Geri ---- Can you tell me the source of the Mill information in your note? Catharine Good (Guth) was the sister of Henry Good who married Susanna Ziegler. Susanna was the sister of my 4ggrandfather Daniel Ziegler who married Maria Leidy. Thanks Mike Ziegler -----Original Message----- From: palehigh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:palehigh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of geri brennan Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:26 AM To: palehigh@rootsweb.com; panortha@rootsweb.com Subject: [PALEHIGH] jacoby bucks co. history mill, george m. of buckingham twp., was born dec. 23. 1823 in durham twp. solomon mill, grandfather, married a miss deemer, children; tranther, who married a miss dean, john, george, and solomon. george mill, father, a member of the german fef. ch, he married catharine good, the had 11 children, two died in infancy, sarah, w/o samuel jacoby, catharine, w/o isaac jacoby, solomon g., george c., john c. magdalena w/o elroy loux, susanna, w/o isaac laubach, mary, w/o ely cauly and amanda, w/o samuel gahmen. george g. mill, married "miss madame barron", d/o jacob and susanna barron of bucks co. children, mary, 1852, married reuben kohl, emma, 1853, w/o joseph ruos, isaiah b. 1858, catharine, 1861, elmer, 1869 loux, john a. of pipersville, is a great-grandson of peter loux, who came to the twp., 1737 john, grandfather to john a., was born 1756. 15 years after his marriage he bought a farm in plumstead, where he died in 1830. he was twice married, 1st wf. a rosenberger, who was the widow of henry leatherman, (children, john, peter, abaham, and catharine), he married 2nd to a wisner, the widow of an augeney. she had one son moses. the father of john a., was peter, who died july 24, 1871 age 85. member of the old deep run mennonite ch. he was also married twice, 1s to rebecca artheholt, of nww brutaub twp., who died sept, 1834, he married 2nd anna overholt, she had one child, mary, w/o enos huntsberger. children of the 1st wf. anna, died young, samuel killed in 1847, christian, and john a., who was born nov. 19, 1815. he (john a.) was twice married, 1st may 30, 1841 hannah,d/o leonard jacoby, of hilltown. she was born dec 5, 1820 and died march 18, 1844, leaving one child, amanda, who was the wf of john f. raus. mr loux married 2nd to rachel, d/o john high of berks co. she was born feb 1, 1826. they had two children, william died young and emmiline, wf of daniel f. bennett, of shawneetown, monroe co., pa. vandergrift, theodore d. of eddington, was born in bensalem twp. dec. 24, 1822, s/o joseph j., and hannah (jacoby) vandergrift. jacpby, john, of new britain, was born in doylestoen, jan 2, 1829, s/o john, sr. and mary (shifler) jacoby, natives of bucks co. the jacoby family were among the early settlers of durham twp. the grandfather of subjct was a blacksmith by trae. the father of john was born in durham and moved to doylestown about 1820. he died in his 81st year. he was the father of 9 children, 3 are living, isaac, susan, w/o samuel haldeman and john of doylestown. he marrie march 2, 1852 to sarah clymer, d/o henry and hester (meredith). children; henry f., edwin, carri, mary and jenniie. members of the baptist ch. jacoby, o.s. of doylestown, was born in doylestown, dec, 1855, s/o peter and lydia a. (summers) jacoby. he married dec. 1879 to laura case and they had one child, edith m. members of the baptist ch. jacoby, enos, s. of sellersville, was born july 2, 1841, s/o amons jacoby who was born 1803. his wf. sophia springer born 1810. enos married 1862 to elisabeth b. fellman and they had 2 children; charles f. and mary emma. members of the ref. ch. april 3, 1832 john ott, bedminster twp. no widow, left 6 children, jacob, samuel h., isaac, elisabeth w/o leonard jacob, sarah, w/o christian snyder, john (deceased, children jonas and juliann) dec 13, 1831, john pope,springfield two. died about13 years ago. s-i-l, benjamin jacoby feb. 9, 1829, andrew overpeck, springfield twp. widow mary and children; jacob (lives in ohio), john, abraham, george, margaret, w/o george houpt, mary, w/o henry youngken, catharine, w/o adam hempshire, lived in n.y., lena (?), wf of jacob heckman, nancy, wf o andrew hickson, sarah, wf of ale (?0 jacoby sept 11, 1827 philip jacoby, hilltown twp. widow catharine and children, abraham, samuel, john, enos, mary w/o george sholl, hannah, w/o john snyder, susanna, w/o jacob friedley feb. 13, 1826, john jacoby, durham twp, widow maria and children; john, leonard, conrad, susanna, christina, hannah, elisabeth, mary, samuel, georg, lydia, anna, sarah, hester, last 4 minors. march 29, 18115, peter jacoby, durham twp. widow catharine, children, two under 14, samuel and susanna, john jacoby, guardian. son peter jr., over 14, jacob funk, guardian may 30, 1815, widow catharine and children, benjamin, john, elisabeth, w/o george hartman, mary, w/o jacob hartman, catharine, w/o frederick laubourgh, hannah, peter, samuel and susannah, minors may 29, daughter susanna over 14, christoper trauger, guardian sept 10, 1832 son samuel, over 14, george ovepeck, guardian Best Wishes, Geri ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail message checked by PC Tools Spyware Doctor (5.0.0.169) Database version: 5.06940 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/ E-mail message checked by PC Tools Spyware Doctor (5.0.0.169) Database version: 5.06940 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/

bucks co. history benjamin jacoby, s/o peter and catharine(landes) trauger) jacoby was born sept. 9. 1786. he was a mason by trade. in the fall of 1809 he married margaret landes, d/o samuel and susannah landes on sept 10, 1810, purchased a small farm in nockamixon where he lived for 6 years following his trade in the summer and teaching in the winter. he brought a farm of 90 acres two miles from frenchtown, n.j., where he lived till 1836 when he purchased the farm in sprinfield, adjoining the farm purchsed by his grandfather in 1798. the farm has remained in the family ever since, and is now the property of the subject henry sylvester jacob. here benjamin jacob lived there until the spring of 1839, when he rented the farm to his son peter l. jacoby, and moved to the village of springton, where died oct 29, 1850. he srv in the war of 1812. his wife margaret, died in 1827 and he married in 1829 margaret, d/o peter werst, who died sept 26, 1844, without issue. Best Wishes, Geri -----Original Message----- From: martha w. jackson Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:55 AM To: Geri Brennan Subject: The thought just ocurred to me Since Anna Maria KOCH was witnessing things along with Peter WERST, from 1761-1800+ there has to be relationship here. How old could she have been? Was she a young woman at that time, Sister of Peter? Grandmother? tWO OF THEM? Name is not carried in later generations. If we can pinpoint her, perhaps we can locate Peter WERST under whatever spelling he was.

