I noted with interest the recent posts from Bob Bensing, Donna Ristenbatt and some others regarding a possible EARLY link between the Lebanon LIGHTs and the KREIDERS. I've also had some correspondence with John Light of Monterey, CA on the same subject. If my understanding is correct, this John Light is a descendant of John LIGHT of Lebanon, who arrived at the port of Philadelphia on 5 Sep 1738 aboard the Winter Galley. This John LIGHT, and his descendants, are the subjects of an exhaustive study carried on by the Rev. R. G. Francis (1870-1958), a Lebanon genealogist with a reputation for talent and experience, mostly between the years 1929 through 1932. The results of this study were published posthumously through the good offices of Searchlight Editor Betty M. Light Behr by the Closson Press in April 1990 under the title "History and Genealogy of Early Pioneer Families of Lebanon County, Pennsylvania". This, I am persuaded, is, without serious question, the seminal study of this family and its history. Rev. Francis, early on in his introductory discussion (p. 8) has this to say concerning the spouse of John LIGHT of Lebanon: "As to his wife, we know not her Christian name. nor her family name. Their son Jacob states that his mother died Nov. 12, 1758. She was doubtless considerably younger than her husband, for she bore a son as late as 1738. Perhaps the daughter Barbara was still younger, certainly so if she married Casper Shirk, for Casper's wife Barbara was born May 13, 1739." John LIGHT must have contracted his marriage in Europe well before his 1738 journey to the Colonies. In fact, his eldest child, son John, is recorded as having been born 21 Feb 1726 (p. 13). If his wife was named KREIDER (Maria or otherwise), it seems unlikely that she is of either of the KREIDER families sojourning in Ittlingen, as discussed in the PMH articles of John Marsh and Jane Best, because (1) neither family is recorded as having a daughter named Maria, and (2) neither family is recorded as having a daughter of the requisite age to have been capable of bearing a child in 1726 (none, that is, who is not otherwise accounted for). Of course, there were lots of KREIDERs in that part of Europe at that time, many of them doubtless female and available for marriage. And there is no showing that John LIGHT the Immigrant had any connection with Ittlingen. Nevertheless, it does put in question whether, if John LIGHT's wife was a KREIDER, she was directly connected with the Ittlingen KREIDERs, who were the progenitors of the Lebanon KREIDERs. Now to the question of "family tradition" raised by John Light of Monteray. I am also a descendant of John LIGHT the Immigrant. I have devoted considerable time to the study of the family literature (admittedly, most of it secondary), and I must say that I have never heard or read of such a "tradition." I have it from a respected source that one of the purveyors of this information is a gentleman named Roger Cramer (with whom I am not acquainted). I have it further from this source that Mr. Cramer has not offered to furnish a source for this information, having been requested to do so. There is this to be said, however: I understand from my source that Mr Cramer states the spouse of Maria KREIDER is named John (Johannes) Peter LIGHT. Again referring To Rev. Francis' work, he tells us that there were a number of John LIGHTs (with variant surname spellings) who arrived at Philadelphia at about the same time as our John LIGHT; that among these were Johan Peter LIGHT, who arrived on 30 Aug 1737 aboard the Samuel, and Peter LIGHT, who arrived on 27 Oct 1733 aboard the Saint Andrew. Of these and other LIGHT immigrants, Rev. Francis has this to say (p. 2): "We do not attempt to determine where the Light immigrants, afore, settled. That is beyond our sphere. As to the settlers we simply let it be known, from the records found, that they had settled; there is no intention to give history beyond the record quoted, unless those under consideration were connected vitally with our Lights of Lebanon county." Not to put words in the Reverend's mouth, he seems quite clearly to be telling us that his work is devoted solely to the John [Johannes] LIGHT who arrived in Philadelphia on 5 Sep 1738 aboard the Winter Galley, and to his progeny. And when the Reverend tells us that the name of this John LIGHT's wife is not known, it's going to take a powerful lot to convince me otherwise, family tradition or no. Grant Miller max@cftnet.com

Grace You might try "The Palatine Families of New York" Vol. I and II , by Henry (Hank) Jones and Picton Press. Good Luck! Sandy

STEINER, BATDORF I am seeking others researching this PA>OH family: 1) Johannes STEINER? b c 1750 of Tulpehocken Tp, Berks Co + Catharine? 2) (Mariah) Catherine Steiner (c1784PA-c1868OH) of Berks,PA>Daup,PA>OH + George Peter Batdorf (1768PA-1829PA) 3) Peter Batdorf b 1814 + Elizabeth WELKER 3) Catherine Batdorf b 1819 + Mr. MATHHEW 3) Johannes Batdorf 3) Thomas Batdorf b 1820 3) John Batdorf b 1823 3) Daniel Batdorf b 1824 3) Elizabeth Batdorf b 1828 2) George Steiner Other possible parents for Catherine: Frederick & Anne Margertha Jacob & Catharina Michael & Susanna Augustina & Sarah George & Elizabeth Thank you, Marc I am seeking parentage for these folks from PA: (Mary) Cath STEINER Batdorf (c1785-aft1830 Berks>Daup), Wm FRANTZ (c1750-1805 Daup), Saml PETERS (c1821-c1870 Daup), Jacob RUDY (c1760-? Lanc>Daup), MaryAnn SWARTZ Peters (b1820-1897 Jun't>Daup), Cath UNDERHOLD(Z) Wertz (1790-1864 N'land/Lanc), Sarah A CU ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

