This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Henry-Werick Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jdB.2ACI/530 Message Board Post: I am researching a Robert Henry who married Elizabeth Werick around 1860. Any help would be appreciated. Ann

THE HANOVER TOWNSHIPS I would like for someone who knows the territory to tell me if I have the evolution of the Hanover Townships of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties correct. Here is what I think: First there was just one big Hanover Township that was, until 1785, in the northern part of Lancaster County. Although not official until 1785, there was much talk about splitting it up into East Hanover and West Hanover. When Dauphin County spun off of Lancaster County in 1785, the old Hanover Township split into two parts: East Hanover Township and West Hanover Township, both townships now being in Dauphin County. This is how it remained until 1813 when a new county, Lebanon County, spun off of Dauphin County. The 1813 Dauphin-Lebanon county line divided the old East Hanover Township into two parts. The larger part of the old East Hanover Township now became the new East Hanover Township of Lebanon County. The remaining (smaller) part of the old East Hanover Township remained in Dauphin County and was enlarged to include some of the eastern part of the old West Hanover Township. The new East Hanover Township of Dauphin County was the result. The old West Hanover Township of Dauphin County remained except that its eastern part became part of the new East Hanover Township. This resulted in the two Hanover Townships of Dauphin County being of more equal size. The bottom line is that the original Hanover Township was split into two parts in 1785, and into three parts in 1813, the latter split resulting in two East Hanovers in two different counties. The really confusing part about all this for genealogists is that quite a few ancestors lived and died in West Hanover Township, Dauphin County, in the period 1785-1813, but when you go to find them today it turns out that they lived and died in what is now East Hanover Township, Dauphin County. One of my ancestors actually first settled in the western part of East Hanover, Dauphin (now Lebanon). He resettled a mile or two to the west to (now) East Hanover, Dauphin. But his land and estate records in Harrisburg say West Hanover, Dauphin. Is there not a nice map, with overlays, that shows the boundaries of the Hanover Townships for the three periods: before 1785; 1785-1813; after 1813? If not, someone familiar with Dauphin County should draw one, maybe with the help of someone familiar with Lebanon County. Any volunteers? I, for one, would buy such a map. Dwayne Wrightsman Lee, NH

