Rev. Waldschmidt's Baptismal & Marriage Records (1752 - 1786) can be found in the published Pennsylvania Archives, Series 6, Volume 6, pp 149 - 282. I'm fairly certain the Lebanon Co Historical Society has this series. -Linnea At 22:22 2/7/99, der@redrose.net wrote: >Can anyone tell me if the records of the Rev. Waldschmidt have been >published and if they are online as well? I am seeing various genealogies >which refer to the Rev. Waldschmidt's records, and would like to know more >about him. Was he Lutheran? German Reformed? Thanks. > >Regards, >Donna Ristenbatt >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >der@redrose.net >Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS >http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Ships' Lists, Cemetery Lists, Muster Rolls, >Dutch Research Corner, Mennonite Research Corner >Finding a Civil War Ancestor and More! > > >==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >Thanks so much for joining the Lebanon County PA mailing list!

Hi, I am researching my greatgrandmother Lottie STUMP MOWERY. Lottie STUMP was born on 4-22-1888. Her parents were: Charles STUMP, 1856-1929 and Emma MUSSELMAN, 1856-1912. Charles STUMP and Emma MUSSELMAN's daughter Lottie STUMP and family were living in West Fallowfield, Chester County, PA. On the 1900 Census of West Fallowfield is states: Lottie STUMP, age 12 was a servant in the household of Elmer CROSSON. Husband: Elmer CROSSON, born Oct. 1872 Wife: S. Ella CROSSON, born April, 1869 Daughter: Mary Ella, born November, 1898 Servant: William FAIL, born June, 1881 Servant: Lottie STUMP, born April, 1888 Does anyone know anything about this CROSSON family? Since my greatgrandmother was a servant there, I would like to learn more about this family. Thank You, Lisa Please email me at: LKaz@aol.com

Lisa, Do you have anything on a Mary Schaeffer that married Henry Fellenbaum? Thanks, Joan

Wondering if anyone has info on the surname LAH. Still tracking down my LAW ancestors and heard on a census record the name was recorded LAH. Thought this maybe could help me finally pin them down. Thanks to all for your input! --=-Lisa, in AZ Researching: Dierwechter, Schaeffer, Law ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

A circumstance, in connection with his tombstone, happened, about six years later, which was thought very singular; and which is not only traditionally remembered in the neighborhood, but we find a record of it in the Church-Book. On a Sunday, June 2nd, 1793, while a large congregation was assembled in the church, listening to the Word of God, and when the winds were quiet, the tombstone of the Rev. Mr. Waldschmid suddenly broke off at the top of the ground, and fell flat upon the tomb. "Many saw it," says the Record, "and all heard it fall." The wonder, in connection with this event, was vastly increased, in the minds of the people, by the fact that Mrs. Waldschmid, who was demented and had not spoken a word for years, began to speak again with others on that same day! Mr. Waldschmid was buried in the graveyard connected with the church now called Swamp (in early times Cocalico), in Lancaster county, Pa. His widow survived him many years, and died July 12th, 1803. Besides daughters, he had two sons to perpetuate his name. One of them moved to the west; another, whose name was John, lived and died in the Swamp, on the farm where his father had resided, several miles northeast of the church. One of Mr. Waldschmid's daughters was the mother of the two Reverends Gring, who are still laboring in the ministry, in the German Reformed Church. On his tombstone is written: Hier ruhet in Gott der Ehrw. Johannes Waldschmidt, Geb. den 6 August 1724, Ins Predigtamt verordnet 1752. Starb den 14 September 1786. Alt 62 Jahre, 5 wochen, 4 Tage. A quote from: Fathers of the Reformed Church, Vol. 11, pages 88-92, Rev. Henry Harbaugh, DD, Lancaster 1857. ----------------------------- Rev. Waldschmidt's baptisms were published, I believe. Hope this helps someone! Justin

Hi, The RIEHM genealogy gives an excellent biography of the Rev. John Waldschmidt: John Waldschmid was a native of the province of Nassau, in western Germany. He was born August 6th, 1724, and educated for the ministry in his native land. When, in 1751-52, Mr. Schlatter visited that country, with a view of securing ministers for the destitute American vineyard, he was one of the six young men who volunteered to accompany him to the New World. With the rest, he was examined and ordained, at the Hague; soon after which solemn occasion, they sailed for America, arriving at New York in the night preceding July 28th, 1752; and thence went to Pennsylvania. Soon after their arrival in Pennsylvania, Mr. Schlatter accompanied him to Lancaster county, and installed him as pastor over the congregations of Cocalico (since called Swamp), Weiseichenland (then called Sebastian Reicher's church), Modecreed, and Zeltenreich. From a notice in the record-book of the Cocalico church, we learn that he was installed in this charge October 22nd, 1752. He administered the Holy Supper to that congregation, for the first time, November 19th, 1752, to seventy-two communicants; "after having, on the previous day, preached a preparatory sermon, and inquired in regard to evidence of their fitness for the reception of that ordinance." On the 26th of the same month, he administered the Holy Supper to sixty communicants, in the congregation of Weiseichenland; and, January 28th, 1753, at Mode-creed. On the 14th of May, 1754, he was married, by the Rev. William Otterbein, to Mary Elizabeth, daughter of Christian Grub. After Dr. Stoy ceased preaching at Tulpehocken, Mr. Waldschmidt supplied that congregation two years, in connection with his charge, from 1756 to 1758. Some years later, he also preached, for a time, to the congregation of Heidelberg. His ministry in that church ceased in 1770, when they complained to Cotus that he was "a little inactive, and neglectful of them;" after which, that congregation was joined with Reading. Whether there was just ground for this complaint, it is not easy to decide; we are inclined to think, that the distance he lived from the congregation, and their desire to be more conveniently connected with Reading, may explain it, at least in part. If this be so, it was neither the first nor the last time when persons saw faults in a minister, on which to build a justification of their own schemes. The long time during which this man of God labored successfully in the same charge, it seems to us, presents an argument, in favor of his efficiency, that far outweighs this incidental complaint. Still there was, at one time, also dissatisfaction expressed by some in his own charge. In the Cotal proceedings of the year 1760, it is said: "In regard to the Rev. Mr. Waldschmid, it appears that the congregations are satisfied with his preaching; only the desire that he might be more diligent in his family visitations, and more prudent in his general conduct." Tradition remembers him as a remarkably good-natured, mild, and easy man. With all his goodness, and devotion to the Church--of which there is no doubt -- he may have needed, at times, the impulse of a special stimulus, to keep him moving with freshness, ministerial dignity, and pastoral earnestness. In the Record-Book of the Cocalico Church, already referred to, we find the following touching entry, made by the hand of filial affection: "God, the Almighty, took our dear father out of the world to himself, into a blissful eternity, on the 14th of September, 1786, between nine and ten o'clock in the forenoon. On the 15th, in the afternoon, at two o'clock, we committed his remains to the grave. The Rev. Mr. Boos preached his funeral sermon, from Psalm lxxiii, 23, 24. God grant that we may all come to where he is! Amen. The tombstone was erected October 6th, 1787; costs L7 and 2 shillings." CONTINUED IN NEXT E-MAIL

Hi, That was me looking for Beckley's in Salem Lutheran Church. I still would like the information and THANKS! Nancy Conrad

Please reply to sender, <smschlack@enter.net>. >Delivered-To: ltmiller@mail.ptd.net >Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:59:22 -0800 (PST) >X-From_: smschlack@enter.net Thu Feb 4 06:59:21 1999 >From: "Steven & Susan Schlack" <smschlack@enter.net> >To: <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> >Old-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:58:27 -0500 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Priority: 3 >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >Subject: {not a subscriber} TREKE, DeHAVEN, MILLER > >I am doing some preliminary research on the surname TREKE of Southeastern >Pennsylvania, late 18th to early 19th century, which was handed down in the >family through oral tradition. I have searched gendex.com for TREKE (none), >Soundex T620, and have not found many in PA. I have searched several >on-line genealogical databases, to no avail. Is anyone researching TREKE or >Soundex T620 in PA, 1750-1850? > >Mr. TREKE married Charlotte DEHAVEN, "a Quaker of Lebanon Co., PA" (I have >queried QUAKER-ROOTS-L and DEHAVEN-L at rootsweb.com). Their daughter, >Rachel TREKE m. MILLER of Augusta Lutheran Church, Trappe, Montgomery Co., >PA. Thanks for any and all leads!!! >Sue >

Donna, At this site, http://www.libertynet.org/gencap/pagenorg.html , the address is listed as P.O. Box 244 Kutztown, PA 19530-0244 610-894-9551 Bob Bensing > -----Original Message----- > From: der@redrose.net [mailto:der@redrose.net] > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 6:15 PM > To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PALEBANO-L] Pennsylvania German Society > > > Can someone give me the address for the Pennsylvania German Society? I > wrote them a letter, apparently using their old address and it was > returned to me. So that you know what address I used, :-) it was: > > P.O.Box 397 > Birdsboro, PA 19508-0397 > > Thanks! > > Regards, > Donna Ristenbatt > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > der@redrose.net > Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS > http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Ships' Lists, Cemetery Lists, Muster Rolls, > Dutch Research Corner, Mennonite Research Corner > Finding a Civil War Ancestor and More! > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Found any good sites lately? We'd sure like to know about them! > >

I am a new subscriber to this list and would like to hear from any researchers of the Speck/Specht surname. My specific interest is Martin Speck who immigrated to Philadelphia 20 Sept 1738. Then he settled in Lebanon County by about 1740. He married a Susanna (?) about 1739 or 40 and lived in Swatara Township. They had several children which were listed in the records of Rev. John Casper Stoever. Can someone tell me the name of this church? Three of his sons were Martin (born 23 Mar 1744), John Michael (born 29 Dec 1750), and John Jacob (born 29 April 1753). They may have migrated to York County, Pa. by the 1770s. Can anyone verify this for me? Thank you, Ann Speck Summers texann@abilene.com

>Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:32:26 >To: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com >From: Ken and Dora <kendora@hula.net> >Subject: Stovers in Lancaster County > >Aloha, it is a little more difficult for me now to research my Stover ancestors in Lancaster County, as I left home over forty years ago to join the Army when I was seventeen years old. Thank goodness now for the rootsweb genealogical data co-operative, for I have a better chance to finding my roots. Here is what I know, in brief: > >Great Grandfather: Samuel STOVER. Great Grandmother: Mary SMITH (her maiden name, of course). As there are so many Samuel Stover and Mary Smith's, it makes the search more difficult, so here are facts on their children which, I am hoping will "shed some light". > >Their children: Three sons, (1) Samuel STOVER, married Tillie (?), had son, Kenneth STOVER (NOT my father, also named Kenneth). Perhaps other children as well. (2) Carson STOVER, b. December 1893, d. 1977, married Maude (?), . They had a daughter named Mary Jane STOVER, and raised my father, Kenneth Clinton STOVER as well. They lived in Middleltown, PA. Carson STOVER was very active in Red Cross work in the community, and was a retired Colonel in the US Air Force. And,(3) my grandfather, Clinton Jacob STOVER >married Ella HULL. I do not have any birth and death data on Samuel (as there are way too many to determine which one it is, nor do I have on my grandfather Clinton, as my father is now deceased and my mother does not know. Clinton divorced my grandmother Ella, and remarried unknown person. Clinton had a son to his second wife, whom they named Vernon STOVER, b. November 1921, d. November 1976. Vernon married Peg (?) and had several children, names unknown. While I am uncertain as to the dates of birth for Samuel and Clinton STOVER brothers, it is probable they were born sometime within a few years o0f the brother, Carson STOVER who was born in 1893. To my knowledge, all lived in Lancaster and surrounding counties in Pennsylvania. (though Vernon STOVER did live in New Jersey for a while). Mahalo (thank you) for any help anyone might provide. Kenneth Clinton STOVER, Jr. >

Hi, I am researching my ggggrandfather and his family. If anyone is researching this family please email me at LKaz@aol.com Adam MOWRER (MOWERY), 1827-1880 married: Barbara GROFF, (I have no dates) Adam lived and died in Providence, Lancaster County, PA. I have been told that Adam drowned in the PEQUEA CREEK at the age of 52 years. Adam and Barbara had 7 children: 1. Hiram S., 1852-1912 2. Albert 3. Thaddeus Stevens, 1856-1939 married: Marie B. RINEER, 1852-1919 daughter of David RINEER or spelled RYNEAR and Elizabeth BEACH. Thaddeus and his wife Marie are buried in the Atglen Cemetery, Chester County, PA. 4. John Franklin 5. Daniel, 1860-1879 6. Mary, 1863-? 7. Susan, 1873-? I would really like to hear from anyone that is researching this family. If anyone has any information on the PEQUEA CREEK and Adam's drowning I am very interested in finding out what happened. Thank You, Lisa

Arizona Greetings, I just uploaded two extremely long files. One is a list of 400+ PA men charged with treason during the Rev. War. It includes: names, occupations, township/county. Linked to it is a list of VERDICTS that I came up with - some were acquitted; others had their lands sold and then, they were hanged. (I included most details about their land/s.) Go to my MASTER INDEX; scroll down to TREASON & VERDICTS. The MILLBACH REFORMED CHURCH of Leb. Co. is another new file: 1747-1753 members of that church. -- Blessings, Connie Mayo http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1612/index.html The Lydick Connection--See MASTER INDEX-162 files! He is risen from the dead and He is Lord!

DONNA - Definition of Freeman (this from a family genealogy, sounds reliable) "James became a Concord Proprietor, was termed a Yeoman and titled Sergeant. On June 2, 1641 he became a Freeman of the Colony. By becoming a freeman one became a citizen in the fullest sense, capable of voting in General Elections and being eligible for election to public office. In order to become a Freeman one must be a member of a congregational church and be recommended by his minister or some other man of standing as a man of good character and loyalty; and an oath was administered to each man on his entering the honorable list pledging him to fidelity and service to the government of the Colony. The Freeman's Oath as provided in General Court May 14, 1634 read as follows: "I, (name), being by God's providence an inhabitant and freeman within the jurisdiction of this commonwealth, do freely acknowledge myself to be subject to the government thereof, and therefore, do here swear by the great and dreadful name of the everlasting God, that I will be true and faithful to the same, and will accordingly yield assistance and support thereunto, with my person and estate, as in equity I am bound; and I will also truly endeavor to maintain, and preserve all the liberties and privileges thereof, submitting myself to the wholesome laws and orders made and established by the same. And further that I will not plot nor practice any evil against it, nor consent to any that shall so do, but will reveal the same to lawful authority now here established for the speedy preventing thereof. Moreover I do solemnly bind myself in the sight of God, that When I shall be called upon to give my voice touching any such matter of this State, wherein freemen are to deal, I will give my vote and suffrage as I judge to mine own conscience may best conduce and tend to the public weal of the body, without respect of persons or favor of any man; so help me God in the Lord Jesus Christ." The title of Freeman was not necessarily limited to the British colonials as I have seen other PA Germans given the title; congregational church would be the broad definition it seems. The OED definition/word origin of freeman suggests to me that the criteria may have varied from colony to colony, to commonwealth or city and county perhaps. However, Oxford does not have a formal definition for "Freeman". Hope this helps. John Light Monterey

