In a message dated 3/6/99 4:37:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, hmaiman@prodigy.net writes: << I am searching for the ancestors of Elias Mader born about 1827. I do not know where he was born but I do know he lived at least part of his adult life in Lebanon Co. in the East Hanover area and he died there. Is anyone else researching this surname? Also, it was suggested to me that perhaps Mader could be a variation of Maderia. >> Any chance the name could be MATTER. That is my family and they lived primarily in Dauphin Co. beginning back in 1751. If you determine it might be, I may be able to help you. Roger Cramer