Neil, I have good news for you. Yes, John Rauch's farm was called Dry Mountain. It was 148 acres when he bought it from John Moyer in 1761. It is just north of Swatara Creek north of Palmyra in Eastern Lebanon County. It's up-creek (north) from Bindnagle Church. "Hauber Tauber" was the only tract between Rauch's and Swatara Creek, so I imagine the mill was actually on Hauber Tauber, which was about 120 acres (warranted by Michael Carpenter in 1754, and patented by Frederick Beakle in 1770). I have deeds and maps of the tracts and the area that I will copy and snail mail to you if you want them. What you may want to buy is James B. Wolfson, "Warrant, Patent & Survey Records, East Hanover Township, Lebanon County, PA," complete with map, which you can buy from the Pennsylvania Archives in Harrisburg. If it is convenient for you to email me your copy of the Rauch to Brown deed, I would like that very much. Dwayne Wrightsman dwayne55@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <NEILEL@aol.com> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [PALEBANO] Rauch Family of Hanover Township > > Dwayne, > > Thanks so much for that information. I believe it was in Egle's history > where Michael Brown's mill is mentioned. It would be where the 1785-1813 > Dauphin-Lancaster boundary crossed Swatara Creek. > > There were two other parcels of land that were adjacent to the tract he > bought from John Rauch. One of them had a name "Hauber Tauber." The > land he > bought (140 acres) from John Rauch was called "Dry Mountain." I'm > pretty sure > 1/4 mile from Swatara Creek would qualify as being adjacent to his mill > property since his total land holdings there amounted to more than 300 > acres. > > Would you happen to know if this property is upstream or downstream from > Bindnagel's Church? > > Incidentally I have a transcribed copy of the deed if you would like me to > email it. > > Neil E. > > In a message dated 11/15/2005 5:36:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dwayne55@comcast.net writes: > > Neil, > > I know where John Rauch's farm (now in East Hanover, Lebanon County) was > that he bought in 1761, but it was about a quarter mile north of Swatara > Creek. I do not know where his other tracts were other than those in > West > Hanover, Dauphin County, when he died. The time period 1770 you are > looking > at would have been land in Lancaster County. The confusion about where > the > various Hanovers were in the three periods--before 1785, 1785-1813, after > 1813--is common to us all. I still don't have it figured out. The > boundaries are discussed in Egle's History (now on line), but I don't > think > he drew a map. Still, his account is extremely accessible and definitely > worth reading. > > Dwayne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <NEILEL@aol.com> > To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:03 PM > Subject: Re: [PALEBANO] Rauch Family of Hanover Township > > >> >> >> My ancestor Michael Braun (Brown) bought land from John Rauch in 1770 on >> which he built a sawmill and grist mill on Swatara Creek. I have been >> trying >> unsuccessfully to find this location. On a history of Dauphin County, >> it >> mentions that the mills were one of the points that delineated the >> boundary >> between Dauphin and Lancaster County (before Lebanon County was >> created), >> but I >> have been unable to find any maps that showed the boundaries between >> the >> years >> 1785 and 1813. Would anyone happen to know where this land lies? >> >> Neil E. >> Folsom, CA >> >> >> In a message dated 11/14/2005 2:44:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> dwayne55@comcast.net writes: >> >> >> THE RAUCH FAMILY OF HANOVER TOWNSHIP >> >> Here's some interesting information about the Rauch/Rough family that >> lived >> in the Hanover Townships of Lancaster County, PA, during the >> Revolutionary >> War. Three members of the family between the ages of 18 and 53 were >> enrolled in the Fourth Company of the Ninth Battalion of the Lancaster >> County Militia in 1781 and 1782 according to pages 934-936, 954-955, of >> Vol. >> VII of Series 5 of the Pennsylvania Archives. >> >> One was John Rough (Rauch) who is known to have died in 1803. >> Interestingly, since he was 53 or under in 1782, he was born in 1729 >> or >> after. Almost all genealogy entries on the Internet have his birth at >> 1726 >> or younger, indicating that these entries cannot be documented. >> >> A second was William Rough (Rauch) who was the oldest son of John Rough >> (Rauch). He was born in 1760 according to the Hill Reformed Church >> records. >> >> The third was a Barnet/Bernet Rough. According to Egle's History of >> Dauphin >> and Lebanon Counties, Barnet Rough paid taxes on 100 acres in Hanover >> Township, Lancaster County, in 1781. On the same list was Rev. John >> Rough >> with 180 acres. How John got the title of Reverend I do not know. Was >> he >> addressed this way on the tax records, or did Egle know something that >> we >> don't know? >> >> Who was this Barnet/Bernet Rough? Old Bernard Rough of Bethel >> Township, >> possibly a relative of John Rough, had died long before 1781. Old >> Bernard >> Rough's son Bernard was living at the time in Jonestown in the part of >> Bethel Township that is now Swatara Township. John Rough's youngest >> son >> Bernard was not even close to being age 18 at the time. So we are left >> with >> a Barnet Rough who, to this writer's knowledge, has not been >> identified. >> >> Dwayne Wrightsman >> Lee, NH >> >> >> ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >> Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: >> <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >> to contact list administrator: travis21_98@yahoo.com >> > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Mid-Atlantic Roots Network: > <http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/> > > > > > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Always cite your sources when posting information! >