northampton co. jacobi, jacob, 22 jan 1800 john and catharine, sp henry and margaret ohl beil, joseph 5 feb 1801 abraham and regina beil. sp john and dorothy beil christman, elisabeth24 feb 806 john and christina christman, susanna 11 aug 1809 john and christina koch, eva elisabeth 24 dc 1813, john and susanna, sp abraham and regina beil christman, anna 2 jan 1814 john and christman hess, hannah 22 april 1814, george and magdalena hess. sp john and dorothea beil christman, hannah, 12 may 1817 john and christina christman, christina 3 jan 1818 john and christina bachman, levi 1 feb 1819 christian and maria, sp abraham and regina beil christman, maria, 11 oct 1822, john and christina (illick) christman, aaron, 4 june 1826 john and christina bucks co. jacoby, maria 1 feb 1813 conrad and barbara jacoby, anna 13 jan 1813 john and maria jacoby, jaco 16 oct 1814, leonard and catharine jacoby, sarah 14 june 1815 john and maria jacoby, elisabeth 9 april 1816 leonard and catharine jacoby, esther, 21 march 1818 john and maria. sp catharine jacoby, widow jacoby, aaron, 6 aug 1818 conrad and barbara jacoy, benjamin 15 dec 1820 conrad and barbara jacoby, anna 15 feb 1811 benjamin and margaret jacoby, benjamin 29 may 1822 benjamin and margaret jacoby, henry 17 narcg 1823 conrad and barbara jacoby, john 8 april 1827 peter and sarah jacoby, catharine 23 april 1829 peter and sarah jacoby, edward 9 march 1831 peter and sarah jacoby, david 27 april 1833 peter and sarah jacoby, franklin 10 july 1832 john and catharine jacoby,, josiah franklin 16 april 1838 john and mary jacoby, mary ann 1 dec 1838 peter l. and barbara jacoby, francis 27 july 1839, samuel and julian jacoby,albina 6 july 1844 john and maria jacoby, william franklin, 15 sept 186 david and sarah jacoby, margaretha 1 april 1795-26 sept 1844 jacob, jacob franklin 23 dec 1849-18 dec 1860 jacoby, david 27 april 1833-17 nov 863 jacoby, mary 1776-1864 jacoby, elisabeth 27 may 1796-22 march 1878 jacoby, william f. 1862-1883 jacoby, elisabth 12 sept 1772, conrad and hanna, sp. elisabeth jacoby, grandmother jacoby, abraham, 23 nov 1781, philip and catharine, sp. ernst and catharine klinkert, grandparents jacobi,john george 3 may 1804 john and maria jacobi, samuel 12 may 1806 john and maria sp. john jacobi and elisabeth overbeck, single jacoby, catharine 8 nov 1808 john and maria, sp peter and catharine jacoby, christina nee raub 1761-1895, 1st wf of johann northampton co. 1841 april 4 john jacoby to elisabeth koenig 1839 sept 1 samuel keim to caroline jacoby 1836 jan 31 john jacoby to violetta coleman 1835 june 8 jacob jacoby to mary ann "belles" 1814 nov 30 jacob jjacoby, of willims age 90y 3m 1811 nov 13, jacob christman of saucon age 67y 2m 10d Best Wishes, Geri

No, but I have also seen it as Dillman. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jjsinatra " <jon@jjsinatracompany.com> To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] Proper name Tilghman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peg Shelly" <dpshelly@worldnet.att.net> > To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:12 AM > Subject: [PALEHIGH] Proper name Tilghman > > >> The proper name Tilghman was popular in the 1800's into the early 1900's >> in Bucks, Lehigh and Northampton Counties of PA. I have 14 relatives in >> my data base between 1830 and 1914 using this proper name. Does anyone >> know the history behind this proper name being used in eastern >> Pennsylvania? There is a Tilghman street in Allentown, PA. Was this a >> surname first and then a proper name? >> >> Any help appreciated, thank you. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Try Bell, as I think they pronouncd phonetically. ----- Original Message ----- From: <albert_wolff@bellsouth.net> To: <PALEHIGH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: [PALEHIGH] Marriage Record Info Beil - Mickley > Hello, > > I am looking for some help finding a marriage record for John Peter Beil, > of Allen Township, Northampton County, and Christina Mickley of Whitehall. > I think they were possibly married in the Egypt Reformed Church in 1825. > Any information of their children would be wonderful also. Thanks so much. > > Al Wolff > Knoxville, TN > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Michelle, Thank you so much for responding. My Grandmother was also a Beil. Her father was John P.F. Beil, the youngest son of John Peter Beil and Christina Mickley. My grandmother was the only daughter of John P.F. Beil's second wife. My focus right now is a birth record showing John P. F. Beil is definitively John P. Beil And Christina's son. I am 99.9% sure from the census records I have. I am very interested in sharing information. Please let me know what you are looking for and I will do what I can to help. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Albert Wolff > > From: Michelle Staff <shelly53538@yahoo.com> > Date: 2007/03/20 Tue PM 08:55:41 EST > To: palehigh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] Marriage Record Info Beil - Mickley > > Hi Al, > > I am a descendant of John Peter Beil and Christina Mickley, my grandmother was a Beil and was from Pennsylvania. In my file, I have they were married Sept 1825 in Lehigh Co. but I do not have a marriage record for them. When I started my research, I didn't understand how important citing sources was. I believe I got most of my from my mother's cousin. > > Anyway, I do have a lot of information on this family so if your interested please e-mail me at Shelly53538@yahoo.com and I will send you what I have. In addition, if you have any additional information that would be helpful to me. > > Michelle Staff > Janesville, WI > > albert_wolff@bellsouth.net wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for some help finding a marriage record for John Peter Beil, of Allen Township, Northampton County, and Christina Mickley of Whitehall. I think they were possibly married in the Egypt Reformed Church in 1825. Any information of their children would be wonderful also. Thanks so much. > > Al Wolff > Knoxville, TN > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Al, I am a descendant of John Peter Beil and Christina Mickley, my grandmother was a Beil and was from Pennsylvania. In my file, I have they were married Sept 1825 in Lehigh Co. but I do not have a marriage record for them. When I started my research, I didn't understand how important citing sources was. I believe I got most of my from my mother's cousin. Anyway, I do have a lot of information on this family so if your interested please e-mail me at Shelly53538@yahoo.com and I will send you what I have. In addition, if you have any additional information that would be helpful to me. Michelle Staff Janesville, WI albert_wolff@bellsouth.net wrote: Hello, I am looking for some help finding a marriage record for John Peter Beil, of Allen Township, Northampton County, and Christina Mickley of Whitehall. I think they were possibly married in the Egypt Reformed Church in 1825. Any information of their children would be wonderful also. Thanks so much. Al Wolff Knoxville, TN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

In the Egypt Reformed Records there are only 3 references to a Peter Beil and wife Christina. They were all as sponsors for baptisms of others: 1. Baptism of Maria Magdalena Ott. Dau of Benjamin Ott and wife Magdalena, b. 12/24/1777, bp. 1/25/1778. 2. Baptism of Christina Kern, dau of Joseph Kern and wife Hanna; b. 7/25/1825, bp. 9/18/1825. 3. Baptism of David Mickly, son of Joseph Mickly and wife Catharina; b. 9/1/1826, bp. 10/15/1826. Mike Ziegler http://www.mikeznv.com -----Original Message----- From: palehigh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:palehigh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of albert_wolff@bellsouth.net Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:44 AM To: PALEHIGH@rootsweb.com Subject: [PALEHIGH] Marriage Record Info Beil - Mickley Hello, I am looking for some help finding a marriage record for John Peter Beil, of Allen Township, Northampton County, and Christina Mickley of Whitehall. I think they were possibly married in the Egypt Reformed Church in 1825. Any information of their children would be wonderful also. Thanks so much. Al Wolff Knoxville, TN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

lehigh co kahl, maria catharine, 26 aug 1781, william and elisabeth-zion ref. allentown Best Wishes, Geri -----Original Message----- From: geri brennan Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:21 AM To: palehigh@rootsweb.com, panortha@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] Elizabeth Kale hi gordon, i found this. war of 1812 kail, henry, or henry koehl or henry kale, WC-15684, srv. capt. david clarkson's, pa. mil. kale, david or david cale kale, henry or henry koehl or henry kail, wf isabelle john or john kehl, WC-20105 srv. capt. peter hanley's and capt wentz. pa. mil william or william cale or cole. rev. war-service kail, michael or michael kabe, 3rd pal cale, william, 5th ps. gordon could another spelling be keil Best Wishes, Geri ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi gordon, i found this. war of 1812 kail, henry, or henry koehl or henry kale, WC-15684, srv. capt. david clarkson's, pa. mil. kale, david or david cale kale, henry or henry koehl or henry kail, wf isabelle john or john kehl, WC-20105 srv. capt. peter hanley's and capt wentz. pa. mil william or william cale or cole. rev. war-service kail, michael or michael kabe, 3rd pal cale, william, 5th ps. gordon could another spelling be keil Best Wishes, Geri

Hello, I am looking for some help finding a marriage record for John Peter Beil, of Allen Township, Northampton County, and Christina Mickley of Whitehall. I think they were possibly married in the Egypt Reformed Church in 1825. Any information of their children would be wonderful also. Thanks so much. Al Wolff Knoxville, TN

I always use soundex and go thru all the names that are found. Is that okay or should I do as you suggest? Thanks Gordon A. Koerner ----- Original Message ----- From: "martha w. jackson" <nattiejus@nctc.com> To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] Elizabeth Kale > Have you tried spelling it a different way? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Koerner" <judygak@ntelos.net> > To: "PALEHIGH-L" <PALEHIGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:36 AM > Subject: [PALEHIGH] Elizabeth Kale > > >> Would anyone have information on parents, grandparents of >> >> Elizabeth Kale, b.May 02, 1770; d.May 27, 1826 >> >> Who married Henry Gangwehr b.1765 >> >> Gordon A. Koerner >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At the end of this email is what I have pasted below, so you do not have to go to the end. >>> Subscribers to the Oath of Allegiance, Northampton Co., PA 1777-1784. >>> (Lehigh >>> Co. was part of Northampton Co. at this time.) >>> >>> SCHLOSSER, Peter - Aug. 6, 1777 - by Frederich Limbach, Justice of the >>> Peace >>> SHLOSSER, Conrad - Aug. 25, 1777 - by Jacob Horner, Justice of the Peace >>> SHLOSSER, John - Aug. 25, 1777 - by Jacob Horner, JP >>> SHLOSSER, Peter - Aug. 25, 1777 - Jacob Horner, JP >>> SHLOSSER, Peter - Aug. 25, 1777 - Jacob Horner, JP >>> SHLOSSER, Philip - Jan. 19, 1778 - by Frederich Limbach, JP >>> >>> Apparently the SHLOSSERS who gave their oath on Aug. 25, 1777 may be >>> related since they may have lived in the same area. My Peter >>> SHLOSSER/SCHOSSER is one of these men. He lived in Lower Milford >>> Twp., now Lehigh Co. Can anyone identify any of these men? >>> >>> Janet >>> >>> Also a reply back was from Janet is pasted below. Gordon, I don't know the age of my Peter Shlosser/Schlosser but the was alive and a widower in 1764. His wife Regina had died by 1764 which was the date of his father in law's will. Yes, you can join the DAR if your ancestor signed an oath of allegiance. They are considered a patriot when they sign the oath. Janet Gordon A. Koerner ----- Original Message ----- From: "martha w. jackson" <nattiejus@nctc.com> To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] Schlosser/Shlosser > What did he sign? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Koerner" <judygak@ntelos.net> > To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] Schlosser/Shlosser > > >> Below is the only record I have of a Peter in my line. His father Peter >> d.1752. >> >> Peter Schlosser, b.October 28, 1725 >> >> Since the father settled in Upper Milford, the son may have settled in >> Lower >> Milford. I would suppose there is not much other info then the signing. >> >> What does the signing mean? >> >> Does it mean since they signed some one could join the DAR or SAR listing >> them as their patriot? >> >> Gordon A. Koerner >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Researcher0071@aol.com> >> To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com>; <panortha@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 10:44 AM >> Subject: [PALEHIGH] Schlosser/Shlosser >> >> >>> Subscribers to the Oath of Allegiance, Northampton Co., PA 1777-1784. >>> (Lehigh >>> Co. was part of Northampton Co. at this time.) >>> >>> SCHLOSSER, Peter - Aug. 6, 1777 - by Frederich Limbach, Justice of the >>> Peace >>> SHLOSSER, Conrad - Aug. 25, 1777 - by Jacob Horner, Justice of the Peace >>> SHLOSSER, John - Aug. 25, 1777 - by Jacob Horner, JP >>> SHLOSSER, Peter - Aug. 25, 1777 - Jacob Horner, JP >>> SHLOSSER, Peter - Aug. 25, 1777 - Jacob Horner, JP >>> SHLOSSER, Philip - Jan. 19, 1778 - by Frederich Limbach, JP >>> >>> Apparently the SHLOSSERS who gave their oath on Aug. 25, 1777 may be >>> related since they may have lived in the same area. My Peter >>> SHLOSSER/SCHOSSER is one of these men. He lived in Lower Milford >>> Twp., now Lehigh Co. Can anyone identify any of these men? >>> >>> Janet >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************** AOL now offers free email to >>> everyone. >>> Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

And I deleted every one of them without even reading them. If I had known they were about something else, I might have read them. Listers, if you care enough about your message to get it read, give it a subject that relates to the content. Herb Ely On Mar 19, 2007, at 10:19 PM, Gordon Koerner wrote: > People keep hitting the reply button to my post of Gangwere/ > Schlosser but > they are not even writing about the subject. > > Bunch of laziness going on here of late. > > Gordon A. Koerner > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy" <judyd@shenhgts.net> > To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:43 PM > Subject: [PALEHIGH] Springfield Church > > >> >> >> "Where is the Springfield church in Saucon? I thought it was the >> one in >> Bucks >> Co." >> >> Hi Gordon, >> >> Springfield Church in Saucon #1, 920 Passer Rd., Coopersburg PA, >> 18036. >> Phone # 610-282-1834 >> >> Springfield Mennonite in Saucon, 1905 Pleasant View d., >> Coopersburg PA >> 18036. Phone # 610-346-8600 >> >> Coopersburg is above Quakertown and is divided by Rt. 309, this >> church is >> on >> the east side of Rt. 309 by a couple of miles. >> >> I notice a lot of quoteback material in the digest form for this list >> leading to numerous repeats of information from previous posts. We >> can >> clean >> up our replies to posts by simply posting by sending a reply to >> PALEHIGH@rootsweb.com instead of just hitting the reply button to >> the >> message received. You just have to change the subject line to >> reflect what >> you are replying to so it won't arrive back from the list in your >> e-mail >> with just PALEHIGH Digest (or List), Vol #, Issue # in the subject >> line. >> That would eliminate re-sending the attached previous posts to the >> list-digest. Just a thought to help keep the box-load down. >> >> Judy >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PALEHIGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Gordon, I agree with you but some people do this all the time. They don't seem to understand that it is to their advantage to put the proper subject in the subject line and that it is also annoying to other people who are following the subject. BTW, DAR has two Peter Slussers from PA, both have wife Elizabeth Catherine. Peter Sr., b. ca. 1730, d. p 5-28-1802, the other Peter, b. Before (ante) 1731, d. p 1790. Janet In a message dated 3/19/2007 9:19:58 PM Central Daylight Time, judygak@ntelos.net writes: People keep hitting the reply button to my post of Gangwere/Schlosser but they are not even writing about the subject. Bunch of laziness going on here of late. Gordon A. Koerner ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

