I have certainly had wide experience with using SAR, DAR and LDS sources, and they all have their strengths and shortcomings. One always needs to treat information without documentation with skepticism. The problem with SAR and DAR sources is that they are limited to those families who qualify as supporters of the Revolution, and that their early sources were often entirely bogus. (I found my ancestor James McMullan on the DAR rolls even though I could document from LDS sources that he was busy tending his farm in York County when he was supposed to be at sea). As someone has already pointed out there is a great difference in reliability in LDS sources depending upon whether they were submissions from a person or from a source. I once knew how to tell the difference but I seem to have forgotten how. About a year ago while in the DAR library in Washington DC, I came across some information in one of their books that I knew to be incorrect. When I pointed it out to the librarian she instructed me to make a pencil correction in the blank space on the page, even though I had no documentation with me. (I left it alone). In a message dated 7/17/2006 8:22:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, brivas1@cox.net writes: I can verify what both Dwayne and Michael have said. Some 20 years ago, I helped an aunt process quite a few additional lines. I had each one with solid documentation, meaning mostly court records, copies of bible pages, etc. But I have seen all too many errors in the LSD information. I will not give them mine because they also have a tendency to wrap it up and put it on a CD and then sell it back to you. I've seen people take some of my information and paste it all over Ancestry.com, and other places, and I know there are errors in the information to begin with since some of it was not fully documented and researched. But these errors will be copied, and passed on, and people will believe it's the truth. Unfortunately, people have a tendency to think that because something is "printed" it's the gospel truth. Far from it. If I had to choose, there would be no hesitation: DAR information anytime as long as it's of the more "modern" type. michaeljohnston1@comcast.net wrote: >As registrar for my local NSSAR chapter, I can vouch for the accuracy and completeness of DAR applications. The same can be said of SAR applications. > >ANYTHING located via the LDS should be taken with a very health dose of salt. In regard to my own lineage I have found numerous errors of significant magnitude that I have contacted the LDS in Salt Lake City in an effort to have it corrected, and have offered to submit the appropriate documentation. They were not interested. Which means erroneous and inaccurate data regarding my family is floating around on the Internet and being propagated by those unaware of it's faulty genesis. In one instance it regarded my ancestors from Lebanon County who fought in the American Revolution. > >My personal advise is to use the LDS information as a guide and pre-cursor only, but NOT as solid documentation or proof. Genealogy without solid documentation is fiction. > >As with the DAR, a record copy of an SAR application can be obtained, and if requested, so can the documentation that accompanied the application if you're willing to pay the fee. The following link http://www.sar.org/forms/reqcopy.pdf will take you to the NSSAR form to request a record copy of an SAR application. The same data can be requested from the DAR. However, their cost is $30 for a record copy. > >Neither the SAR or DAR accepts Internet-generated genealogy without other forms of proof to substantiate it. Each generation should have some form of birth, marriage and death documents - and the more the better. > >I'm not attempting to give the LDS a black eye. But I have had to return applications from prospective SAR members who think if it's on the LDS search site, it must be gospel - and that just ain't so. > >Regards, > >Mike Johnston >Fox Valley Chapter, ILSSAR >www.foxsar.org > > >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: "Jack and Kay Lund" <lundgolf@earthlink.net> > > > >>Tony, >> >>I have found that there is a huge difference between what the DAR >>requires and what the LDS will accept. Although I do plan to submit my >>family information to our local LDS, so other researchers might benefit, I >>was surprised to learn that the data entered into their records does not >>have to be documented. Applications for membership in the DAR must be >>documented and verified for every generation, first by the chapter Registrar >>and then by the DAR staff in DC. I have found their record copies to be >>extremely helpful and reliable. The one I recently received for Johannes >>Beshore, lists 11 different resource references, including page numbers, >>just for his generation alone. That's a lot of proof! >> >> >> >>By the way, anyone can go to dar.org and get Patriot information >>through a DAR volunteer. If I can help, please don't hesitate to ask. I >>will just need the Patriot's state of service, in addition to dob and spouse >>name, if known. >> >> >> >>Marcia >> >> >> >>==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >>Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: >> >> >> >> > > >==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: ><http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> > > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== Access Pennsylvania On-Line Library Catalogue: <http://accesspa.brodart.com/>

Unless you can find something newer, I think that following the trail shows that Ancestry.com is indeed owned by the LDS church: http://www.infobaseventures.com/our_companies.html Infobases Inc. Founded in 1990 by Paul Allen and Dan Taggart. Published religious and educational software on CD-ROM. An Inc. 500 company in 1996, growing from $0 to $4 million in revenue in its first five years. Acquired Bookcraft, Inc. in 1997. Acquired by Deseret Management Corp in 1999. Infobases, Inc. invested in Ancestry, a 13-year old print publishing company, in May 1996 and became its managing shareholder. Later, Infobases acquired 100% of Ancestry from its original founder, John Sittner. By July 1997, Paul Allen and Dan Taggart were running Ancestry as a company independent from Infobases and began building the world's largest online genealogy database and subscription service. Ancestry.com changed its name to MyFamily.com in November 1999. MyFamily.com was launched in December 1998 and quickly became one of the fastest growing community web sites in history, gaining 1 million registered users in its first 140 days. Led by CEO Curt Allen, the company raised more than $90 million in venture capital from investors such as Intel, CMGI, AOL, Kodak, Compaq, Sorenson, Esnet, Vspring and Tango Partners. Today, MyFamily.com owns Ancestry.com, Rootsweb, Genealogy.com and is the leading genealogy company in the world. According to the New York Times (Oct 2002), sales for 2002 were projected at $62 million. 2003 sales were $99 million. CEO: Tom Stockham AND - if you check out Deseret Management Corp, you'll find the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_Management_Corporation The Deseret Management Corporation is a for-profit management company of assets for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Kathryn Parson wrote: >Ancestry.com is not owned by the LDS church. There are some LDS members that work there and run the site. >The LDS genealogy archives in Salt Lake City do contain many records submitted by members as well as non-members of the LDS church. Many errors are found there because of lack of knowledge in research and piggy-backing of the records. >Unfortunately those records were seldom documented as they were submitted as their own family lines. The church is in the process of a huge clean-up of the records which is costing an incredible amount of money and man hours and will be ready soon to begin to accept documented lines to be submitted by anyone who wishes to do so. And of course Salt Lake Family History Library is the repository of massive amounts of actual documents and records that have been photo copied from all over the world, from churches to court houses. It is a wonderful place to research and they even have copies of records that only exist there when old churches have finally burned or had floods or such things. The church was in the process of filming the records in New Orleans just before it was flooded and those records were saved and now the church will give the city copies of the records that they would have lost forever. I am a member of the LDS church and have been involved in research for! ! > many years and YES, I do document my records. Unfortunately I didn't in the early days, as many of you have learned to do. >Kathryn > > >==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: ><http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> > > > > >

Question: Does anyone know if Ancestry.com and it's products, such as One World Tree, are affiliated with the LDS church? All of the principals graduated from BYU. Ann

I'm not a member of the LDS, so I'm speaking as an observer. My understanding from LDS friends is that the organization now has people vetting new submissions to the ancestral files and the IGI. Older submissions weren't vetted and often were not accurate. Generally I use LDS postings as guidelines on places to look. But the same is true of ancestry.com's OneWorldTree. A lot of the posted information is undocumented, and some of it is wrong, too. If you can't go to the places where your ancestors lived, the LDS Family History Centers at least provide access to a lot of historical records on microfilm. Richard Aurand Sherer

In a message dated 7/17/2006 11:02:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dwayne55@comcast.net writes: > The LDS records are a mixed bag. Those that are submitted by members of > the > LDS are often (if not usually) undocumented. However, the LDS has one of > the world's largest collections of the images of old church records, > including births, baptisms, marriages, deaths, etc. If one knows how to > tell the difference between the wheat and the chaff, a research trip to the > LDS library and archives in Salt Lake can prove invaluable. Som e of the submitted information is truly worthless, even amusing. However, there are some gems online also. Various church records have been transcribed and put in the IGI databanks also. I have found no listing of these, but I have, through time, found some of them. The clue appears to be a batch number beginning with a c for christening or m for marriage. After the batch number there is a date range. For example: Salem Evangelical Lutheran Church, Lebanon, Lebanon, Pennsylvania batch # C504221 1763 - 1876 If you go to the IGI search screen, enter that batch number and put in North America for the region You can search the Salem baptism records. If you do that, and simply push search, if gives you the whole thing starting from A. Tony

Family Tree Maker, which is very good software, makes me a little afraid of it now as it's owned by Myfamily. What bother me was the rep. of the LDS of taking data and incorporated in their database without the owners permission. Jon Miller

Marcia, The degree of documentation required for membership in the DAR has improved significantly over the years. Unfortunately, there was a time when this was not the case. One of my distant cousins, now deceased, obtained DAR membership in the 1920s using Statthalter as a surname. It was not a real name. Instead it was a German word meaning place-holder, or, in more conventional terms, unknown. Another, closer-to-home case is my wife, who is a third-generation DAR member. She had to start all over because she was not allowed to piggy-back on the applications of her mother and her grandmother. In the old days, the piggy-back method was used all the time. The LDS records are a mixed bag. Those that are submitted by members of the LDS are often (if not usually) undocumented. However, the LDS has one of the world's largest collections of the images of old church records, including births, baptisms, marriages, deaths, etc. If one knows how to tell the difference between the wheat and the chaff, a research trip to the LDS library and archives in Salt Lake can prove invaluable. Dwayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack and Kay Lund" <lundgolf@earthlink.net> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: [PALEBANO] DAR vs LDS information > Tony, > > I have found that there is a huge difference between what the DAR > requires and what the LDS will accept. Although I do plan to submit my > family information to our local LDS, so other researchers might benefit, I > was surprised to learn that the data entered into their records does not > have to be documented. Applications for membership in the DAR must be > documented and verified for every generation, first by the chapter > Registrar > and then by the DAR staff in DC. I have found their record copies to be > extremely helpful and reliable. The one I recently received for Johannes > Beshore, lists 11 different resource references, including page numbers, > just for his generation alone. That's a lot of proof! > > > > By the way, anyone can go to dar.org and get Patriot information > through a DAR volunteer. If I can help, please don't hesitate to ask. I > will just need the Patriot's state of service, in addition to dob and > spouse > name, if known. > > > > Marcia > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: > <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> >

Ancestry.com is not owned by the LDS church. There are some LDS members that work there and run the site. The LDS genealogy archives in Salt Lake City do contain many records submitted by members as well as non-members of the LDS church. Many errors are found there because of lack of knowledge in research and piggy-backing of the records. Unfortunately those records were seldom documented as they were submitted as their own family lines. The church is in the process of a huge clean-up of the records which is costing an incredible amount of money and man hours and will be ready soon to begin to accept documented lines to be submitted by anyone who wishes to do so. And of course Salt Lake Family History Library is the repository of massive amounts of actual documents and records that have been photo copied from all over the world, from churches to court houses. It is a wonderful place to research and they even have copies of records that only exist there when old churches have finally burned or had floods or such things. The church was in the process of filming the records in New Orleans just before it was flooded and those records were saved and now the church will give the city copies of the records that they would have lost forever. I am a member of the LDS church and have been involved in research for ! many years and YES, I do document my records. Unfortunately I didn't in the early days, as many of you have learned to do. Kathryn

I agree. Probably, go back far enough, and something will happen. Did you notice though in that Michael Beshore list from that website, there were several Wolfe families. Jack and Kay Lund wrote: >Barbara, re Michael Beshore.Although I wish our lines were connected, >unfortunately, I came to the same conclusion. > >Marcia > > > >==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >Access Pennsylvania On-Line Library Catalogue: ><http://accesspa.brodart.com/> > > > > >

Barbara, re Michael Beshore.Although I wish our lines were connected, unfortunately, I came to the same conclusion. Marcia

I can verify what both Dwayne and Michael have said. Some 20 years ago, I helped an aunt process quite a few additional lines. I had each one with solid documentation, meaning mostly court records, copies of bible pages, etc. But I have seen all too many errors in the LSD information. I will not give them mine because they also have a tendency to wrap it up and put it on a CD and then sell it back to you. I've seen people take some of my information and paste it all over Ancestry.com, and other places, and I know there are errors in the information to begin with since some of it was not fully documented and researched. But these errors will be copied, and passed on, and people will believe it's the truth. Unfortunately, people have a tendency to think that because something is "printed" it's the gospel truth. Far from it. If I had to choose, there would be no hesitation: DAR information anytime as long as it's of the more "modern" type. michaeljohnston1@comcast.net wrote: >As registrar for my local NSSAR chapter, I can vouch for the accuracy and completeness of DAR applications. The same can be said of SAR applications. > >ANYTHING located via the LDS should be taken with a very health dose of salt. In regard to my own lineage I have found numerous errors of significant magnitude that I have contacted the LDS in Salt Lake City in an effort to have it corrected, and have offered to submit the appropriate documentation. They were not interested. Which means erroneous and inaccurate data regarding my family is floating around on the Internet and being propagated by those unaware of it's faulty genesis. In one instance it regarded my ancestors from Lebanon County who fought in the American Revolution. > >My personal advise is to use the LDS information as a guide and pre-cursor only, but NOT as solid documentation or proof. Genealogy without solid documentation is fiction. > >As with the DAR, a record copy of an SAR application can be obtained, and if requested, so can the documentation that accompanied the application if you're willing to pay the fee. The following link http://www.sar.org/forms/reqcopy.pdf will take you to the NSSAR form to request a record copy of an SAR application. The same data can be requested from the DAR. However, their cost is $30 for a record copy. > >Neither the SAR or DAR accepts Internet-generated genealogy without other forms of proof to substantiate it. Each generation should have some form of birth, marriage and death documents - and the more the better. > >I'm not attempting to give the LDS a black eye. But I have had to return applications from prospective SAR members who think if it's on the LDS search site, it must be gospel - and that just ain't so. > >Regards, > >Mike Johnston >Fox Valley Chapter, ILSSAR >www.foxsar.org > > >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: "Jack and Kay Lund" <lundgolf@earthlink.net> > > > >>Tony, >> >>I have found that there is a huge difference between what the DAR >>requires and what the LDS will accept. Although I do plan to submit my >>family information to our local LDS, so other researchers might benefit, I >>was surprised to learn that the data entered into their records does not >>have to be documented. Applications for membership in the DAR must be >>documented and verified for every generation, first by the chapter Registrar >>and then by the DAR staff in DC. I have found their record copies to be >>extremely helpful and reliable. The one I recently received for Johannes >>Beshore, lists 11 different resource references, including page numbers, >>just for his generation alone. That's a lot of proof! >> >> >> >>By the way, anyone can go to dar.org and get Patriot information >>through a DAR volunteer. If I can help, please don't hesitate to ask. I >>will just need the Patriot's state of service, in addition to dob and spouse >>name, if known. >> >> >> >>Marcia >> >> >> >>==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >>Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: >> >> >> >> > > >==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: ><http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> > > > > >

Tony, I have found that there is a huge difference between what the DAR requires and what the LDS will accept. Although I do plan to submit my family information to our local LDS, so other researchers might benefit, I was surprised to learn that the data entered into their records does not have to be documented. Applications for membership in the DAR must be documented and verified for every generation, first by the chapter Registrar and then by the DAR staff in DC. I have found their record copies to be extremely helpful and reliable. The one I recently received for Johannes Beshore, lists 11 different resource references, including page numbers, just for his generation alone. That's a lot of proof! By the way, anyone can go to dar.org and get Patriot information through a DAR volunteer. If I can help, please don't hesitate to ask. I will just need the Patriot's state of service, in addition to dob and spouse name, if known. Marcia