Dwayne, Thanks so much for that information. I believe it was in Egle's history where Michael Brown's mill is mentioned. It would be where the 1785-1813 Dauphin-Lancaster boundary crossed Swatara Creek. There were two other parcels of land that were adjacent to the tract he bought from John Rauch. One of them had a name "Hauber Tauber." The land he bought (140 acres) from John Rauch was called "Dry Mountain." I'm pretty sure 1/4 mile from Swatara Creek would qualify as being adjacent to his mill property since his total land holdings there amounted to more than 300 acres. Would you happen to know if this property is upstream or downstream from Bindnagel's Church? Incidentally I have a transcribed copy of the deed if you would like me to email it. Neil E. In a message dated 11/15/2005 5:36:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dwayne55@comcast.net writes: Neil, I know where John Rauch's farm (now in East Hanover, Lebanon County) was that he bought in 1761, but it was about a quarter mile north of Swatara Creek. I do not know where his other tracts were other than those in West Hanover, Dauphin County, when he died. The time period 1770 you are looking at would have been land in Lancaster County. The confusion about where the various Hanovers were in the three periods--before 1785, 1785-1813, after 1813--is common to us all. I still don't have it figured out. The boundaries are discussed in Egle's History (now on line), but I don't think he drew a map. Still, his account is extremely accessible and definitely worth reading. Dwayne ----- Original Message ----- From: <NEILEL@aol.com> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [PALEBANO] Rauch Family of Hanover Township > > > My ancestor Michael Braun (Brown) bought land from John Rauch in 1770 on > which he built a sawmill and grist mill on Swatara Creek. I have been > trying > unsuccessfully to find this location. On a history of Dauphin County, it > mentions that the mills were one of the points that delineated the > boundary > between Dauphin and Lancaster County (before Lebanon County was created), > but I > have been unable to find any maps that showed the boundaries between the > years > 1785 and 1813. Would anyone happen to know where this land lies? > > Neil E. > Folsom, CA > > > In a message dated 11/14/2005 2:44:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dwayne55@comcast.net writes: > > > THE RAUCH FAMILY OF HANOVER TOWNSHIP > > Here's some interesting information about the Rauch/Rough family that > lived > in the Hanover Townships of Lancaster County, PA, during the > Revolutionary > War. Three members of the family between the ages of 18 and 53 were > enrolled in the Fourth Company of the Ninth Battalion of the Lancaster > County Militia in 1781 and 1782 according to pages 934-936, 954-955, of > Vol. > VII of Series 5 of the Pennsylvania Archives. > > One was John Rough (Rauch) who is known to have died in 1803. > Interestingly, since he was 53 or under in 1782, he was born in 1729 or > after. Almost all genealogy entries on the Internet have his birth at > 1726 > or younger, indicating that these entries cannot be documented. > > A second was William Rough (Rauch) who was the oldest son of John Rough > (Rauch). He was born in 1760 according to the Hill Reformed Church > records. > > The third was a Barnet/Bernet Rough. According to Egle's History of > Dauphin > and Lebanon Counties, Barnet Rough paid taxes on 100 acres in Hanover > Township, Lancaster County, in 1781. On the same list was Rev. John > Rough > with 180 acres. How John got the title of Reverend I do not know. Was > he > addressed this way on the tax records, or did Egle know something that we > don't know? > > Who was this Barnet/Bernet Rough? Old Bernard Rough of Bethel Township, > possibly a relative of John Rough, had died long before 1781. Old > Bernard > Rough's son Bernard was living at the time in Jonestown in the part of > Bethel Township that is now Swatara Township. John Rough's youngest son > Bernard was not even close to being age 18 at the time. So we are left > with > a Barnet Rough who, to this writer's knowledge, has not been identified. > > Dwayne Wrightsman > Lee, NH > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: > <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> > > > > > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > to contact list administrator: travis21_98@yahoo.com > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== Mid-Atlantic Roots Network: <http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/>

