> I disagree that the letter about the Weber book was an "advertisement"! > Being a descendant of the Weber family, I was very happy to hear that the book > will be available and have ordered one already. Marlene Leber has worked > diligently on this family history and helped many, including myself, with > their research. I am sure many of us really appreciate her efforts. For her > to announce the availability of the book on this site and on the PABerks site > was the best way to let all parties interested know about it. > Accolades to Marlene......Cheer up Georgia! > Shirley Herman I can only say AMEN to the above remarks! I think that e-mail gave Marlene a "bum rap". >From another WEBER descendent. Charles Kindt Lebanon, Pa. website: http://users.nbn.net/charo/

Hi everyone, This information came from another mailing list, I thought someone may find helpful... "LDS Family History Library has announced that it has begun the process of digitizing and making available on the Internet all of the Family History books in their collection. About 5000 books have been digitized and are available, and they have announced that they are adding about 100 titles a week to the on-line collection. Copyright issues are playing a role in determining the order in which they progress through this task; books out of copyright are being done first." Go to the web site of the Harold B. Lee Library at BYU, http://www.lib.byu.edu/ then on the home page, from the list of collections that are displayed, follow the links: Find Other Materials; Electronic; On Line Collections at BYU; Text Collections tab; Family History Archive, Search Fran

I disagree that the letter about the Weber book was an "advertisement"! Being a descendant of the Weber family, I was very happy to hear that the book will be available and have ordered one already. Marlene Leber has worked diligently on this family history and helped many, including myself, with their research. I am sure many of us really appreciate her efforts. For her to announce the availability of the book on this site and on the PABerks site was the best way to let all parties interested know about it. Accolades to Marlene......Cheer up Georgia! Shirley Herman

In the U.S. Census for Lebanon Pa. the household of Frederick Embich includes Elizabeth DUBBS, age 26, as a servant. Was she a relative of Frederich's wife, Lucetta Doebler? NOTE: that Lucetta's grandfather, Anthony Doebler had a sister, Anna Barbara Doebler, married to Heinrich Dubs and had a son, John Jacob DUBBS. IF he had a daughter, Elizabeth, she would be a 2nd cousin of Lucetta. John Jacob had another daughter, Rebecca, who married Joseph Shindel, the s/o of John Shindel and Sara Embich. Can someone list all the children of John Jacob Dubbs & Eve Louser? Fred Frantz, researching Embich and Shindel families

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cameron Wolf McConnel Gossert Vogel Walter Foesig Poffenberger Walker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jdB.2ACI/528 Message Board Post: daughter of Joseph and Mary Ann "Polly" Burris Cameron,she is my gggg aunt

I will be offering a book for sale that I have compiled, titled, "Descendants of Johan Henrich and Anna Elizabetha Weber, 1735 - 2005". The expected completion date will be approx. November 18, 2005. This book will be a hardcover. The book is about descendants of Johan Henrich Weber who was born in Hochstadt, Germany May 28, 1735 and came to America in 1749. He had purchased a farm in Tulpehocken Twp., Berks Co., PA around 1770 & lived there until his death April 10, 1815. I had also put a section in the book for my maternal side of the family which includes Filbert, Meyer, Bordner, Werner, Ristine, Wilson and Deitz families. Another section in the book is about 3 other families that belong within this family of Webers but at the present time are of unproven lineage. There are 80 - 85 photos of tombstones and people included in this book. Any questions, please email me at mwleber@dejazzd.com This book would make a great Christmas present.Weber -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/05

If you think we want to read your advertisements, you're wrong. I also got this on the Berks list and didn't appreciate it any better there. Don't do it again! -Georgia http://www.customxstitch.com Live well, Laugh often, & Love with all of your heart! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Weaber Leber" <mwleber@dejazzd.com> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 05 November, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: [PALEBANO] Weber book

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Embich, Gerhart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jdB.2ACI/527 Message Board Post: Looking for information on a Sarah Embich who married David Gerhart 1828. I believe she was born abt 1808. Perhaps Lebanon. Please help, I am at a standstill. Sincerely, Mary

Yes she does have a new email address. I'm a friend of hers is there something special I can help you with? I do not want to send her new address to the list so contact me and I will give it to you. Sandy

I am trying to contact the above Smbrown - if she has a new e-mail would she please contact me privately - thank you - Ahlive

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jdB.2ACI/523.2 Message Board Post: When you post an inquiry, there is an option at the bottom to add an attachment. Good Luck, Vera

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jdB.2ACI/526 Message Board Post: Does anyone have access to a Lebanon directory printed between 1883 and 1900? If you would be willing to look up two names please contact me. Thanks. dh483@aol.com