Yes there is a connection according to "The Frances Bashore Francis Collection" compiled and printed by Tulpehocken Settlement Historical Society. They both descendant from the line of Johan Jacob Bashore, but each through a different wife. Hope this helps.Sandy

There are 2 John Garbers on the 1850 N Annville Twp, Lebanon Co Census. Need proof they are father and son: will, estate settlement or deed of gift. John Garber, 65, b PA Elizabeth, 57 Mary, 23 The younger John in the household of : Jacob Shirke, 45 Elizabeth, 43 John Garber, 30, carpenter, b MD Susanna, 25 Henry, 4 Mary, 2

Mabel Maggie Mease (twin) b 12 Dec 1896 d 1972 buried at Jacob Lutheran Cem. Pine Grove Twp. 4 children md. Paul William Rupp on 7 Feb. 1920 Lickdale, Union Twp. died 31 May 1980 bur. Jacobs Lutheran Cem/ son of Reuben J. Rupp and Ellen Jane Wolfe Children: Howard Paul Rupp b 16 March 1946 md. Lottie Mae Carman on 16 March 1946 b 8 Nov. 1920 in Maine d 23 Dec 1958 bur Chapel Pleasant HIll cem Howard Francis Rupp b 16 feb 1947 died 1992 single Colleen Elizabeth Rupp b 5 Nov 1949 died 1992 single Edward William Rupp b 30 Dec 1953 md. Barbara Louise (Cassel) Hasbrouck on 17 Feb. 1979 Chapel U.C.C. Union Twp. d/o Howard E Cassel and Ann Jones. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ewintr@yahoo.com> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 11:06 PM Subject: [PALEBANO] Re: JACOB WOLF/WOLFE > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: WOLF/WOLFE/WOOLF/WOLFF/ZECHMAN/LEFFLER > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jdB.2ACI/571.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, > > I'm so glad others are interested in this family. I've been searching for the ancestors of Amos WOLF for quite a while. I am hoping to be prove or disprove that he and Jacob WOLF(E) b. 1823 are somehow related. I believe they are for several reasons but have no proof yet. Jan and I have recently been corresponding about this. > > 'Nancy' just posted to the mailing list regarding "an Ellen Jane Wolfe md. Reuben J. Rupp." > > I have the following info on Ellen: > She was the daughter of Elias and Matilda (ZECHMAN) WOLF, b. 1877 in Lebanon Co, PA...most likely in Unont Twp. > > Elias was b. July 20, 1845/46. Matilda was b. May 1852. > > Elias was a son of Amos and Lydia (SATTAZAHN) WOLF. > > Nancy, would you email me and share the documentation you have on Ellen and Reuben? Or share with everyone via this list. Thank you. > > Elizabeth > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Access Pennsylvania On-Line Library Catalogue: > <http://accesspa.brodart.com/> > > >

I'm throwing in mine, Ruthanna Fay Rupp b 28 Jan 1944 md. James Francis Sheffy on 13 May 1961 son of Harvey S. Sheffy and Mary B Boeshore. Ruthanna Fay is the dtr of Harry William Rupp and Carrie Westhafer. I know it won't help because it's recent and you probably already have it. Good luck in your research---- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack and Kay Lund" <lundgolf@earthlink.net> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: [PALEBANO] BASHORE/LANG/ZEHRING > I am currently working on a Supplemental to my original DAR application, > namely for my Revolutionary War Patriot, Johannes Beshore, b. 1732 Lancaster > Co., who m. Anna Maria Lang and is bur. Jamestown, Lebanon County. My line > descends from their dau, Julianna who m. Ludwig Zehring. > > > > According to a DAR record copy, Johannes was associated with the German > Reformed Church in Jonestown. In Elizabeth's post of 7/13, she mentions her > Bashore ancestors as being connected to the German Baptist Bretheran. Are > these two churches one in the same by any chance? > > > > As a new member of the list, I will be happy to do Lookups on the online DAR > Patriot Index as my time permits. If your ancestor is listed, you can then > order the most recent copy of their service record on file at NSDAR > headquarters ($10.00), which offers valuable information ie: documented > resources, description of their service, spouses and marriage dates of > children, etc. To do a Lookup for you, I would need the name and dob of your > Patriot and spouse's name, if known. > > > > Additionally, I would welcome exchanging data with others who may be > researching the Bashore, Lang, and Zehring/Zaring lines. > > > > Marcia > > > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: > <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> > > >

