Dear Roger, and other Lights and Light researchers who have been very helpful in this query - I take the blame fully for the confusion about sources, and again I apologize. As I said to Roger and the other Light researchers participating in this discourse -off list- last week, I had mis-remembered him as having additional sources for some of the information I am now contesting, and I apologized when I discovered some of our previous correspondence. I did not post any of the previous correspondence nor last week's exchange to the list - but it seems to be replicating on the list after the fact! I am sorry. Now back to the genealogy. Roger and I, between us, have at least two different written family records (call it tradition or not), from two different branches of the Lebanon clan, that make use, as fact, the contested information. It is the faith I do hold in the work of J. G. Francis and Betty Behr that drives me to pursue the ORIGIN of these discrepancies with their work. That I believe is good genealogy. As I work my way back through the lines with the Francis book I have found error and omission and I am seeking fact where it is to be found; I am pleased to have opened up this particular debate given the interest and varied opinion that has emerged. John Light Monterey, CA