Hello List: I am a newbie. So bear with me. I am looking for information about the Wieder family in the Lehigh Valley. I am a direct descendent of John Adam I . I have the 1914 account of the Wieder family and also Dorothy Worman's account of it. Both records take the history down to my father Harry K. Wieder and his sister Susanna M. Wieder Waedelich ( spelling) I have found Adelshofen, Baden Germany where the Wieders were supposed to have originated. Now my question is, has any one gone further in their research in Germany? If so would you share any information with me? Or can you tell me what means you used to accomplish your findings. Not to confuse anyone, I am going on to my next questions. I am also a descendent of Philip Wendell Klein (Kline). I COULD NOT HAVE CHOSEN TWO BIGGER FAMILIES TO BE DESCENDED FROM! I am searching for any information about Michael Adam Kline. He was supposedly born over the line in Milford Twp. , Bucks Co. He is my great grandfather. He is buried in Laury's Station cemetery with his wife Catharine Ross. He was born in 1825. He served in the Civil War and made Corporal. He also traveled to Ohio, for to my surprise, my grandmother Annie Kline was born there according to the census. His profession was that of a Miller. I have a picture of him standing in front of my grandfather William A. Wieder's hotel called the Valley House in Cementon. So you see I really do know quite a bit about him, but not where he was born exactly or who his parents were. I would appreciate any help anyone can give me. Being here in AZ hampers my style a bit. We do manage to get back to Allentown at least once a year Thanks in advance. Anna Kline Wieder Bennett in sunny warm Arizona. PS Don't let the Bennett fool you, my husband has as much Pa. German in his background as I do.

Hello, I am researching the names: HINDERLITER * HOWERTER * MARKLEY * BAUGHMAN * WEIGHLEY/WAGERLINE * BASTRUS/BASTERS I would like to hear from anyone also researching these families. Thank you, Vicki Smith

I am seeking information on all SOLT's in the state of PA, especially in Northampton, Carbon, and Lehigh Counties. I have an extensive database started and am in the process of compiling a SOLT family history. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheryl Solt-Jones a038057t@bc.seflin.org PA: Solt, Arner, Remaley, Shaffer, Goranflo NC: Lockamy, Anderson, Price, Shivers, Downs, Evans, Carroll MD: Plantholt, Buechner OH: Hoffmann, Lamb

Hi Rooters STAN INGRAM CORRY, PA n3wna@tbscc.com SEARCHING THESE SURNAMES ALLEN-NY-PA-IN HARRO-PA-Minn. INGRAM-PA KEITH-PA LATCHFORD-PA LEONARD-PA PATTERSON-PA SHAWLEY-PA VANPELT-PA-NY WAY-PA Willing to do lookups on these CD's of any surname but also need First name & State as time permits.. Please only two requests at a time Thank you. World Family Tree #1 vol. 1 thru 12 & 15 #2 Census 1870 PA, NYC, NC, SC, VA, WVA Baltimore, Chicago, Georgia #3 Marriage index NY 1639 to 1916 #4 State index upstate NY 1685 to 1910 #5 Church records PA 1600 to 1800 #6 All Social Security 1937 to 1996 #7 PA vital records 1700 to 1800's #8 Marriage index NY #2 1740 to 1880's

Hi Everyone If you have posted a message to the list and it has not made it through. Here is a message the list owners received yesterday. Judy list manager iabutler,iahumbol,iabremer,nyoneida,pabucks,paschuyl,palehigh,schreiber,chee ver mailing list thru rootsweb homepage http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006 >Hi, all -- > >Your friendly local general hacker pulled a major ``oops'' >yesterday. > >In a nutshell, here's what happened: I wrote a global unsubscribe >tool for removing problem addresses from all mailing lists on the >systems. It actually works pretty well, but the first version >turns out to have a nasty bug: it changed every list so that new >subscribers to the list couldn't post. Every list on our systems. > >I spent this morning fixing the problem, and I think that I've >taken care of all the lists. However, if you start getting any >phantom ``not on the accept list'' messages for your list, and you >don't know why, let me know straightaway so I can fix it. > >Thanks for your patience -- > >Regards, >Tim Pierce >RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative >volunteer sysadmin and general hacker > >