What did he sign? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Koerner" <judygak@ntelos.net> To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] Schlosser/Shlosser > Below is the only record I have of a Peter in my line. His father Peter > d.1752. > > Peter Schlosser, b.October 28, 1725 > > Since the father settled in Upper Milford, the son may have settled in > Lower > Milford. I would suppose there is not much other info then the signing. > > What does the signing mean? > > Does it mean since they signed some one could join the DAR or SAR listing > them as their patriot? > > Gordon A. Koerner > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Researcher0071@aol.com> > To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com>; <panortha@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 10:44 AM > Subject: [PALEHIGH] Schlosser/Shlosser > > >> Subscribers to the Oath of Allegiance, Northampton Co., PA 1777-1784. >> (Lehigh >> Co. was part of Northampton Co. at this time.) >> >> SCHLOSSER, Peter - Aug. 6, 1777 - by Frederich Limbach, Justice of the >> Peace >> SHLOSSER, Conrad - Aug. 25, 1777 - by Jacob Horner, Justice of the Peace >> SHLOSSER, John - Aug. 25, 1777 - by Jacob Horner, JP >> SHLOSSER, Peter - Aug. 25, 1777 - Jacob Horner, JP >> SHLOSSER, Peter - Aug. 25, 1777 - Jacob Horner, JP >> SHLOSSER, Philip - Jan. 19, 1778 - by Frederich Limbach, JP >> >> Apparently the SHLOSSERS who gave their oath on Aug. 25, 1777 may be >> related since they may have lived in the same area. My Peter >> SHLOSSER/SCHOSSER is one of these men. He lived in Lower Milford >> Twp., now Lehigh Co. Can anyone identify any of these men? >> >> Janet >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** AOL now offers free email to >> everyone. >> Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Have you tried spelling it a different way? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Koerner" <judygak@ntelos.net> To: "PALEHIGH-L" <PALEHIGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:36 AM Subject: [PALEHIGH] Elizabeth Kale > Would anyone have information on parents, grandparents of > > Elizabeth Kale, b.May 02, 1770; d.May 27, 1826 > > Who married Henry Gangwehr b.1765 > > Gordon A. Koerner > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

People keep hitting the reply button to my post of Gangwere/Schlosser but they are not even writing about the subject. Bunch of laziness going on here of late. Gordon A. Koerner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <judyd@shenhgts.net> To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: [PALEHIGH] Springfield Church > > > "Where is the Springfield church in Saucon? I thought it was the one in > Bucks > Co." > > Hi Gordon, > > Springfield Church in Saucon #1, 920 Passer Rd., Coopersburg PA, 18036. > Phone # 610-282-1834 > > Springfield Mennonite in Saucon, 1905 Pleasant View d., Coopersburg PA > 18036. Phone # 610-346-8600 > > Coopersburg is above Quakertown and is divided by Rt. 309, this church is > on > the east side of Rt. 309 by a couple of miles. > > I notice a lot of quoteback material in the digest form for this list > leading to numerous repeats of information from previous posts. We can > clean > up our replies to posts by simply posting by sending a reply to > PALEHIGH@rootsweb.com instead of just hitting the reply button to the > message received. You just have to change the subject line to reflect what > you are replying to so it won't arrive back from the list in your e-mail > with just PALEHIGH Digest (or List), Vol #, Issue # in the subject line. > That would eliminate re-sending the attached previous posts to the > list-digest. Just a thought to help keep the box-load down. > > Judy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

"Where is the Springfield church in Saucon? I thought it was the one in Bucks Co." Hi Gordon, Springfield Church in Saucon #1, 920 Passer Rd., Coopersburg PA, 18036. Phone # 610-282-1834 Springfield Mennonite in Saucon, 1905 Pleasant View d., Coopersburg PA 18036. Phone # 610-346-8600 Coopersburg is above Quakertown and is divided by Rt. 309, this church is on the east side of Rt. 309 by a couple of miles. I notice a lot of quoteback material in the digest form for this list leading to numerous repeats of information from previous posts. We can clean up our replies to posts by simply posting by sending a reply to PALEHIGH@rootsweb.com instead of just hitting the reply button to the message received. You just have to change the subject line to reflect what you are replying to so it won't arrive back from the list in your e-mail with just PALEHIGH Digest (or List), Vol #, Issue # in the subject line. That would eliminate re-sending the attached previous posts to the list-digest. Just a thought to help keep the box-load down. Judy

