuffed grass into some garbage bags to make bases and was hitting the ball. He was a really good kid but John was working the whole weekend and Curt had gotten tired of doing the same old things so we were playing baseball in the field behind our house. I think like Burt Reynolds when he asked some old prisoner, who had hit the warden or someone in a game, Was it worth it? Yeah I thought it was at the time. ha Another time on the 4th of July I was chasing the neighbors horses or brumbies as I like to call them across the yard to head em off at the pass rather our driveway behind our house out to the blacktop road where cars and pickups go by like the devil is chasing them. But I was heading across the front of the yard and I got there in time to scare them back towards their place. BUT some neighbors dog barked and here came four huge horses galloping fast up the lane towards me and Goldie my dog, she was just barking like mad. They were going to have to run over me to get to that black top road, they would have surely killed some family driving by. I've heard stories of those long legs going thru windows and windshields into the car and them still maybe kicking. awful. But Thank God they came to a grinding halt right before they got to me and Goldie, turned and ran back past that dog and into their own yard and another neighbor walked over and was putting them in a pen. We let their horses graze on some of our back field and when Joe had gotten his 46 Ford Coupe out of the pole barn down there he had not fastened the wire tight enough and feeding over the fence, one horse just pushed it loose and they got out. I finished cooking for the big dinner with a bag of ice on my ankle covered with a red bandanna, the kids who came for dinner and homemade ice cream teased me saying they thought I had joined a gang!! The culprit who caused all this drove up about dinner time, all innocent like, as he said he thought he fastened the wire just fine. NOT!! I like to say "chasing the brumbies" from one of my all time favorite movies Man From Snowy River. When you hear her scream and see where she is, it always takes my breath away. Plus those real mountain men's code was how it used to be when I was growing up. A man's word or handshake was his bond. and the finishing touch to this ankle was last summer at a beautiful wedding on the beach in Calif. I was going down a little hill of sand and my ankle pulled or something and it's been bad since. Have to just pick and choose the shoes I wear as to how they suit this ankle. But going to the "Affair of the Heart" Friday. I went once yrs ago and just remember lacey photo albums but sure there is much much more to see. Got a plan!! I am going to push Mom's old transporter (like a wheelchair but less bulky, it has to be pushed by someone else.) with my and Beverly's purses/drinks in it until I have to sit down. She wants me to go with her and this is the only way. Maybe I can scramble along with my feet like the ladies in the living center.Ha At first I said No Way. But being with Beverly will be fun and worth it. Well, has every bit of Palmertree info and lore been discussed on here? Peggy, I wish you would get Basil talking and take notes and put them on here. I would love that. Is there anyone who remembers any thing at all about Thomas Andrew P'tree who went to Texas along with his future wife Lementine Dean's folks. They married after they got to Texas, he died of pneumonia the next year and left her a young widow pg with my Grandfather Thomas Henry P'tree. She later married a Triggo and a Scarbrough but never had but the one son. I think a couple of grown step children with Scarbrough. She was such a sweet person and totally beloved by her nieces and nephews in Texas. Two of them named their little girls Lementine Tiney after her. Tiney was just a nickname, she was a petite lady. I spoke to one of these girls one time and wrote a couple of notes, she was living in Georgia and elderly back then. I miss all you cousins etc talking on the line. Nova ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Visit the Palmertree Family History website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~palmrtre/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message