Neil, I know where John Rauch's farm (now in East Hanover, Lebanon County) was that he bought in 1761, but it was about a quarter mile north of Swatara Creek. I do not know where his other tracts were other than those in West Hanover, Dauphin County, when he died. The time period 1770 you are looking at would have been land in Lancaster County. The confusion about where the various Hanovers were in the three periods--before 1785, 1785-1813, after 1813--is common to us all. I still don't have it figured out. The boundaries are discussed in Egle's History (now on line), but I don't think he drew a map. Still, his account is extremely accessible and definitely worth reading. Dwayne ----- Original Message ----- From: <NEILEL@aol.com> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [PALEBANO] Rauch Family of Hanover Township > > > My ancestor Michael Braun (Brown) bought land from John Rauch in 1770 on > which he built a sawmill and grist mill on Swatara Creek. I have been > trying > unsuccessfully to find this location. On a history of Dauphin County, it > mentions that the mills were one of the points that delineated the > boundary > between Dauphin and Lancaster County (before Lebanon County was created), > but I > have been unable to find any maps that showed the boundaries between the > years > 1785 and 1813. Would anyone happen to know where this land lies? > > Neil E. > Folsom, CA > > > In a message dated 11/14/2005 2:44:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dwayne55@comcast.net writes: > > > THE RAUCH FAMILY OF HANOVER TOWNSHIP > > Here's some interesting information about the Rauch/Rough family that > lived > in the Hanover Townships of Lancaster County, PA, during the > Revolutionary > War. Three members of the family between the ages of 18 and 53 were > enrolled in the Fourth Company of the Ninth Battalion of the Lancaster > County Militia in 1781 and 1782 according to pages 934-936, 954-955, of > Vol. > VII of Series 5 of the Pennsylvania Archives. > > One was John Rough (Rauch) who is known to have died in 1803. > Interestingly, since he was 53 or under in 1782, he was born in 1729 or > after. Almost all genealogy entries on the Internet have his birth at > 1726 > or younger, indicating that these entries cannot be documented. > > A second was William Rough (Rauch) who was the oldest son of John Rough > (Rauch). He was born in 1760 according to the Hill Reformed Church > records. > > The third was a Barnet/Bernet Rough. According to Egle's History of > Dauphin > and Lebanon Counties, Barnet Rough paid taxes on 100 acres in Hanover > Township, Lancaster County, in 1781. On the same list was Rev. John > Rough > with 180 acres. How John got the title of Reverend I do not know. Was > he > addressed this way on the tax records, or did Egle know something that we > don't know? > > Who was this Barnet/Bernet Rough? Old Bernard Rough of Bethel Township, > possibly a relative of John Rough, had died long before 1781. Old > Bernard > Rough's son Bernard was living at the time in Jonestown in the part of > Bethel Township that is now Swatara Township. John Rough's youngest son > Bernard was not even close to being age 18 at the time. So we are left > with > a Barnet Rough who, to this writer's knowledge, has not been identified. > > Dwayne Wrightsman > Lee, NH > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: > <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> > > > > > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > to contact list administrator: travis21_98@yahoo.com >

My ancestor Michael Braun (Brown) bought land from John Rauch in 1770 on which he built a sawmill and grist mill on Swatara Creek. I have been trying unsuccessfully to find this location. On a history of Dauphin County, it mentions that the mills were one of the points that delineated the boundary between Dauphin and Lancaster County (before Lebanon County was created), but I have been unable to find any maps that showed the boundaries between the years 1785 and 1813. Would anyone happen to know where this land lies? Neil E. Folsom, CA In a message dated 11/14/2005 2:44:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dwayne55@comcast.net writes: THE RAUCH FAMILY OF HANOVER TOWNSHIP Here's some interesting information about the Rauch/Rough family that lived in the Hanover Townships of Lancaster County, PA, during the Revolutionary War. Three members of the family between the ages of 18 and 53 were enrolled in the Fourth Company of the Ninth Battalion of the Lancaster County Militia in 1781 and 1782 according to pages 934-936, 954-955, of Vol. VII of Series 5 of the Pennsylvania Archives. One was John Rough (Rauch) who is known to have died in 1803. Interestingly, since he was 53 or under in 1782, he was born in 1729 or after. Almost all genealogy entries on the Internet have his birth at 1726 or younger, indicating that these entries cannot be documented. A second was William Rough (Rauch) who was the oldest son of John Rough (Rauch). He was born in 1760 according to the Hill Reformed Church records. The third was a Barnet/Bernet Rough. According to Egle's History of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties, Barnet Rough paid taxes on 100 acres in Hanover Township, Lancaster County, in 1781. On the same list was Rev. John Rough with 180 acres. How John got the title of Reverend I do not know. Was he addressed this way on the tax records, or did Egle know something that we don't know? Who was this Barnet/Bernet Rough? Old Bernard Rough of Bethel Township, possibly a relative of John Rough, had died long before 1781. Old Bernard Rough's son Bernard was living at the time in Jonestown in the part of Bethel Township that is now Swatara Township. John Rough's youngest son Bernard was not even close to being age 18 at the time. So we are left with a Barnet Rough who, to this writer's knowledge, has not been identified. Dwayne Wrightsman Lee, NH ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/>