Peter WERST, Magdelena, Andrew, Catherine and Tobias are all listed at Freidens Chu4ch. 1793/4. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Koerner" <judygak@ntelos.net> To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] GANGWERE and SCHLOSSER > > > Descendants of Hans Valentin Schlosser > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. HANS VALENTIN1 SCHLOSSER was born December 1664, and died January 27, > 1731/32 in Pleitzenhausen. He married (1) ANNA MARIA Abt. 1688 in > Pleitzenhausen. She died September 26, 1696 in Pleitzenhausen. He > married > (2) ANNA MARIA WERNER January 29, 1696/97 in Pleitzenhausen. She was born > 1672 in Reissweiler, and died February 15, 1738/39 in Pleitzenhausen. > > > > Children of HANS SCHLOSSER and ANNA MARIA are: > > i. MARGARETHA2 SCHLOSSER, b. Abt. 1688, > Pleitzenhausen. > > ii. MARIA SCHLOSSER, b. Abt. October 22, 1694, > Pleitzenhausen. > > iii. CATHERINA SCHLOSSER, b. Abt. 1695, Pleitzenhausen; > d. Abt. February 04, 1730/31. > > iv. MARIA EVA SCHLOSSER, b. Abt. February 05, 1695/96, > Pleitzenhausen. > > > > > > Children of HANS SCHLOSSER and ANNA WERNER are: > > 2. v. PETER2 SCHLOSSER, b. January 12, 1697/98, > Pleitzenhausen; d. 1752, Upper Milford Twsp, Lehigh Co, PA. > > vi. MARIA ELISABETHA SCHLOSSER, b. Abt. July 09, 1702, > Pleitzenhausen; d. December 05, 1762, Pleitzenhausen; m. PETER IMMIG, > October 06, 1723; b. Frohnhofen. > > > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > 2. PETER2 SCHLOSSER (HANS VALENTIN1) was born January 12, 1697/98 in > Pleitzenhausen, and died 1752 in Upper Milford Twsp, Lehigh Co, PA. He > married ANNA ELIZABETH MANES October 29, 1720 in Pleitzenhausen. She was > born 1697 in Horn/Simmern. > > > > Notes for PETER SCHLOSSER: > >>From the Book "The Bruner Brothers and Related Families" by Marilyn Miller > > > > > > > > THE SCHLOSSER'S FROM PLEITZENHAUSEN > > > > The family of Maria Eva Schlosser begins with her grandfather, Hans > Valentin > Schlosser. Hans was born in December of 1664 in Pleitzenhausen in the > Rhineland, soon after the end of the 30 Years War. Since most records in > Germany had been destroyed during this war, it was not possible to > research > the earlier members of the family. > > This was another very difficult family to put together since several Peter > Schlossers lived in the same area of Pennsylvania during the same time > period. Peter and Leonard Schlosser, who arrived in 1732 do not appear to > be > from our Schlosser family. There were two Peter Schlossers who arrived on > the ship Edinburg on Sept. 16, 1751. They were possibly father and son. > > In Roberts History of Lehigh County(101) I found that Peter Schlosser > applied for a patent in 1755 for 46 acres in Lower Milford Township. This > land was patented in 1875 by Thomas Schearer. However, a Peter Schlosser > is > on the 1781 Tax List for Lower Milford Township, and I believe that he is > Peter Schlosser,Jr. > > Peter Schlosser Sr.(II) died in 1752 and the administrlation papers for > his > estate were filed in Northampton County(102) on November 21, 1752. Peter > was > a cooper and his wife, Elizabeth gave up her right as administrator of his > estate to her son, Peter Jr. > > Based on the evidence, I concluded that Peter Jr.'s wife was named > Catharine > Elizabeth since Peter and Catharine Elizabeth were sponsors at the baptism > of Jacob and Maria Eva Gangwehr's son Peter. > > At this point we find a great deal of confusion with the women's names. > Maria Eva's mother was Anna Elizabeth, and her son Peter married a woman > named Catharine Elizabeth. This information is based on the above church > book entry. However, there is another Peter Schlosser in Whitehall Twp. > (probably a son of Leonhard), who was married to an Elizabeth Catharine. > Still another Peter Schlosser is married to a Maria Elizabeth. The result > was that I gave up trying to sort the families out and remained satisfied > that in Mary Eve's family we have the correct names. > > There is a long, detailed genealogy of the Schlosser Family at the Lehigh > County Historical Society, typed by Myron P. Wehr of Allentown, PA, March > 1, > 1983, but it relates to the families of the earlier Leonhardt and Peter. > He > does note that "Because of the confusion with first names and the lack of > records, it is difficult to confirm the early men and the dates. We will > therefore, list the information we have discovered, with comments as to > their alignment." Only the marriage of Maria Eva Schlosser and Jacob > Gangwehr, which appeared with this material, seems to apply to our > Schlossers. > > In Annette Burgert's "Northern Kraichau" she notes that Peter Schlosser of > Lower Milford Twp. was naturalized in 1765. This would have been the Peter > Jr. in our Schlosser family. > > The first two generations of the Schlosser family were researched from the > Pleitzenhausen church records in Germany.(103) > > The birth date of Maria Eva Schlosser was located among these > records. From this information our German researcher(104) was able to put > together her family and that of her grandparents. > > All existing church records for the period after the Schlossers arrived in > Milford Township were searched, but little information was found. These > included the Upper Milford Reformed Church in Zionsville, Lehigh County > and > the Chestnut Hill church in Milford Township. > > The records available in the Evangelical and Reformed Historical Society > library in Lancaster, Pennsylvania(105) were also searched. Most > information > on this family concerned descendants of Leonard and Peter. > > I was also unable to find the date that Maria Eva Schlosser Gangwehr Morry > died. None of the church records from the church she attended contained > information about her death. The information concerning what we know of > Maria Eva Schlosser's life has been included in the Addendum relating to > the > Gangwehr family. > > The dates of baptisms for Jacob and Maria Eva's children were obtained in > the Friedens Union Church, Upper Saucon, church records. > > > > 101.LDS Film 1000562 > > > > 102.Northampton County Administration File #73 > > > > 103.LDS Film #0492979 > > > > 104.Friedrich Wolf of Saarbrucken, Germany, searched LDS films to confirm > the family of Maria Eva Schlosser. > > > > 105.Unger Collection #330 Schlosser, in Evangelical Reformed Historical > Library, Lancaster, PA. > > > > > > > > > > Children of PETER SCHLOSSER and ANNA MANES are: > > 3. i. MARIA EVA3 SCHLOSSER, b. Abt. July 16, 1737, > Pleitzenhausen; d. Abt. 1817, Lehigh Co, Pa. > > ii. PETER SCHLOSSER, b. Abt. October 28, 1725, > Pleitzenhausen. > > iii. MARIA ELIZABETH SCHLOSSER, b. Abt. August 23, > 1722, > Pleitzenhausen. > > iv. ANNA MARGARETHA SCHLOSSER, b. Abt. November 28, > 1728, Pleitzenhausen. > > > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > > 3. MARIA EVA3 SCHLOSSER (PETER2, HANS VALENTIN1) was born Abt. July 16, > 1737 in Pleitzenhausen, and died Abt. 1817 in Lehigh Co, Pa. She married > (1) JACOB GANGWEHR March 28, 1758 in St. Paul's Lutheran "Blue Church", > son > of JACOB GANGWEHR and SUSANNA MARGARETA. He was born February 20, 1731/32 > in Lehigh Co, Pa., and died June 26, 1771 in Lehigh Co, Pa.. She married > (2) JACOB MOREY Abt. 1785. > > > > > > Notes for MARIA EVA SCHLOSSER: > > > >>From the book "The Bruner Brothers and Related Families" by Marilyn >>Miller. > > > > MARY EVE GANGWEHR MARRIES JACOB MORY > > > > Mary Eve Gangwehr married Jacob Mory (Morry, Mori, Morey) about 1785. > Jacob > was born in 1727 and died in 1793 at age 66 years, 4 months and ~ days. > His > death is recorded in the Great Swamp Church records . Jacob was the son of > William Morey who warranted land on Saucon Creek about 1735. He died about > 1764. His son, Jacob was a Justice of the Peace under the King in 1774 and > again under the new government. William Mory provided land for the first > German Lutheran and Reformed Church in the area. > > It is probably significant to note that Jacob Mory's will was probated > just > one month before the agreement with Mary Eve and her children. > > Jacob Mory made his will on July 5, 1775, before his marriage to Mary Eve. > On July 22, 1785 he added a codicil, so we have concluded that their > marriage occurred in 1785. > > His will gave four tracts of land (222 acres) in Upper Saucon to his son > William, and two tracts with 237 acres to his son Peter, and ordered them > to > pay the following amounts of cash to his other children: > > > > Susannah Catharine, wife of John Wind, ú 270 > > Sabela Christina, wife of John Lerch, ú 270 > > Rosina, wife of Jacob Jacoby, ú 340 after age 19 > > Jacob Morry (under 20), ú 540 at age 20 > > > > The codicil gave Mary Eve livestock, household utensils, a > stove and the privilege of staying in the house for 1 near after his > death. > Son Peter Mory was to cut and haul firewood and take care of the livestock > for her. The will was probated on March 5, 1793. > > In view of the conditions in Jacob Mory's will, and the agreement with > Henry > Gangwehr, it appears that Mary Eve probably went to live with her youngest > son, Jacob at the end of the year that she was permitted to live in the > Mory > home. > > I was delighted when I located a will for Mary Eve Mory in the Lehigh > County > Administration Records, File #185. It was "Exhibited" April 5, 1817 but > "Not > Acted Upon". Jacob Gangwehr was the administrator and the will is written > in > German. The reproduction was so poor that the lettering runs together and > it > was impossible to read it word for word. However, I managed to decipher > the > pertinent parts as follows: > > There was an Inventory of Goods and Chattels of Mary Eve Morry, widow late > of Lower Saucon Township, Lehigh County. It was filed on June 18, 1818. > The > will was dated August 1795, and Jacob Gangwehr was the administrator. The > estate totaled 151.90 pounds. Her children were listed as Peter Gangwehr, > Johan Jacob Gangwehr, Christina and Andrew Bruiser, and Catharine and > Abraham Bruiser. It is possible that Henry was also included, but I could > not read his name. > > In the accounting there was recorded the following amounts due to her > estate: > > > > Andrew Bruner, bond 15-8-0 > > Jacob Gangwehr, bond 16-7-11 > > Abraham Bruner, bond 45-4-0 > > Henry Gangwehr, 25-0-0 > > > > (These would be monetary amounts in pounds, shillings and pence.) It was > not > possible to form an opinion as to how these sums were determined. The > amount > owed by Abraham seems to indicate that he borrowed this sum from his > mother-in-law to purchase his land in Lycoming County. His wife's share of > the sale of Gangwehr land in 1793 provided additional funds. > > It was of interest to myself and the descendants of Abraham and Catharina > Gangwehr Bruner that apparently Mary Eve died the same year as her > daughter > Catharine and approximately at the same time. > > > > > > Notes for JACOB Gangwehr: > > The Blue Church Records lists a marriage date of 28 March 1758 for > Gangewehr, Jacob son of Jacob Gangewehr the elder, from Upper Saucon and > Maria Eva Schlosser. > > > > The intestate will of Jacob is in the Registar of Wills, Northampton Co. > NO.531. > > Maria signed off her right to administrator of the will. John Apple and > Phillip Baal were appointed on July 27, 1771. They placed the land in > trust > for 22 years. April 2, 1793 Maria and her four younger children agreed to > sell the land to the eldest son Henry. > > > > 96. Northampton County Deed Book A-2, pg 318 > > > > A will for Maria Eva Mory is in the Lehigh Co. Administration Records File > # > 185. It was listed April 5, 1817. The estate total 151.9 pounds sterling > > > > According the Marilyn Miller Jacob Jr. died intestate in 1771, > leaving a wife, four children and one unborn child: Henry, Peter, > Christina, Catharina and Johann Jacob. Jacob died without a will. Maria > Eva gave up her right as an administrator of the estate, soon after his > death. John Apple and Philip Baal were then appointed administraators. > The > placed the land in trust and managed the estate for 22 years. In the > meantime Maria Eva married Jacob Mory. The decision to not sell the land > , > saved Jacob's wife and children from the circumstances that caused > Heinrich > Bruner's heirs to lose much of their inheritance. Heinrrich's land was > sold and the money invested, but the Revolutionary war resulted in a > change > in the monetary system, and the loss of money as a result. In the > Northampton Co. Courthouse there is an agreement dated April 2, 1793 > between > Mary Eva and her four younger children to sell all of Jacob's property to > the eldest son Henry Gangwehr. Apparently, Johannes, the first born son, > whose birth is recorded in the Freidensville Reformed Church records, > Upper > Saucon, died before 1793, since he is not mentioned in this document. > > > > According to Marilyn Miller, Mary Eva's second husband was a > justice > of the peace under the King in 1774 and again under the new government. > William Mory provided land for the first German Lutheran and Reformed > Church > in the area. A will for Mary Eve Mory is in the Lehigh Co. Administration > Records, file # 185. It was "exhibited" April 5, 1817 but "not acted > upon". The estate totaled 151.9 pounds sterling. Apparently Mary Eva and > her daughter Catherine died the same year and approximately at the same > time > as each other. > > > > 95. Northampton County Administrative Bond dated July 27, 1771, File > #531. > > > > > > Notes for HENRY Gangwehr: > > Henry, in all probability a son of Jacob Gangwehr b.1732/33, was born > June 7, 1765, and died Nov. 2, 1849, and was buried in the burial ground > adjoining the Friedensville church in Upper Saucon. He was a farmer on the > old Gangwehr homestead, which was divided during his lifetime, two of his > sons, Solomon and John, each receiving a portion on which they built > homes. > Upon the part retained by Henry Gangwehr and that of Solomon, iron ore > beds > were discovered, which were worked for many years by the Thomas Iron > Company > > and the Bethlehem Iron Company. For the last ten years the Bingen > Brick Company has been engaged in manufacturing brick from the dirt that > had > been washed from the ore. A part of the tract taken by John Gangwehr has > been cut up into building plots, and the village of Spring Valley > (Saucona) > has arisen. Numerious large and never failing springs are located there. > Henry Gangwehr marrie Elizabeth Kale, born May 2, 1770, died May 27, 1826. > Children: Jacob, of further mention; Tobias, born Aug. 16, 1794, died Jan. > 11, 1848; Solomon, of further mention; John, of further mention; Philip, > born Oct. 6, 1806, died March 18, 1881; Samuel born in 1810; elizabeth, > born > Aug. 24, 1812, died March 11, 1839; Joseph; Catherine; Daniel. > > > > Note from the Bruner Brothers book > > > > 91. The data for the children of Henry Gangwehr III was obtained from > the > Unger Collection #101 and 102 in the Evangelical Reformed Library in > Lancaster, Pennsylvania. All of this material was handwritten and there > are > many errors. Additional information was found at the Pennsylvania > Historical > Society Library in Philadelphia, and was part of the "Wittman Family and > Allied Lines of PA" by Helen Wittman Kohl, a descendant of Christiana > (I.4). > > > > It's more then you ask but I like to share info. > > > > Gordon A. Koerner > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Researcher0071@aol.com> > To: <palehigh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 5:57 AM > Subject: Re: [PALEHIGH] GANGWERE and SCHLOSSER > > >> >> Dorothy, >> >> Do you have the name of Maria SCHLOSSER'S father? Would it be Peter by >> any >> chance? >> >> Janet >> >> In a message dated 3/16/2007 4:39:19 PM Central Daylight Time, >> djsblum@cox.net writes: >> >> Gordon, >> According to my records, PALEHIGH, 4 Dec 2006, Message 3 from Geri >> Brennan: >> Christina GANGWERE, b. abt 1779, daughter of >> Jacob GANGWERE and Maria SCHLOSSER, b. 24 Feb 1762 Upper Saucon, d. 18 >> Nov >> 1838, Springfield Twp., Bucks Co., PA. >> >> Dorothy >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** AOL now offers free email to >> everyone. >> Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PALEHIGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >