Yes, please do post to your list. I have been looking for the link between Hans & Jan te Neues and William Nice for years. The story of those brothers coming to the colonies matches the family legend of my father's emigrant, but I haven't been able to locate William's parents. Shirley Vincent Edward Summers wrote: > I responded from memory. That name may have come up in some variant > spelling on our group. It looks familiar. May I post your message to > my group, and let them respond to you? > > Then you can decide if you want to join. If you want to join anyway, > there is no particular requirement. Just go to the button interface > and sub. It is a discussion group, and no set hard-and-fast rules > need apply. > > Vince > Listowner > > Shirley Schuldt wrote: > > > > Vincent-- > > > > I am interested. There was, perhaps still is, a publication of Krefeld > > descendants, citing them as original settlers of Germantown. One of the > > surnames was te Neues which has descended in about a dozen different > > forms from Neiss to Nyce. The furthest back I have been able to trace my > > father's family was to William Niecs (later Nice) whose marriage in 1812 > > in Scioto County, Ohio is the oldest record I have found. You do not > > list te Neues or any variation. Was the Krefeld publication in error? > > > > Shirley Nice Schuldt > > > > "Vincent E. Summers" wrote: > > > > > Dear Folks: > > > > > > I would like to briefly invite any who desire to join the above > > > named email group, of which I am list owner. > > > > > > The Concord, in 1683, brought (under the guidance of Franz > > > Daniel Pastorius who came under a different ship) 13 families > > > to what became Germantown, Pennsylvania. Germantown became > > > well known, due to these ones, for their anti-slavery stand, > > > and, in addition, Germantown became in the 1790's due to the > > > Yellow Fever being so rampant in Philly proper, the Capitol > > > of the Land. > > > > > > What are the surnames of the thirteen, and their descendants? > > > Op den Graeff --> Updegraff, Uptegraff, Updegrove, etc. > > > Tunes --> Tunis, Tennis, Dennis > > > Bleikers > > > Lensen > > > Siemens > > > Streyper --> Streepers > > > Lucken --> Lukens, Lykens, Likens > > > Kunders --> Conard, Cunraeds, etc. > > > Arens --> Aret > > > Keurlis --> Keurlin > > > Theissen --> Tisen, Tyson, etc. > > > > > > Descendants: Not all known at the moment, but commonly: > > > > > > Levering > > > Schumacher or Shoemaker > > > Kenderdine > > > Potts > > > DeHaven > > > Cadwallader > > > Kite > > > Van Bebber/Van Bibber > > > possibly Warner, etc., etc. > > > Many I cannot think of off the top of my head. > > > > > > We have a large archive of data emails (over 1000) > > > and we cover everything connected to these ones. > > > > > > Recently such topics as: The Lukens Papers, > > > the Op den Graeff Stained Glass Windows, still extant. > > > Keithian Split > > > Cadwallader connections to many of the 13 > > > Data claims for Hermann Op den Graeff > > > > > > We stress, very heavily, source. We have presidents > > > of at least two organizations as members, and a strong > > > german background, and homepage at: > > > > > > http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/cavendish/693/ > > > > > > At this site, you can join our emaillist if you wish. > > > Archives is at http://www.listbot.com/ but is not > > > public for reasons that some data organizations have > > > provided has been provided on the condition that it > > > can be released to our group, but not to the public > > > at large. > > > > > > Hope to have you with us. If you cannot join us, but > > > have relevant data you would like to share, and would > > > not mind releasing it, or hearing from any individuals > > > who have a direct tie-in to your own line, send a > > > simple copy and paste or text file to me, at: > > > > > > vsummers@nrao.edu > > > > > > But please consider joining our little group of about > > > 150. It is listed under Pennsylvania Rootsweb Email > > > lists, and is on Cyndi's List. > > > > > > Vince > > > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > > > A great on-line resource; the Lebanon County PA GenWeb Page: > > > <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > > Found any good sites lately? We'd sure like to know about them! > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > For a great list of most of the on-line mailing lists (and ability to subscribe to them) check out John Fuller's Internet Resources web page: > <http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/internet.html>