This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jdB.2ACI/356.1 Message Board Post: I have been researching Mathias for some time now. I thought one time he was my 5th great grandfather but now believe his John born 1771 stayed in pa. My John (4th great grandfather) came to Tennessee in 1790 and married Elizabeth Hatler. A young man named Samuel came with him. Mathias had 12 children John 1771, Catherine 1772, Jacob 1774, Barbara 1776, Susanna 1778, Anna 1780, Benjamin 1781, Margaret 1783, Henry 1784, Samuel 1786, Christian 1789, and Sarah 1792. Mathias was Heinrich Buttner's 1st son. John 1750 was #2, then Henry, Phillip, and then we believe his wife died because he went to another part of Pa with his sons and married again and had 7 more children George 1771, Anna Marie 1772, John 1773, Henry 1774, David 1778, Susanna 1780 (twin) and Rose Anna 1780 (twin) I hope this helps some Jim