Hi Helen and Donna, Just to throw another fly into the ointment...I have a Barbara Desch (Desh) married to a Jacob Rudy in Fredericksburg, Lebanon Co. I have 3 daughters for them. Magdalena Rudy born Feb 6, 1800, bapt Mar 1800; Barbara Rudy born Oct 31, 1805, bapt Dec 1, 1805; and Margaret Rudy born Aug 24, 1811. All in Fredericksburg. I have a copy of Barbara's mother's will listing her as "my daughter Barbara now the wife of Jacob Rudy". On the 1790 Census for Bethel Township two Jacob Rudy's were listed, one as Sr. Donna Thomas