THE RAUCH FAMILY OF HANOVER TOWNSHIP Here's some interesting information about the Rauch/Rough family that lived in the Hanover Townships of Lancaster County, PA, during the Revolutionary War. Three members of the family between the ages of 18 and 53 were enrolled in the Fourth Company of the Ninth Battalion of the Lancaster County Militia in 1781 and 1782 according to pages 934-936, 954-955, of Vol. VII of Series 5 of the Pennsylvania Archives. One was John Rough (Rauch) who is known to have died in 1803. Interestingly, since he was 53 or under in 1782, he was born in 1729 or after. Almost all genealogy entries on the Internet have his birth at 1726 or younger, indicating that these entries cannot be documented. A second was William Rough (Rauch) who was the oldest son of John Rough (Rauch). He was born in 1760 according to the Hill Reformed Church records. The third was a Barnet/Bernet Rough. According to Egle's History of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties, Barnet Rough paid taxes on 100 acres in Hanover Township, Lancaster County, in 1781. On the same list was Rev. John Rough with 180 acres. How John got the title of Reverend I do not know. Was he addressed this way on the tax records, or did Egle know something that we don't know? Who was this Barnet/Bernet Rough? Old Bernard Rough of Bethel Township, possibly a relative of John Rough, had died long before 1781. Old Bernard Rough's son Bernard was living at the time in Jonestown in the part of Bethel Township that is now Swatara Township. John Rough's youngest son Bernard was not even close to being age 18 at the time. So we are left with a Barnet Rough who, to this writer's knowledge, has not been identified. Dwayne Wrightsman Lee, NH

Diana, I see I need to respond to the second half of your post, as well- Edwin and his wife. Edwin, per page 342 of the same FERNSLER book, was born 26 March 1874- birth date, no baptism date, per Salem Lutheran Church records. Married Anna/Annie M. SMITH on Oct. 8, 1898, per Lebanon County Marriage records. On the 1900 census, Edwin and wife, Annie M., were living next door to his parents in So. Lebanon Twp. They had been married one year and had no children at this point. Anna Maria SMITH was born Feb. 1, 1874, in No. Cornwall Twp., Lebanon County, PA, the daughter of Christian and Annie M. BACHMAN SMITH. She died Sept. 5, 1939, in Lebanon. On the 1920 census for Lebanon Co., E.D. 195, Sheet 4A, Line 37, living on Lebanon Road, Edwin appears with wife and six children, all born in Lebanon Co. There is a notation in the FERNSLER book that this research was done by David J. Bachman and submitted by Ronald Fernsler. Donna Ristenbatt On 13 Nov 2005 at 17:02, DMHEBNER@aol.com wrote: Date forwarded: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:02:17 -0700 From: DMHEBNER@aol.com Date sent: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:02:00 EST To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Send reply to: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PALEBANO] Fernsler family > Looking for information on Adam B. Fernsler (born about 1847) and his wife > Emma S. (also born about 1847). They were listed in the 1880 census (and > later years) as living in South Lebanon, Lebanon County, Pennsylvania. > > I would like to find out the maiden name of Emma, listed above. > > Also interested in their son, Edwin Donneberger Fernsler who was born in > Lebanon Co. in 1874 and married Annie Maria (maiden name unknown). > > Any information on this Fernsler family, or ancestors or descendants, would > be most welcome........Diana M. Hebner _dmhebner@aol.com_ > (mailto:dmhebner@aol.com) > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Mid-Atlantic Roots Network: > <http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/> > >

I will have to look through my Fernslers. I have several connections to the family from that area. Pat Morano ----- Original Message ----- From: <DMHEBNER@aol.com> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Fernsler family > Looking for information on Adam B. Fernsler (born about 1847) and his wife > Emma S. (also born about 1847). They were listed in the 1880 census (and > later years) as living in South Lebanon, Lebanon County, Pennsylvania. > > I would like to find out the maiden name of Emma, listed above. > > Also interested in their son, Edwin Donneberger Fernsler who was born in > Lebanon Co. in 1874 and married Annie Maria (maiden name unknown). > > Any information on this Fernsler family, or ancestors or descendants, > would > be most welcome........Diana M. Hebner _dmhebner@aol.com_ > (mailto:dmhebner@aol.com) > > ______________________________