Hi, We are looking for information on Matthias GIFT who was naturalized in Sept. 1765, in Weisenburg Twp, Northampton County, which we believe is now a part of Lehigh County. According to the information we have been able to obtain, Matthias was granted land called Gillingen situate in Weisenburg Township, Northampton County , warranted 5 April 1748. This land changed hands several times. I am interested in corresponding with anyone who may have info on Matthias Gift. I want to know if he was in any way related to Nicholas, Adam and Peter Gift. I have in my possession records that show a Matthias Gift in Guilford Twp, Franklin County and who served in the Revolutionary War. He had a son George who also served. Any information on Matthias and his family in the Weisenburg Township area will be greatly appreciated by my husband and myself. Janet in Baton Rouge, LA

Here is my dead-end for my REIMERT line. If anyone has any info., I would be forever grateful. I am trying to discover who David's parents were. Name: David REIMERT Sex: Male Individual Facts Birth bet 1822 and 1826 in Pennsylvania Occupation Laborer (bet 1850 and 1860) (age 28) Death 2 Oct 1897 in Greenwich Township, Berks County, PA (age 75) Burial 4 Oct 1897 in Kutztown, Berks County, PA (age 75) Marriages/Children 1. Sallie (Sarah) AHN Marriage bef 1848 in Pennsylvania (age 26) Children Thomas REIMERT (9 May 1848-13 Nov 1862) Willoughby A. REIMERT (21 May 1850-3 Sep 1931) Edwin REIMERT (abt 1853-) Hiram REIMERT (11 May 1854-aft 1861) Hamilton REIMERT (abt 1856-) Sarah K. E. REIMERT (abt 1859-) Notes Birth1,2,3: Age is shown as 38 on 1860 Federal Census Age is shown as 24 on the 1850 Federal Census Occupation4,5: David's death certificate lists his occupation as a laborer Death6: David died of Apoplexy Definition: Uncontrolled bleeding into an organ; for example, adrenal apoplexy is bleeing into the adrenal glands, pituitary apoplexy is bleeding into the pituitary gland, and so on. The term apoplexy (with no organ specified) often refers to bleeding into the brain. Conditions such as subarachnoid hemorrhage or stroke are sometimes called apoplexy. Burial7: General8,9,10: David is listed as David REIMERD in the index to the 1860 census, however the handwriting on the census documents was clearly a T instead of a D. I can only assume that the indexer could not read the handwriting or made a mistake. David's name was spelled correctly as REIMERT on the 1850 Census. There was a 7 year old male named James living in the household with David, Sarah, Willoughby, and Thomas on the 1850 Census. Because of the age difference of 5 years between Thomas and James, and the fact that Sarah would have been about 15 when he was born, I don't believe him to be a child. He was not present on the 1860 Census, so he may have died or moved in with another family member. Sources 1. 1860 Federal Cencus for Berks Cnty., PA. Page 282. 2. 1850 Federal Census for Berks Cnty., PA. Page 137. 3. Death Certificate. Vol 1., Page 106, line 26, Berks County Register of Wills. 4. 1860 Federal Cencus for Berks Cnty., PA. Page 282. 5. 1850 Federal Census for Berks Cnty., PA. Page 137. 6. Death Certificate. Vol 1., Page 106, line 26, Berks County Register of Wills. 7. Ibid. Vol. 1, Page 106, Line 26, Berks Cnty. Register of Wills. 8. 1860 Federal Cencus for Berks Cnty., PA. Page 282. 9. 1850 Federal Census for Berks Cnty., PA. Page 137. 10. Broderbund Software. Broderbund Software Genealogy CD. Broderbund Software PO Box 6124 Novato, CA 94948-6125. Jeff Reimert, MCSE - Landata Systems, Inc. Technical Services Technical Analyst - Desktops / Laptops / Applications Ext. 8524

Hi Everyone Have a couple of questions. First will the Lehigh Historical Society copy all of a Biographical Sketch on a surname (if its not very long). And will they charge you $15 to tell you how many pages it would consist of. They have a Biographical sketch and genealogy on the Schreiber family from John Jacob Schreiber 929.2 Schreib. and 929.2 Ruch C6 1997 by Colwell, William N. that listed Schreiber in it. I am very interested in obtaining. Second question can you and if you can how would I get records from the Zionsville Reform Church at Old Zionsville. My grandparents were both confirmed there. One was signed by Q.R. Frantz and the other by James N Platt. It's possible my grandfather was bapitized at this church. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and have a great day. Judy List manager palehigh,paschuyl,pabucks,iabremer,iabutler,iahumbol,nyoneida, cheever, schreiber mailing list thru rootsweb Home page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Does anyone have an address for the SCHLEGEL Family Association?

This is a test to see if I have been bounced from these lists. I was bounced from the WOLFE list this weekend due to the massive mailings regarding the "Suicide" topic. Now, I'm having problems getting back on the WOLFE list. Keeps bouncing back that I have been removed because of bounced messages. Sorry to have inconvenienced anyone. Kathy

To help you connect to my RYANS. My Great Grandfather was William J RYAN born 1868 from the Mahanoy City area of PA. His parents are both from Ireland as shown on the 1900 Phila Census. In 1900 he is shown living in Phila with his wife's family and his own family. I have not found out when they all moved to Phila , but I assume it was shortly after 1890. I have a recreated baptismal certificate from St Canicus Church in Mahanoy City for Oct 16 1868 for William RYAN born on Oct 12 1868. Father listed as James Ryan. Mother's maiden name Margaret Curry. By Reverend Michael McEvoy. Sponsors Michael Lonergan and Margaret Carr. I have not found any other information about them upstate before the Phila move. William RYAN became a doctor in Phila sometime after 1910 probably graduating from Temple Med School.> My Great Grandmother was Mary Theresa POPPERT (married RYAN) born 1870 probably from the Girardville or Shenendoaha area of PA. Her parents were Valentine POPPERT (formerly Von POPPERT) born 1838 in Germany and Winifried POPPERT (maiden name unknown) born 1838 in Ireland. The Phila addresses that I have found on the census records are: 1900 Valentine POPPERT and family living at 3513 Market St 1910 Wm J RYAN sr and family living at 5145 Westminster Ave 1920 Wm J RYAN sr and family living at 703 55th St 1920 Wm J RYAN jr living at 5522 Osage Ave If this connects with anybody please let me know. I am trying to make the link from 1900 back thru 1890 and 1880 but I understand that this is hard because of missing census records. Sincerely James R RYAN

To help you connect to my RYANS. My Great Grandfather was William J RYAN born 1868 from the Mahanoy City area of PA. His parents are both from Ireland as shown on the 1900 Phila Census. In 1900 he is shown living in Phila with his wife's family and his own family. I have not found out when they all moved to Phila , but I assume it was shortly after 1890. I have a recreated baptismal certificate from St Canicus Church in Mahanoy City for Oct 16 1868 for William RYAN born on Oct 12 1868. Father listed as James Ryan. Mother's maiden name Margaret Curry. By Reverend Michael McEvoy. Sponsors Michael Lonergan and Margaret Carr. I have not found any other information about them upstate before the Phila move. William RYAN became a doctor in Phila sometime after 1910 probably graduating from Temple Med School.> My Great Grandmother was Mary Theresa POPPERT (married RYAN) born 1870 probably from the Girardville or Shenendoaha area of PA. Her parents were Valentine POPPERT (formerly Von POPPERT) born 1838 in Germany and Winifried POPPERT (maiden name unknown) born 1838 in Ireland. The Phila addresses that I have found on the census records are: 1900 Valentine POPPERT and family living at 3513 Market St 1910 Wm J RYAN sr and family living at 5145 Westminster Ave 1920 Wm J RYAN sr and family living at 703 55th St 1920 Wm J RYAN jr living at 5522 Osage Ave If this connects with anybody please let me know. I am trying to make the link from 1900 back thru 1890 and 1880 but I understand that this is hard because of missing census records.

>Hi Everyone > >Hope everyone is have a happy Easter. > >I to am tired of all the responses and mail generated by the Genealogical >Suicide letter. Besides the one I manages I also belong to about 20 other >list. And talk about a full mail box. >I have made sure that this list is close so that only subscriber can post to >it. The only thing I can do is remove the name of the person who wrote the >orignial letter. But I have also noticed allot of reponses to his letter. >That was mailed the same way he posted his letter addressed to about 20 >mailing list. So should I also remove these people also. >These type of messages from my understanding can cause Rootsweb to crash. >One letter I received said if each list had 500 subscribers it generates >about 25,000 email. Am also to understand this cause Maiser to crash years >back and they never recovered >On the Roots-L list I believe it was this gentlemen sended a letter of >apology. If I can located it will sent it to the list. >Please if you have any comments or questions about this email sent them to >me >Thanks >Judy >List Manager

-----Original Message----- From: Mary Harris <mhharris@m1.sprynet.com> To: s.bowers@worldnet.att.net <s.bowers@worldnet.att.net>; chetgtr@bellsouth.net <chetgtr@bellsouth.net> Cc: Wayne L II <WayneLII@aol.com>; dsmith@servtech.com <dsmith@servtech.com>; CIVIL-WAR@rootsweb.com <CIVIL-WAR@rootsweb.com>; ohio-valley-l@rootsweb.com <ohio-valley-l@rootsweb.com>; paallegh-l@rootsweb.com <paallegh-l@rootsweb.com>; paallegh-memories-l@rootsweb.com <paallegh-memories-l@rootsweb.com>; paarmstr-l@rootsweb.com <paarmstr-l@rootsweb.com>; pabeaver-l@rootsweb.com <pabeaver-l@rootsweb.com>; pabedfor-l@rootsweb.com <pabedfor-l@rootsweb.com>; paberks-l@rootsweb.com <paberks-l@rootsweb.com>; pablair-l@rootsweb.com <pablair-l@rootsweb.com>; pabucks-l@rootsweb.com <pabucks-l@rootsweb.com>; pabutler-l@rootsweb.com <pabutler-l@rootsweb.com>; pacambri-l@rootsweb.com <pacambri-l@rootsweb.com>; pacatholics@gcm.org <pacatholics@gcm.org>; paclario-l@rootsweb.com <paclario-l@rootsweb.com>; paclearf-l@rootsweb.com <paclearf-l@rootsweb.com>; pacrawfo-l@rootsweb.com <pacrawfo-l@rootsweb.com>; pacumber-l@rootsweb.com <pacumber-l@rootsweb.com>; padauphi-l@rootsweb.com <padauphi-l@rootsweb.com>; padauphi-history-l@rootsweb.com <padauphi-history-l@rootsweb.com>; paerie-l@rootsweb.com <paerie-l@rootsweb.com>; pafayett-l@rootsweb.com <pafayett-l@rootsweb.com>; paforest-l@rootsweb.com <paforest-l@rootsweb.com>; pagreene-l@rootsweb.com <pagreene-l@rootsweb.com>; PAHUNTIN-L@rootsweb.com <PAHUNTIN-L@rootsweb.com>; paindian-l@rootsweb.com <paindian-l@rootsweb.com>; pajeffer-l@rootsweb.com <pajeffer-l@rootsweb.com>; pajuniat-l@rootsweb.com <pajuniat-l@rootsweb.com>; palackaw-l@rootsweb.com <palackaw-l@rootsweb.com>; palancas-l@rootsweb.com <palancas-l@rootsweb.com>; palancas-history-l@rootsweb.com <palancas-history-l@rootsweb.com>; palehigh-l@rootsweb.com <palehigh-l@rootsweb.com>; paluzern-l@rootsweb.com <paluzern-l@rootsweb.com>; pamercer-l@rootsweb.com <pamercer-l@rootsweb.com>; pamiffli-l@rootsweb.com <pamiffli-l@rootsweb.com>; pamonroe-l@rootsweb.com <pamonroe-l@rootsweb.com>; pamontgo-l@rootsweb.com <pamontgo-l@rootsweb.com>; panortha-l@rootsweb.com <panortha-l@rootsweb.com>; panorthu-l@rootsweb.com <panorthu-l@rootsweb.com>; paperry-l@rootsweb.com <paperry-l@rootsweb.com>; paschuyl-l@rootsweb.com <paschuyl-l@rootsweb.com>; pasnyder-l@rootsweb.com <pasnyder-l@rootsweb.com>; pavenang-l@rootsweb.com <pavenang-l@rootsweb.com>; pawashin-l@rootsweb.com <pawashin-l@rootsweb.com>; pawayne-l@rootsweb.com <pawayne-l@rootsweb.com>; pawestmo-l@rootsweb.com <pawestmo-l@rootsweb.com>; pawyomin-l@rootsweb.com <pawyomin-l@rootsweb.com>; penna-dutch-l@rootsweb.com <penna-dutch-l@rootsweb.com>; pennsylvania-roots-l@listserv.indiana.edu <pennsylvania-roots-l@listserv.indiana.edu>; philly-roots-l@rootsweb.com <philly-roots-l@rootsweb.com>; somgen-l@rootsweb.com <somgen-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, April 12, 1998 8:37 AM Subject: Re: SICK OF GENEALOGICAL SUICIDE TOPIC >Dear fellow listowners and researchers, > >I too am very tired of seeing this thread and would like to see it stopped >as quickly as possible. The only way to do so is for each listowner of a >closed list to sound off and let the recipients of this post know that >their list is closed and to please remove it from the huge cc: list. In >this post, I have removed from the list pacheste-l and padelawa-l, my own >tow lists, which are closeed to outside posts. I have also stripped out the >Quaker-Roots list and The Roots-L as I know these are also not open lists. >If each of you will do the same and remove your own closed lists from your >posts in the process, we should be able to dwindle this mess down. For that >matter, you could ask to have folks remove your lists from the cc even if >you're not closed. Either way, the irresponsibility of the original poster >has gone on long enough. BRing this to a close! > >REMOVE FROM CC: > > pacheste-l@rootsweb.com > padelawa-l@rootsweb.com > > > > >Mary Harris, listowner > I had rather see "suicide topic" as all the squawking about it.

This thread is the biggest threat to genealogy. This cross posting to all these lists is going to crash rootsweb! Please stop this thread or take it private. If the average list on this thread has 500 people on it, this post generates over 25,000 posts each time someone replies to it. Maiser, a genealogy server like rootsweb was crashed by a single spam of 10,000 posts and is no more. It never recovered. You are putting rootsweb in danger of doing the same. When you cross post, the computer tries to send out all these messages at once. It not only causes an unbalance but can also backlog all these messages until the system overloads and crashes. Brian who runs rootsweb has posted about how dangerous this practice is and has asked that people cross post to only 3 or 4 at a time (in the case of roots-l that has over 10,000 subscribers, post to it alone.) So please, stop this now. A listowner whose list was spammed by this post.

Dear fellow listowners and researchers, I too am very tired of seeing this thread and would like to see it stopped as quickly as possible. The only way to do so is for each listowner of a closed list to sound off and let the recipients of this post know that their list is closed and to please remove it from the huge cc: list. In this post, I have removed from the list pacheste-l and padelawa-l, my own tow lists, which are closeed to outside posts. I have also stripped out the Quaker-Roots list and The Roots-L as I know these are also not open lists. If each of you will do the same and remove your own closed lists from your posts in the process, we should be able to dwindle this mess down. For that matter, you could ask to have folks remove your lists from the cc even if you're not closed. Either way, the irresponsibility of the original poster has gone on long enough. BRing this to a close! REMOVE FROM CC: pacheste-l@rootsweb.com padelawa-l@rootsweb.com Mary Harris, listowner

ENOUGH!!! I am only on two of the mentioned lists and have had over 45 emails about this. This has nothing to do with the two county lists I belong to. LISTOWNERS...PLEASE have them move this to a genealogy CHAT list. I have recently dropped other lists for the same reason. If I drop these as well, many people in my two list counties will miss 1)possible connections I always send them and 2)Lookups I do for people in one of those counties with reference materials I have here. If all of you are so worried about genealogy being researched correctly, then quit your bickering and voicing of opinions and get on with your research and let the rest of us work on ours instead of clogging our mailboxes with off topic subjects. Are you all at dead ends or something? It is MY OPINION that the "serous genealogist" has work and research to do. Not idle time for such chit chat and being involved in off topic threads. Now please drop it people. Get on with your research and your lives. Sharon Bowers Barnes