RUDY, RUTESSE, RUDI, JUNGBLUT, YOUNGBLOOD 1) Jacob RUDY (c1760-?) of Lancaster>Dauphin + Susanna JUNGBLUT 2) Barbara Rudy ROWE (c1790-1882) + (John) William Rowe Thank you, Marc I am seeking parentage for these folks from PA: (Mary) Cath STEINER Batdorf (c1785-aft1830 Berks>Daup), Wm FRANTZ (c1750-1805 Daup), Saml PETERS (c1821-c1870 Daup), Jacob RUDY (c1760-? Lanc>Daup), MaryAnn SWARTZ Peters (b1820-1897 Jun't>Daup), Cath UNDERHOLD(Z) Wertz (1790-1864 N'land/Lanc), Sarah A CU ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

FRANTZ I am seeking information on this PA family: 1) Johannes FRANTZ? of Heidelberg Tp, Berks Co? + ? 2) William Frantz (bc1750-d1804) of Upper Paxton, Lanc/Daup, PA + Margaret ? 3) Frantz, Adam (c1785PA-after1824) of Dauphin + Susannah Geesaman (1788-1826) of Berks>Dauphin 3) Henry 3) Jacob 3) William 3) Elizabeth 3) Sara 3) Catherine 3) John Thank you, Marc I am seeking parentage for these folks from PA: (Mary) Cath STEINER Batdorf (c1785-aft1830 Berks>Daup), Wm FRANTZ (c1750-1805 Daup), Saml PETERS (c1821-c1870 Daup), Jacob RUDY (c1760-? Lanc>Daup), MaryAnn SWARTZ Peters (b1820-1897 Jun't>Daup), Cath UNDERHOLD(Z) Wertz (1790-1864 N'land/Lanc), Sarah A CU ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Among many sources of early Tulpehockensettlers are Rupp's 30,000 Names of Immigrants in PA and Henry Jones's Palatine Families of NY, 1710. According to Berks Co Archives, Jacob Wagner died intestate in 1791, resulting in a letter of administration being issued to the widow Appolonia on 03 Mar 1791. -----Original Message----- From: GRACE W EVANS <GRACEVANS@prodigy.net> To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com <PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 13, 1999 1:16 PM Subject: [PALEBANO-L] SCHOHARIE TO LEBANON/BERKS >Sorry, I forgot to type the subject line in my earlier post. > >Donna, > >You wrote on March 12: > . I, myself, have been focusing on > >that Schoharie settlement history as I did not realize that they are > >supposedly responsible for the beginnings of Berks and Lebanon > > Counties, > >settling along the Tulpehocken and the Swatara; then the Indian chief > >complaining about them settling on Indian lands, and the subsequent > >purchase by the Penns. According to Cobb, this brought their > > countrymen > >from Europe, as they now heard this was a "safe" place to reside. > >Can you suggest a source that lists names of German families who came to >Lebanon and Berks Counties via Schoharie? Specifically, I am looking >for parents and siblings of Jacob WAGNER, dob unk; d 1776 Tulpehocken. >He married Maria Appolonia MUENCH at Tulpehocken 1760. > >TIA, >Grace Evans > >gracevans@prodigy.net >ICQ #1292339 >gracevans@prodigy.net >ICQ #1292339 > > >==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== >If you have a personal web page, please share your URL with us! > >

John, It has been a while since I did any research on the Kreider line. Here is what I remember. My files are in such a disarray that I can't even attempt to find anything on the Kreiders. For about 1740 and before, J.G.Francis' records on the Krieder family are very suspect. John Marsh wrote some articles highlighting some discrepancies on Francis' assumptions. Francis showed a Michael, Hans, and a third Kreider coming to Lebanon County very early in the 1700s, returning to Germany, and coming back to Lebanon County about 1735. Marsh used some land records to show that the Kreiders who sailed to Phil. in 1735 were not the same ones who originally settled in Lebanon County. Marsh also guesses that these 3 Kreiders may have visited relatives in PA and moved on to N. Carolina. >From other reading, it seems that the initial immigrants sailed into NY. Then around 1721/22, three ships sailed into Philadelphia. The British were not expecting these ships, and had nothing set up to record the names of passengers into this port. By the time the ships were noticed, most of the passengers had scattered. Very few names of the almost 300 passengers were recorded. If anyone has any ships records for Philadelphia before 1724, I would be very interested in them. This seems to be the brickwall researching the Kreiders of Lebanon County. Marsh did come up with some interesting info from Germany. About 1705 there was a letter written to a Baron von Ittlingen (or maybe Memmingen). The letter was from 9 families, living in Ittlingen, protesting the high religious taxes the Baron was imposing. It was double what was charged in the surrounding areas. The names of all the families protesting the taxes were on this letter. Most were Baer/Bare families, but 2 of the families were Greiter/Kreiders. The names for the Hans Greiter family seem to match the names of the Kreiders who first came to Lebanon County. The head of the other family was Jacob Greiter. I think that this letter is on file in Stuttgart, Germany. Marsh does include a translation of the letter in his one article (a copy is in a black binder some where in the mess in my room). So, the short answer is no, I don't have any info on Maria Kreider marrying a Light in Germany. The LDS Church has done much more research in Europe since I last researched the Kreiders. Maybe there is more info now at the FHCs. Bob Bensing > -----Original Message----- > From: John Light [mailto:jblight@redshift.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 1999 11:18 AM > To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PALEBANO-L] Kreider/Greider/Crider > > > I noticed Bob Bensing's post on the Kreider line. Bob and others: I am > trying to find the origins of what may only be family tradition that our > assumed, and prolific, Lebanon Light family immigrant (1738) