I responded from memory. That name may have come up in some variant spelling on our group. It looks familiar. May I post your message to my group, and let them respond to you? Then you can decide if you want to join. If you want to join anyway, there is no particular requirement. Just go to the button interface and sub. It is a discussion group, and no set hard-and-fast rules need apply. Vince Listowner Shirley Schuldt wrote: > > Vincent-- > > I am interested. There was, perhaps still is, a publication of Krefeld > descendants, citing them as original settlers of Germantown. One of the > surnames was te Neues which has descended in about a dozen different > forms from Neiss to Nyce. The furthest back I have been able to trace my > father's family was to William Niecs (later Nice) whose marriage in 1812 > in Scioto County, Ohio is the oldest record I have found. You do not > list te Neues or any variation. Was the Krefeld publication in error? > > Shirley Nice Schuldt > > "Vincent E. Summers" wrote: > > > Dear Folks: > > > > I would like to briefly invite any who desire to join the above > > named email group, of which I am list owner. > > > > The Concord, in 1683, brought (under the guidance of Franz > > Daniel Pastorius who came under a different ship) 13 families > > to what became Germantown, Pennsylvania. Germantown became > > well known, due to these ones, for their anti-slavery stand, > > and, in addition, Germantown became in the 1790's due to the > > Yellow Fever being so rampant in Philly proper, the Capitol > > of the Land. > > > > What are the surnames of the thirteen, and their descendants? > > Op den Graeff --> Updegraff, Uptegraff, Updegrove, etc. > > Tunes --> Tunis, Tennis, Dennis > > Bleikers > > Lensen > > Siemens > > Streyper --> Streepers > > Lucken --> Lukens, Lykens, Likens > > Kunders --> Conard, Cunraeds, etc. > > Arens --> Aret > > Keurlis --> Keurlin > > Theissen --> Tisen, Tyson, etc. > > > > Descendants: Not all known at the moment, but commonly: > > > > Levering > > Schumacher or Shoemaker > > Kenderdine > > Potts > > DeHaven > > Cadwallader > > Kite > > Van Bebber/Van Bibber > > possibly Warner, etc., etc. > > Many I cannot think of off the top of my head. > > > > We have a large archive of data emails (over 1000) > > and we cover everything connected to these ones. > > > > Recently such topics as: The Lukens Papers, > > the Op den Graeff Stained Glass Windows, still extant. > > Keithian Split > > Cadwallader connections to many of the 13 > > Data claims for Hermann Op den Graeff > > > > We stress, very heavily, source. We have presidents > > of at least two organizations as members, and a strong > > german background, and homepage at: > > > > http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/cavendish/693/ > > > > At this site, you can join our emaillist if you wish. > > Archives is at http://www.listbot.com/ but is not > > public for reasons that some data organizations have > > provided has been provided on the condition that it > > can be released to our group, but not to the public > > at large. > > > > Hope to have you with us. If you cannot join us, but > > have relevant data you would like to share, and would > > not mind releasing it, or hearing from any individuals > > who have a direct tie-in to your own line, send a > > simple copy and paste or text file to me, at: > > > > vsummers@nrao.edu > > > > But please consider joining our little group of about > > 150. It is listed under Pennsylvania Rootsweb Email > > lists, and is on Cyndi's List. > > > > Vince > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > > A great on-line resource; the Lebanon County PA GenWeb Page: > > <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Found any good sites lately? We'd sure like to know about them!