Maria Magdalena "Mollie" Allwein married to Johannes - John Ohrendorff/Orndorff/Orendorff, Sr. Could this be Johannes' brother--- Lorenzo born abt. 1758??? Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Wilmer" <wilmer@dmv.com> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: [PALEBANO] Fw: Lorenzo O. > This article comes by way of Joe Nihen (morse73@ptd.net) who lives in > Lansford, Carbon Co., PA and had the original article translated by a > professor in Lebanon. If you have comments of questions, write to Joe. > > > -------------------------------- > From: Joe Nihen morse73@ptd.net > Re: Newspaper account of the murder of Lorentz Ohrendorf. > > A Professor of German at Lebanon Valley College translated it for me. A > copy follows: > > Lebanon, June 26, 1791 > > Dear Printers, > > You are requested to include the following terrible happening in your > newspaper: Wednesday night on the 22nd of this month about midnight, a > horrible murder was committed about two miles from the city of Lebanon, > Dauphin County, in the home of one Lorenz Ohrendorf. According to sworn > testimony, the circumstances are the following: the murderer had broken a > small window in the house and climbed in by the same and tied shut the door > to the living room (stube) in the ground floor in which Ohrendorf’s two > sisters were sleeping. Thereafter the murderer went upstairs. In a side > room the unfortunate Ohrendorf was fast asleep in his bed after having > worked hard the day before. Here the murderer delivered several mortal > blows to his head with a short-handled ax and then used a cutting instrument > to slash his throat through to the bone. Following this he went back > downstairs and after he had cut through the rope with which he had tied the > door shut, he went into the living room (stube), where the victim’s two > sisters had already hidden under the bed since they had heard the blows and > their brother choking on his own blood. When the murderer now entered the > room he had a lighted lantern in his hand which he used to look into the > bed. Finding it empty, however, he then looked under the bed where the > frightened women had hidden themselves. He ordered them to come out, which > they did. He then ordered them to lie on the bed, which they, however, did > not wish to do because they said he would murder them, too. But he replied > that he only wished to tie them to it. During this conversation, the > younger sister tried to escape through a window and the older grabbed the > sword which the murderer had hanging at his side and tried to get it away > from him. In the mean time, the younger sister did escape through the > window and ran to get help from a neighbor. The older sister and the > murderer meanwhile each had hold of the sword with both hands and she said > that they struggled back and forth over it for half an hour until she saw a > chance to escape and darted through the door to the stube. She ran to > another brother who lived about half a mile away to give the alarm. The > murderer, who now found himself alone and imagining that he had no time to > steal anything, took his sword and the now extinguished lantern and ran off > leaving behind the murder weapon and the rope with which he had intended to > tie the women. It is thought that the person who committed the murder is a > man who has worked in Lebanon as a butcher for many years, Matheus Weiß by > name, formerly a member of the corps of Hessian scouts which had come to > this country with the British soldiers. When he noticed that suspicion was > beginning to fall on him, he made his escape on the following Friday night. > He is about five feet six inches tall, has short, blond, curly hair and a > rather bald head and has one or two stiff fingers on the left hand that he > cannot close completely. He was wearing a light blue butcher’s coat. He > made his way to Wyoming and from there presumably to Niagra. A reward of 80 > Thalers has been posted for his capture and return. > > ----------------------------------------------------- > What a wonderfully gruesome tale! > > I have scans of the original, if you'd like them. > > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Always cite your sources when posting information! >

I thought the same thing. Richard A. Sherer wrote: >I may be over-reacting, but this sure looks like a commercial venture >instead of a researcher trying to help out fellow researchers. > >-----Original Message----- >From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >ehorne@genbooksource.com >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 2:37 PM >To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PALEBANO] PA Genealogical Books > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jdB.2ACI/525 > >Message Board Post: > >I just started a website to acquire and share genealogical books. I have >some books, maps, local histories, and databases on PA. Plus we'll be >adding more, later this month. Check it out, let me know why you think and >email me with any comments or suggestions. > >www.genbooksource.com > > > > >==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >Lebanon County Historical Society Home Page: ><http://www.lebanonhistory.org> > > >==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >Always cite your sources when posting information! > > > >

This article comes by way of Joe Nihen (morse73@ptd.net) who lives in Lansford, Carbon Co., PA and had the original article translated by a professor in Lebanon. If you have comments of questions, write to Joe. -------------------------------- From: Joe Nihen morse73@ptd.net Re: Newspaper account of the murder of Lorentz Ohrendorf. A Professor of German at Lebanon Valley College translated it for me. A copy follows: Lebanon, June 26, 1791 Dear Printers, You are requested to include the following terrible happening in your newspaper: Wednesday night on the 22nd of this month about midnight, a horrible murder was committed about two miles from the city of Lebanon, Dauphin County, in the home of one Lorenz Ohrendorf. According to sworn testimony, the circumstances are the following: the murderer had broken a small window in the house and climbed in by the same and tied shut the door to the living room (stube) in the ground floor in which Ohrendorf’s two sisters were sleeping. Thereafter the murderer went upstairs. In a side room the unfortunate Ohrendorf was fast asleep in his bed after having worked hard the day before. Here the murderer delivered several mortal blows to his head with a short-handled ax and then used a cutting instrument to slash his throat through to the bone. Following this he went back downstairs and after he had cut through the rope with which he had tied the door shut, he went into the living room (stube), where the victim’s two sisters had already hidden under the bed since they had heard the blows and their brother choking on his own blood. When the murderer now entered the room he had a lighted lantern in his hand which he used to look into the bed. Finding it empty, however, he then looked under the bed where the frightened women had hidden themselves. He ordered them to come out, which they did. He then ordered them to lie on the bed, which they, however, did not wish to do because they said he would murder them, too. But he replied that he only wished to tie them to it. During this conversation, the younger sister tried to escape through a window and the older grabbed the sword which the murderer had hanging at his side and tried to get it away from him. In the mean time, the younger sister did escape through the window and ran to get help from a neighbor. The older sister and the murderer meanwhile each had hold of the sword with both hands and she said that they struggled back and forth over it for half an hour until she saw a chance to escape and darted through the door to the stube. She ran to another brother who lived about half a mile away to give the alarm. The murderer, who now found himself alone and imagining that he had no time to steal anything, took his sword and the now extinguished lantern and ran off leaving behind the murder weapon and the rope with which he had intended to tie the women. It is thought that the person who committed the murder is a man who has worked in Lebanon as a butcher for many years, Matheus Weiß by name, formerly a member of the corps of Hessian scouts which had come to this country with the British soldiers. When he noticed that suspicion was beginning to fall on him, he made his escape on the following Friday night. He is about five feet six inches tall, has short, blond, curly hair and a rather bald head and has one or two stiff fingers on the left hand that he cannot close completely. He was wearing a light blue butcher’s coat. He made his way to Wyoming and from there presumably to Niagra. A reward of 80 Thalers has been posted for his capture and return. ----------------------------------------------------- What a wonderfully gruesome tale! I have scans of the original, if you'd like them.

If the books have price tags, I'd say you are right. If that's the case they should advertise on rootsweb, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Sherer" <rasherer@ix.netcom.com> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: RE: [PALEBANO] PA Genealogical Books I may be over-reacting, but this sure looks like a commercial venture instead of a researcher trying to help out fellow researchers. -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ehorne@genbooksource.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 2:37 PM To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PALEBANO] PA Genealogical Books This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jdB.2ACI/525 Message Board Post: I just started a website to acquire and share genealogical books. I have some books, maps, local histories, and databases on PA. Plus we'll be adding more, later this month. Check it out, let me know why you think and email me with any comments or suggestions. www.genbooksource.com ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== Lebanon County Historical Society Home Page: <http://www.lebanonhistory.org> ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== Always cite your sources when posting information!

I may be over-reacting, but this sure looks like a commercial venture instead of a researcher trying to help out fellow researchers. -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ehorne@genbooksource.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 2:37 PM To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PALEBANO] PA Genealogical Books This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jdB.2ACI/525 Message Board Post: I just started a website to acquire and share genealogical books. I have some books, maps, local histories, and databases on PA. Plus we'll be adding more, later this month. Check it out, let me know why you think and email me with any comments or suggestions. www.genbooksource.com ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== Lebanon County Historical Society Home Page: <http://www.lebanonhistory.org>

John Moore THOME "John Macon Thome, born in Palmyra, PA. Attended Lehigh University, PA. In 1885 he succeeded Benjamin A. Gould (from Harvard U.) as the director of the Argentine National Observatory (Observatorio Astronomico de Cordoba) in 1885. Under Thome's initiative the Cordoba Durchmusterung star catalogue began to be complied in 1892, declinations -22 to -90. (This star catalogue was a follow up to the Bonner Durchmusterung star catalogue: epoch 1855.0.) Thome died in 1908 in Cordoba." He is also listed as: John Macom Thome and Juan M. Thome. I am wondering if his wife and any children? stayed in Argentina or came back to the US: PA.? In researching in Lebanon Co., PA. (Palmyra is in this county) he is listed as: John Moore Thome married to Frances Wall. John Moore Thome's parents are: Dr. Samuel Henry and Margaret Jeffries Thome of Palmyra, PA. (6 children). I am very interested in finding any decendents of this family as I have a photo which "might" be of Dr. Samuel Henry Thome's parents and am trying to see if any other family members have the same photo. Two of these photos exist, that I have found: Neither have any identification on them!, but one is in a Thome family Bible. The Thome family in Lebanon Co., PA. from the Thome side are Scot-Irish -- according to church records (Salem Lutheran Church, Lebanon, PA.) and family verbal history. I have more family information. If anyone is researching this family I would certainly like to be in touch. Sue

It's a great site! I plan on using it to find information on Col. Joseph Woods who served in the Revolutionary War. Dennis Wood, Palmyra

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jdB.2ACI/525 Message Board Post: I just started a website to acquire and share genealogical books. I have some books, maps, local histories, and databases on PA. Plus we’ll be adding more, later this month. Check it out, let me know why you think and email me with any comments or suggestions. www.genbooksource.com