Hi, you may want to check these out. War of 1812 Fornwaldt- none listed Fornward- Benjamin, NY George, MA William or as William Forwood Forwood, William, widow Sarah (Forwood) WC-26094 , married 12 Feb 1818, New Castle, DE, soldier died 11 Sept 1860 Harford Co., MD Berks County History Fornwald, Reily M., subject, vet of the Civil war. He was born April 15, 1842, s/o George and Susan (Moyer) Fornwald of Heidelberg township. George Fornwald, grandfather of Heidelberg had children; George, Isaac, who died at Jonestown,where he is buried, Jonathan, died at Myerstown, his children (Adam, Nora, Agnes, Amelia, John and Emma) and Sarah, who married Jacob Stiely. George Fornwald,father, was born Feb 12, 1822 in N. Heidelberg, and died Dec 12, 1893. He married Susan Moyer, born July 16, died Feb 27, 1895, d/o Daniel ad Susan (Bellman) Moyer and to this union were born, Reily M., and William, who married Susan Rhoads, and they had ( Howard, Franklin, Charles, Samuel and Erb). Reily M. enlisted Sept 11, 1861 47th P.V.I. On Sept 28, 1867 he married Emma S. Betchel, born July 11, 1848, d/o Isaac Betchel of Roebsonia. Mr and Mrs. Fornwald had children, William F., born 1868 and died Nov 6, 1870; Allen L., born 29 Dec 1869, married Katie Zimmerman, d/o George of Lebanon Co., PA and they had 2 children, Earl Ethan Allen and Dorothy Katie. Dauphin County-West Hanover Township Bellman, Samuel, was born in Berks County, June 30, 1854, s/o Simon and Elizabeth (Brown) Bellman. His parents had 8 children; Mary, the wife of Samuel Brandt, Hannah, who married Frank Hain, Samuel, Rebecca, wife of Charles Kenney, Elizabeth, the wife of Ezra Struhower, Daniel, Sarah, the wife of Peter Hartman and David who died in infancy. Mr. Bellman, father of Samuel was born in Berks County. Samuel Bellman, married in Lebanon County, Sept 3, 1876 to Catharine, d/o Solomon and Fannie (Keiter) Cassel. They had two children;, Michael and Agnes. When Mr. Bellman moved to W. Hanover he began farming. Rev War Belman, Dewalt, or as Dewalt Bilman, see Dewalt Bilman Bilman, Dewalt or as Dewalt Belman, S39993, PA Line, applied 1818 Union Co. aged about 68, enlisted at Windsor township, Berks Co. Brandt, Joachim J., Navy Service, sailor's name appears on list of applicants for invailid pension returned by PA to House of Reps. on 25 April 1794, served as a Marine on the "Columbus", lived in Phila., PA. He was wounded at the taking of New Providence in March, 1776, he went to Europe in 1780 and returned in 1791. Lebanon County-Bollman The first of this old Lebanon Co., was John Bollman, native of Germany, who, with his wife, set sail in the good ship "Nancy", from Wurttember, in 1738, settled in Lebanon Co. One of his sons, John (2) served in the Rev. War, with the rank of Capt., he also had a son named John (3). Michael Bollman, son of John (3), was born in 1823, Mill Creek township, Lebanon Co. His mother, Mary Bennethum, was born in Berks Co., in the vicinity ofWomelsdorf, Berks Co. Michael Bollman, married Lucetta Bubb, born in 1825, d/o Daniel and granddaughter of Daniel Bubb, who in the 17th century, took up land and settled near Shaefferstown, Lebanon Co. On the maternal side, Lucetta Bubb was a d/o Sarah Miller, d/o Henry and granddaughter of Peter Miller who also served in the Rev. Best Wishes, Geri

Hi, Whoa! Hold on now. I think you hit on something, but I'm a bit confused. You stated: "Berks County History Fornwald, Reily M., subject, vet of the Civil war. He was born April 15, 1842, s/o George and Susan (Moyer) Fornwald of Heidelberg township. George Fornwald, grandfather of Heidelberg had children; George, Isaac, who died at Jonestown,where he is buried, Jonathan, died at Myerstown, his children (Adam, Nora, Agnes, Amelia, John and Emma) and Sarah, who married Jacob Stiely." I found this information on Sarah Fornwalt or Fornwald: born: 4 Apr 1812 Lebanon, PA, married 31 Jul 1831, Jonestown, PA, Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church Records to Jacob Witz (misspelled Wetz), died: 1 Jan 1882 East Saginaw, Saginaw County, MI. Who is Jacob Stiely??? Jacob and Sarah had 12 children, ALL of the PA children I don't know the location of birth, or PA location of deaths: Elisabeth, b: 4 Mar 1831 PA, d: 13 Apr 1834 PA; Caroline, b: 17 May 1832 PA, d: 1832 PA; Magdalina, b: 12 Dec 1834 PA, d: 27 Nov 1836 PA (named after father's mother); John, b: 16 Dec 1835, PA, d: 2 Apr 1910, MI (1st born male, named after father's father); Pollina (Polly) b: 4 Oct 1838, PA, d: ?, MI; Isaac, b: 6 May 1841, PA, d: 29 Mar 1907, MI; (named after the father's brother?) Nancy, b: 22 Sep 1843 PA, d: 17 Apr 1916, MI; Jacob, b: 5 Oct 1845, PA, d: ?, MI; (named after the father) Rolandus (Rolander), b: 10 Feb 1848, OH, d: 30 May 1928, MI; Aaron (twin), b: 24 Nov 1850, OH, d: 4 Apr 1922, MI; Ely (twin), b: 24 Nov 1850 OH, d: 27 Jun 1854, OH; and Henry, b: 8 Feb 1853 MI, d: 25 Jan 1934, MI (my GGGrandfather). Help me here on the name game, 1st male after the father's father, 2nd male after the mother's father, 3rd male after the father's oldest brother, 4th male after the father... is that how it goes with the German Lutheran and/or Reform Religion families??? If so, I may be missing another PA male infant birth and death between 1835 and 1838, cause the above names were taken from military records and census records in MI. Does the name get used if the infant dies at birth or is stillborn? Jacob's parents, John Witz and Magdalina "Mollie" (?maiden) Witz, born around 1785, and their families moved to Tiffin, Ohio together, before or after the Brestle family. "Magdalina wife of John Witz, died 1875, 91 yrs old" is buried in the Tiffin Ohio Brestle Family Plot. Only know currently three children of John and Magdalina Witz: Isaac Witz, b: ? PA; d: ? (only child "named" in John Witz OH Will, "other children" referenced) Jacob Witz, b: 28 Dec 1809, PA (my GGGGrandfather), d: 23 Aug 1880, Saginaw, MI Catherina Witz, b: 15 Oct 1816, PA; d: 9 May 1900, OH (married John Brestle) Catherina and John Brestle had 6 known children to date: G.W. Brestle, b: 11 Jan 1837, Dauphin County, PA, d: ?, OH (G.W.'s military & personal sketches reference Catherina's maiden name as Witz) William Brestle, b: ? d: ? Irene M. Brestle, b: ?, Tiffin, OH, d: ? (married Andrew Brandeberry in Tiffin, OH., Andrew's military & personal sketches reference Catherina's maiden name as Witz) Charles Brestle, b: 1855, OH, d: ? Edward Brestle, b: 1856, OH, d: ? Lillie M. Brestle, b: 1861, OH, d: ? Question: Why can't I find the birth, baptism and death records of the Jacob Witz's first three children in PA?? I am aware of a number of Witz individuals dating back further in Berks, Philadelphia and Montgomery Counties, but have been unable to connect many of them. There were a number of John Witz's and Jacob Witz's throughout Southeast PA. I believe they are ALL connected but haven't been able to find the connecting documentation....it's so frustrating when you can see a tree but not make out the forest that it's part of!! Geri, thanks for the additional puzzle pieces, and thank you for your help, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "geri brennan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Dauphin County > Hi, you may want to check these out. > War of 1812 > Fornwaldt- none listed > Fornward- > Benjamin, NY > George, MA > William or as William Forwood > > Forwood, William, widow Sarah (Forwood) WC-26094 , married 12 Feb 1818, > New Castle, DE, soldier died 11 Sept 1860 Harford Co., MD > > Berks County History > Fornwald, Reily M., subject, vet of the Civil war. He was born April 15, > 1842, s/o George and Susan (Moyer) Fornwald of Heidelberg township. > George Fornwald, grandfather of Heidelberg had children; George, Isaac, > who died at Jonestown,where he is buried, Jonathan, died at Myerstown, > his children (Adam, Nora, Agnes, Amelia, John and Emma) and Sarah, who > married Jacob Stiely. > > George Fornwald,father, was born Feb 12, 1822 in N. Heidelberg, and died > Dec 12, 1893. He married Susan Moyer, born July 16, died Feb 27, 1895, > d/o Daniel ad Susan (Bellman) Moyer and to this union were born, Reily > M., and William, who married Susan Rhoads, and they had ( Howard, > Franklin, Charles, Samuel and Erb). > > Reily M. enlisted Sept 11, 1861 47th P.V.I. On Sept 28, 1867 he married > Emma S. Betchel, born July 11, 1848, d/o Isaac Betchel of Roebsonia. Mr > and Mrs. Fornwald had children, William F., born 1868 and died Nov 6, > 1870; Allen L., born 29 Dec 1869, married Katie Zimmerman, d/o George of > Lebanon Co., PA and they had 2 children, Earl Ethan Allen and Dorothy > Katie. > > Dauphin County-West Hanover Township > Bellman, Samuel, was born in Berks County, June 30, 1854, s/o Simon and > Elizabeth (Brown) Bellman. His parents had 8 children; Mary, the wife of > Samuel Brandt, Hannah, who married Frank Hain, Samuel, Rebecca, wife of > Charles Kenney, Elizabeth, the wife of Ezra Struhower, Daniel, Sarah, > the wife of Peter Hartman and David who died in infancy. Mr. Bellman, > father of Samuel was born in Berks County. > > Samuel Bellman, married in Lebanon County, Sept 3, 1876 to Catharine, > d/o Solomon and Fannie (Keiter) Cassel. They had two children;, Michael > and Agnes. When Mr. Bellman moved to W. Hanover he began farming. > > Rev War > Belman, Dewalt, or as Dewalt Bilman, see Dewalt Bilman > > Bilman, Dewalt or as Dewalt Belman, S39993, PA Line, applied 1818 Union > Co. aged about 68, enlisted at Windsor township, Berks Co. > > Brandt, Joachim J., Navy Service, sailor's name appears on list of > applicants for invailid pension returned by PA to House of Reps. on 25 > April 1794, served as a Marine on the "Columbus", lived in Phila., PA. > He was wounded at the taking of New Providence in March, 1776, he went > to Europe in 1780 and returned in 1791. > > Lebanon County-Bollman > The first of this old Lebanon Co., was John Bollman, native of Germany, > who, with his wife, set sail in the good ship "Nancy", from Wurttember, > in 1738, settled in Lebanon Co. One of his sons, John (2) served in the > Rev. War, with the rank of Capt., he also had a son named John (3). > > Michael Bollman, son of John (3), was born in 1823, Mill Creek > township, Lebanon Co. His mother, Mary Bennethum, was born in Berks Co., > in the vicinity ofWomelsdorf, Berks Co. > Michael Bollman, married Lucetta Bubb, born in 1825, d/o Daniel and > granddaughter of Daniel Bubb, who in the 17th century, took up land and > settled near Shaefferstown, Lebanon Co. On the maternal side, Lucetta > Bubb was a d/o Sarah Miller, d/o Henry and granddaughter of Peter Miller > who also served in the Rev. > > Best Wishes, Geri