Diana, A FERNSLER book has been written by Clerice Fisher and Ron Fernsler, The Posterity of Johann Philip & Maria Barbara FERNSLER (FARNSLER, FENSLER, FANSLER), published 2003. On page 127, Adam B. FERNSLER appears as # 3164, son of Philip FERNSLER and Elisabeth BOMBERGER. (Elisabeth was the daughter of Joseph Sr. and Elizabeth Smith BOMBERGER.) Adam B. FERNSLER, it states, appears in the baptism records of Salem Lutheran Church with a birth date of 29 Sept. 1847 in one translation, and in another copy the date was 23 Sept. On page 204, the book states: "Due to the fact that marriage records were not kept by the counties until about 1885, we did not find a marriage record for Adam and Emma, but the burial records of Kimmerling Cemetery show Emma DENEBERGER, born 17 Feb. 1847, died 7 June 1928, the wife of Adam B. FERNSLER. Adam's dates are given as 23 Sept. 1847 to 6 April 1929." A photo then appears of Adam and Emma FERNSLER and their grown children.- Allen, Samuel, Philip, Katie, Edwin, Elizabeth and Amy. Donna Ristenbatt On 13 Nov 2005 at 17:02, DMHEBNER@aol.com wrote: Date forwarded: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:02:17 -0700 From: DMHEBNER@aol.com Date sent: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:02:00 EST To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Send reply to: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PALEBANO] Fernsler family > Looking for information on Adam B. Fernsler (born about 1847) and his wife > Emma S. (also born about 1847). They were listed in the 1880 census (and > later years) as living in South Lebanon, Lebanon County, Pennsylvania. > > I would like to find out the maiden name of Emma, listed above. > > Also interested in their son, Edwin Donneberger Fernsler who was born in > Lebanon Co. in 1874 and married Annie Maria (maiden name unknown). > > Any information on this Fernsler family, or ancestors or descendants, would > be most welcome........Diana M. Hebner _dmhebner@aol.com_ > (mailto:dmhebner@aol.com) > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Mid-Atlantic Roots Network: > <http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/> > >

> Looking for information on Adam B. Fernsler (born about 1847) and his wife > Emma S. (also born about 1847). > Any information on this Fernsler family, or ancestors or descendants, would > be most welcome........Diana M. Hebner Diana: E-mail me at: charo@nbn.net. I believe that I might have a daughter of Adam & Emma in my KINDT line. Charles E. Kindt - Lebanon,Pa. Genealogy research in Pa.Counties; LEBANON-LANCASTER-DAUPHIN-BERKS-SCHUYLKILL website: http://users.nbn.net/charo/

Looking for information on Adam B. Fernsler (born about 1847) and his wife Emma S. (also born about 1847). They were listed in the 1880 census (and later years) as living in South Lebanon, Lebanon County, Pennsylvania. I would like to find out the maiden name of Emma, listed above. Also interested in their son, Edwin Donneberger Fernsler who was born in Lebanon Co. in 1874 and married Annie Maria (maiden name unknown). Any information on this Fernsler family, or ancestors or descendants, would be most welcome........Diana M. Hebner _dmhebner@aol.com_ (mailto:dmhebner@aol.com)

Hello Mary, I know a little about part of the Embich family, but I have not heard of this couple. If you learn anything about Sarah: parents, children, location, kinfolk, please let me know. Perhaps then I can give you more info in return. One Embich family who lived in Lebanon about that time were members of Salem Evangelical Lutheran Church at 8th and Willow Sts.,Lebanon 17046. They have very good records and are reputed to be helpful. Fred Frantz, researching Embich and Shindel families

Children of John Jacob Dubbs and Eve (Eva) Louser 1- Anna Maria Dubbs, B: Dec.17, 1810. Lebanon, Pa. Died: Aug. 1873 2- Catanna Dubbs, B: May 5, 1814 Leb.Pa. Died: Aug.30, 1892 3-Rebecca Dubbs, B: Aug.24,1816, Leb.Pa. Died: Aug.30, 1892 4-Henry Dubbs, B: abt. 1818, Leb,Pa. 5- George Dubbs, B: Feb.17, 1819, Leb. Pa. 6-Barara Dubbs, B: June 30, 1821, Leb. Pa. Died: Mar.8, 1901 7- Elizabeth Dubbs, B: Jan.13,1824, Leb. Pa. Died: May 9, 1898 8-Christian Dubbs, B; Oct.24,1828 Leb.Pa. Died:Sept.11, 1910 9-Maria Dubbs, B: Sept. 15, 1831, Leb. Pa. 10-Susan Dubbs, B: Oct.1, 1833, Leb. Pa.( My Line) Died: May 17, 1899 11-ROSANNA (Rose) Dubbs, B: Nov.19,1837 Leb. Pa. Died: May 3,1915 Leb.Pa. Buried: Mt. Lebanon Cemetery. Leb. Pa. 12-John Dubbs, B: abt: 1839 Leb.Pa. On Monday, November 7, 2005, at 04:11 PM, Frederick S. Frantz, Jr. wrote: > In the U.S. Census for Lebanon Pa. the household of Frederick > Embich includes Elizabeth DUBBS, age 26, as a servant. Was she a > relative > of Frederich's wife, Lucetta Doebler? > NOTE: that Lucetta's grandfather, Anthony Doebler had a sister, Anna > Barbara Doebler, married to Heinrich Dubs and had a son, John Jacob > DUBBS. IF he had a daughter, Elizabeth, she would be a 2nd cousin of > Lucetta. > John Jacob had another daughter, Rebecca, who married Joseph > Shindel, the s/o of John Shindel and Sara Embich. Can someone list all > the children of John Jacob Dubbs & Eve Louser? > > Fred Frantz, researching Embich and Shindel families > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > to contact list administrator: travis21_98@yahoo.com > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jdB.2ACI/529 Message Board Post: Looking for death dates and burial (cemetery) information for the following family: William H. Poorman, 1870-1961, wife Minerva Templin, 1873-1927. Children: Mamie, born 1890 Leo Reuben, 1892 - 1967 Arthur H., 1894-1977 Stella May 1896 William H. 1898-1981 Violet - 1905 Edith - 1909 Any information on this lineage is greatly appreciated.

In regard to the query on Sarah Embich, born December 2, 1810: I am curious, as this is the marriage date of my 3rd great-grandparents Sarah Embich and John Shindel. Is it possible some dates got turned around? Or is this just a coincidence? Mike Johnston >A few days ago there was a query relative to Sarah EMBICH, b. 2 >Dec 1810 in Lebanon. If your query was not answered, please e-mail me >directly. >Fred Frantz

A few days ago there was a query relative to Sarah EMBICH, b. 2 Dec 1810 in Lebanon. If your query was not answered, please e-mail me directly. Fred Frantz

I agree. I would hope that we can all share news of such accomplishments without prejudice. Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA On 11/7/05 11:44 PM, "Jerry Herman" <jhswissman@qconline.com> wrote: > I disagree that the letter about the Weber book was an "advertisement"! > Being a descendant of the Weber family, I was very happy to hear that the book > will be available and have ordered one already. Marlene Leber has worked > diligently on this family history and helped many, including myself, with > their research. I am sure many of us really appreciate her efforts. For her > to announce the availability of the book on this site and on the PABerks site > was the best way to let all parties interested know about it. > > Accolades to Marlene......Cheer up Georgia! > > Shirley Herman > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: > <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> > >

My sincere apologies to all. I wanted to send a reply to an individual and didn't check the address. I'm so sorry.

She did all the work and had it published and all, why should she be a dumb shit like us and just hand it out to anybody who wants it? We both learned our lesson on that one I think. -----Original Message----- From: Charles Kindt [mailto:charo@nbn.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 02:05 PM To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PALEBANO] Re:Weber Book > I disagree that the letter about the Weber book was an > "advertisement"! Being a descendant of the Weber family, I was very > happy to hear that the book will be available and have ordered one > already. Marlene Leber has worked diligently on this family history > and helped many, including myself, with their research. I am sure > many of us really appreciate her efforts. For her to announce the > availability of the book on this site and on the PABerks site was the > best way to let all parties interested know about it. Accolades to > Marlene......Cheer up Georgia! Shirley Herman I can only say AMEN to the above remarks! I think that e-mail gave Marlene a "bum rap". >From another WEBER descendent. Charles Kindt Lebanon, Pa. website: http://users.nbn.net/charo/ ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/>