I have come across the surname Gingrich many times, but never connected to my Bashore line, at least to my knowledge. Besides my direct line, Julianna, the children of Johannes Beshore's first marriage in 1753 to Anna Marie Lang, b. 10-11-32, are listed on Johannes Beshore's DAR record copy (with dob) and marriages as follows: Catharine - m. Spittler Daniel- m. Schauer George - John - m. Meiley Frederick - m. Keister Adam - Peter - Benjamin - Magdalena - m. Kleinfelter Margaret - m. Foulke/Volck Elizabeth - m. Dibbon Marcia -----Original Message----- From: Barbara [mailto:brivas1@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 12:50 PM To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PALEBANO] BASHORE/LANG/ZEHRING Is there any connection between that Johannes Beshore and this family? Barbara Gingerich b. 15 Aug. 1806 Dauphin Co. PA (twin of Mary) d. 19 May. 1891 84y 9m 4d Juniata Co., PA (Buried in Rothrock Cemetery, Juniata Co., PA) m. Michael Bashore (aka Beashoar/Beshoar) b. 22 Jun. 1803 d. 14 May. 1887 83y 10m 22d Juniata Co., PA (Buried in Rothrock Cemetery, Juniata Co., PA) > > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/>

Actually, the German Reformed Church is now the United Church of Christ. The United Christian Church is a very small evangelical denomination (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Christian_Church). In Campbelltown, PA, the United Christian Cemetery is adjacent to the United Church of Christ Cemetery, to add to the possibility for confusion. John Engle On Jul 16, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Frederick S. Frantz, Jr. wrote: > No, they are not the same. The German Reformed Church is now the > United > Christian Church (UCC). The German Baptist Brethren morphed into the > Church of the Brethren, an Anabaptist group. > > Fred Frantz > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Lebanon County Historical Society Home Page: > <http://www.lebanonhistory.org> >

No, they are not the same. The German Reformed Church is now the United Christian Church (UCC). The German Baptist Brethren morphed into the Church of the Brethren, an Anabaptist group. Fred Frantz

Marcia, The German Reformed and the German Baptists were two different sects. Some of the many Beshores who lived in the area at the time belonged to one sect, and some to the other. Dwayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack and Kay Lund" <lundgolf@earthlink.net> To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: [PALEBANO] BASHORE/LANG/ZEHRING >I am currently working on a Supplemental to my original DAR application, > namely for my Revolutionary War Patriot, Johannes Beshore, b. 1732 > Lancaster > Co., who m. Anna Maria Lang and is bur. Jamestown, Lebanon County. My line > descends from their dau, Julianna who m. Ludwig Zehring. > > > > According to a DAR record copy, Johannes was associated with the German > Reformed Church in Jonestown. In Elizabeth's post of 7/13, she mentions > her > Bashore ancestors as being connected to the German Baptist Bretheran. Are > these two churches one in the same by any chance? > > > > As a new member of the list, I will be happy to do Lookups on the online > DAR > Patriot Index as my time permits. If your ancestor is listed, you can > then > order the most recent copy of their service record on file at NSDAR > headquarters ($10.00), which offers valuable information ie: documented > resources, description of their service, spouses and marriage dates of > children, etc. To do a Lookup for you, I would need the name and dob of > your > Patriot and spouse's name, if known. > > > > Additionally, I would welcome exchanging data with others who may be > researching the Bashore, Lang, and Zehring/Zaring lines. > > > > Marcia > > > > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Lebanon County Gen Web Home Page: > <http://www.chm.davidson.edu/PAGenWeb/> >