According to "The Pennsylvania Line" - In 1900, Bethlehem Boro, in Bethlehem Twp., Northampton Co. had a population of 7,293 with a railroad station, a telegraph office, an express office and a post office. In 1900, West Bethlehem Boro in Hanover Twp., Lehigh Co. had a population of 3,465 with NO railroad station, no telegraph station, no express office, and no post office. It seems logical to assume that Bethlehem's facilities served both communities, and people would say they were "from Bethlehem".

Jack Geyer wrote: > > Just to note. Bethlehem, Pa is in both counties. My in-laws live in the > Lehigh County area of Bethlehem. Just thought you would like to know this > before it goes on to long . JackG. I don't want to drag this out; my iniate reply was worded poorly... My main point should have read that I think the City was in only Northampton County in pre-1900... and that the city grew into Lehigh County. For the past year I have been deleting all queries concerning Bethlehem; unless they specifically stated "LEHIGH COUNTY" and told the posted the city was in Northampton County (believing that at usually pre-1850) the statement to be correct in relation to the period of time spoken of... If this in incorrect; and a portion of Bethlehem's west end has ALWAYS been in Lehigh County; I will consider accepting posts, if a significant section of that city rests in Lehigh County.... Again, my first post was poorly worded; I concede and am fully aware that some part of the city is in Lehigh, I am only questioning how much of the city falls inside Lehigh... Jim

ok, some of it may be in Lehigh County, but I believe this to be more recent than pre-1900 or so... I also question the use of LARGE portion. I have not consulted maps (yet, but intend to do so)... I would venture to say maybe 1/8 of the city is in Lehigh County... I would have thought that the State would have had more common sense than to erect a county line through a city... I'm trying not to confuse people, and believe me, I did when I started... For genealogy purposes, I've told people that the city is in Northampton County, as I believed that pre-1900; Bethlehem may have existed solely in Northampton County... If this wrong, let me know; I am aware that today there is a portion of the west end in the county of Lehigh... not sure how long its been in lehigh though... Always willing to hear the answer... Jim Dick Musselman wrote: > > James, > I think you have made an incorrect assumption that has been made > by many others. A large portion of Bethlehem (west Bethlehem) is in > Lehigh County, and has been since the formation of Lehigh. > > Dick Musselman > Family History Research & Photography > Nazareth, Pa. > > On 29 Aug 98 at 16:55, PALEHIGH-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > At no time has Bethlehem been inside Lehigh County (to the best of > > my knowledge the county bounds have not changed since its erection > > in 1812). > > > James Gilbert > > County Coordinator > > Lehigh County, PaGenWeb >

Just to note. Bethlehem, Pa is in both counties. My in-laws live in the Lehigh County area of Bethlehem. Just thought you would like to know this before it goes on to long . JackG.

Jennifer, There should be lookups for Bethlehem, in Northampton. Lehigh County would not supply lookups because the City of Bethlehem is in Northampton County, not Lehigh. I have had offers, but since Bethlehem is not part of Lehigh County; I send them to the Northampton GenWeb page... Suggest you contact the Northampton Coordinator if no page exists as of yet for Bethlehem look-ups... I am only concerned about municipalties that are within the bounds of Lehigh County. At no time has Bethlehem been inside Lehigh County (to the best of my knowledge the county bounds have not changed since its erection in 1812). >From the top of my head I believe Northampton Co page is... http://www.rootsweb.com/~panortha/ Sorry, hope the Northapton County site can help... James Gilbert County Coordinator Lehigh County, PaGenWeb Jennifer Rairigh wrote: > > ---------- > > From: Jennifer Rairigh <jrairigh@usaor.net> > > To: PALEHIGH@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Why not a Northampton County LIST? Offer to look-up in > Bethlehem book1741-1892 > > Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 10:40 PM > > > > Does anyone know why there isn't a Northampton County list on rootsweb? > > There is so much history in that area, it surprised me. Should I start > > one? > > > > I know I'll be flooded with emails, but I have this neat book and I want > to > > offer to look up names in the book for anyone who needs it. The book is > > titled: > > "The History of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania 1741-1892", which was published > in > > 1903 by the Bishop of the Moravian Church, Joseph Mortimer Levering. > > > > In it, there are numerous (about 2000) SURNAMES listed in the index , > some > > with mere references and some with complete biographies. > > > > Those requesting a look-up should do the following: > > > > 1. Be sure your person of interest would have been alive between those > > dates > > 2. please provide first and last name, if possible. Especially with > common > > names, I can't guarantee that I will be able to send you every name in > the > > book, so try to narrow it down. > > 3. Please respond privately to jrairigh@ usaor.net, rather than to the > > entire list. > > > > I'll do my best! >

---------- > From: Jennifer Rairigh <jrairigh@usaor.net> > To: PALEHIGH@rootsweb.com > Subject: Why not a Northampton County LIST? Offer to look-up in Bethlehem book1741-1892 > Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 10:40 PM > > Does anyone know why there isn't a Northampton County list on rootsweb? > There is so much history in that area, it surprised me. Should I start > one? > > I know I'll be flooded with emails, but I have this neat book and I want to > offer to look up names in the book for anyone who needs it. The book is > titled: > "The History of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania 1741-1892", which was published in > 1903 by the Bishop of the Moravian Church, Joseph Mortimer Levering. > > In it, there are numerous (about 2000) SURNAMES listed in the index , some > with mere references and some with complete biographies. > > Those requesting a look-up should do the following: > > 1. Be sure your person of interest would have been alive between those > dates > 2. please provide first and last name, if possible. Especially with common > names, I can't guarantee that I will be able to send you every name in the > book, so try to narrow it down. > 3. Please respond privately to jrairigh@ usaor.net, rather than to the > entire list. > > I'll do my best!

---------- > From: Jennifer Rairigh <jrairigh@usaor.net> > To: Indiana Genealogy <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: I need a Pennsylvania Dutch or German translator! > Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 3:17 PM > > I have a map from a book (A History of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania 1741-1892) > that appears to have my name "Brader" in it, but I can't read the map. I > believe it is in German, but perhaps more along the lines of "Pennsylvania > Dutch". Can anyone read this and translate it for me? > > > Reife Charte durch Pensylvanien > und andere angranzende Provinzen > mif Anmerckung > > Aller eigenthumlichen Landereyen Wehn > Plazen Kirchen und Schulheusern > derer Vereinigten Brader > auch einiger damit (or damif) conerti > renden einzelen Familien > Wei auch verschiedenen Herhergen und Wegereichen > > This is as close as I can get it, as it is handprinted in the book. The > map itself is printed in the same langugae and has black dots at various > locations on the map. The map covers Eastern PA, Western NJ and part of > Maryland. Very much obliged to ANYONE who can read this! (guesses > welcomed) Thanks! > Jenny (Brader) Rairigh jrairigh@usaor.net

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I've been trying to find the address of this cemtery. Does it have another name as I have been unable to find it in any index. Thanks.

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Hi, Can someone e-mail me directions to the Slatedale Cemetery? I would greatly appreciate the directions. Denise at DennieXYZ@aol.com

I rented three films of the 1910 Census for Lehigh County and have been trying to find Catasauqua and Fullerton Enumeration Districts. The Lehigh Co. Films have the EDs from 131-205. There are some Catasauqua EDs (166-168, 172) but it looks like there should be more. ED 169 and 170 cover Emaus (?) Borough and ED-171 has Fountain Hill Borough. Does Fullerton have another name? I have found Copley but no mention of Fullerton. Are there EDs from 1 to 130 which are not on these films from AGLL (Heritage Quest)? I plan to check with the Soundex Index, but I don't have them at present and am trying to get all the information I can from these microfilms before returning them. If anybody can point me to a map of Lehigh which shows the boundaries of the boroughs and townships, I would be appreciative. Ed Hagan Searching (from Lehigh CO. ) Hagan, Burd, Krause, Snyder, and Silverthorn.

Hello, I am interested in information on Henry Handwerk. Son of Tilghman and Elvena Hauser Handwerk, husband of Mary Schaffer Handwerk, and father of Catherine Handwerk Neff(5/19/1888-7/15/1960). Birthdate,deathdate,marriage date, and grave location would be nice. Henry's parents and daughter are buried at Heidelberg Church Cemetery, but I have not found Henry and Mary' graves in that cemetery. I would appreciate any information. Sincerely, Denise DennieXYZ@aol.com

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