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BWyld@aol.com wrote: > > Can any one in the group tell me what the name Hoerchelradt is or what it > became? I can usually make out these old spellings or name derivations but not > this one. This is in reference to the marriage of Peter Hedderich Jr. and > Margar. Hoerchelradt. > > Also, I have come across the first name Peter and Philip used interchangeably > both in the Hetrick and Walmer families. I checked my dictionary that has a > section on names and I find nothing to indicate why, other than they both were > of Greek derivation. Any help on this one? Thanks. Beverly Wyld I have a Horchelrodt in my family which became Herchelrath or Herchelroth by the time they married my line. Other spellings that were used between these names were; Herchelroad, Harkleroad, Harclerode, and Harchleroth. I have never traced these variations so I don't know if they continued or not. Good luck Jack Losensky

Looking for any information on Eldridges of Lebanon....Jonestown area! Descendants of John Eldridge 1 John Eldridge Abt. 1821 - .. +Elizabeth Abt. 1822 - ...... 2 John Jr Eldridge 1849 - .......... +Kate Abt. 1849 - ...... 2 William Eldridge 1851 - ...... 2 Samuel Eldridge 1855 - 1915 .......... +Katherine Herring 1862 - 1926 ...... 2 Elizabeth Eldridge 1857 - ...... 2 Sarah Eldridge 1860 -

Can any one in the group tell me what the name Hoerchelradt is or what it became? I can usually make out these old spellings or name derivations but not this one. This is in reference to the marriage of Peter Hedderich Jr. and Margar. Hoerchelradt. Also, I have come across the first name Peter and Philip used interchangeably both in the Hetrick and Walmer families. I checked my dictionary that has a section on names and I find nothing to indicate why, other than they both were of Greek derivation. Any help on this one? Thanks. Beverly Wyld

These are the relatives that I have been looking for Yocum (I've also seen it spelled Yocom) family in Lebanon Co., PA. Samuel YOCUM (Family 'history' is that they worked as footman and cook for the BROCKS and/or COLEMAN families who owned the mine there in Lebanon.) & Margaret HAZZARD (Possibly HUZZARD) | James Richard YOCUM (Occupation: Senior Warden at St. Luke Episcopal Church, Lebanon, PA) | & Mary REED | | Cyrus YOCUM (Starved to death in "Libby" prison as prisoner of the Civil War, Nov 25, 1864.) | | b. 6 Oct 1842, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | Franklin YOCUM | | b. 2 Oct 1844, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | d. 14 Jan 1922 | | Phianna YOCUM | | b. 26 Jul 1846, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | d. 17 Feb 1879 | | & Joseph PETERS | | John H. YOCUM | | b. 26 Oct 1848, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | d. 8 Feb 1927 | | Allison YOCUM (worked in the mines) | | b. 31 May 1850, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | d. 8 Aug 1904, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | buried: Mount Lebanon Cemetery | | & Pauline Hollie LOEB | | b. 1851, Myerstown, Lebanon Co., PA | | d. 1 Nov 1884, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | | Richard Reed YOCUM Rev. | | | b. 3 Apr 1880, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | | d. 16 Mar 1946, Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH | | | & Clara Hulda REUTNIK | | | b. 25 Jul 1881, Boergers Corner, New Hope, Lincoln Co., MO | | | d. 19 Feb 1971, Akron, Summit Co., OH | | | m. 20 Dec 1905, Cleveland, OH | | | James YOCUM | | | & May | | | Charlotte "Lottie" YOCUM | | | b. 15 Jul 1882 | | | d. 27 Jun 1943 | | Levi YOCUM | | d. 25 Dec 1851 | | Armanda YOCUM | | b. 5 Feb 1853, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | d. 1 Sep 1855 | | Slater (?) YOCUM | | b. 28 Jan 1858, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | Ellen YOCUM | | b. 9 Aug 1866, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | & Sylvester ECK | | Martha YOCUM | | b. 15 Oct 1863, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | | d. 1 May 1864, Lebanon, Lebanon Co., PA | Helena (?) YOCUM | d. 1 Nov 1884 Any connections or hints? Thanks in advance, zen sutherland zens@mindspring.com

>From what I've been able to understand -- at least in Central PA -- it referred to people who were unmarried/young who did not yet hold land of their own, and were taxed on their trades and occupations only. I could be wrong though. Justin