Vincent-- I am interested. There was, perhaps still is, a publication of Krefeld descendants, citing them as original settlers of Germantown. One of the surnames was te Neues which has descended in about a dozen different forms from Neiss to Nyce. The furthest back I have been able to trace my father's family was to William Niecs (later Nice) whose marriage in 1812 in Scioto County, Ohio is the oldest record I have found. You do not list te Neues or any variation. Was the Krefeld publication in error? Shirley Nice Schuldt "Vincent E. Summers" wrote: > Dear Folks: > > I would like to briefly invite any who desire to join the above > named email group, of which I am list owner. > > The Concord, in 1683, brought (under the guidance of Franz > Daniel Pastorius who came under a different ship) 13 families > to what became Germantown, Pennsylvania. Germantown became > well known, due to these ones, for their anti-slavery stand, > and, in addition, Germantown became in the 1790's due to the > Yellow Fever being so rampant in Philly proper, the Capitol > of the Land. > > What are the surnames of the thirteen, and their descendants? > Op den Graeff --> Updegraff, Uptegraff, Updegrove, etc. > Tunes --> Tunis, Tennis, Dennis > Bleikers > Lensen > Siemens > Streyper --> Streepers > Lucken --> Lukens, Lykens, Likens > Kunders --> Conard, Cunraeds, etc. > Arens --> Aret > Keurlis --> Keurlin > Theissen --> Tisen, Tyson, etc. > > Descendants: Not all known at the moment, but commonly: > > Levering > Schumacher or Shoemaker > Kenderdine > Potts > DeHaven > Cadwallader > Kite > Van Bebber/Van Bibber > possibly Warner, etc., etc. > Many I cannot think of off the top of my head. > > We have a large archive of data emails (over 1000) > and we cover everything connected to these ones. > > Recently such topics as: The Lukens Papers, > the Op den Graeff Stained Glass Windows, still extant. > Keithian Split > Cadwallader connections to many of the 13 > Data claims for Hermann Op den Graeff > > We stress, very heavily, source. We have presidents > of at least two organizations as members, and a strong > german background, and homepage at: > > http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/cavendish/693/ > > At this site, you can join our emaillist if you wish. > Archives is at http://www.listbot.com/ but is not > public for reasons that some data organizations have > provided has been provided on the condition that it > can be released to our group, but not to the public > at large. > > Hope to have you with us. If you cannot join us, but > have relevant data you would like to share, and would > not mind releasing it, or hearing from any individuals > who have a direct tie-in to your own line, send a > simple copy and paste or text file to me, at: > > vsummers@nrao.edu > > But please consider joining our little group of about > 150. It is listed under Pennsylvania Rootsweb Email > lists, and is on Cyndi's List. > > Vince > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > A great on-line resource; the Lebanon County PA GenWeb Page: > <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/>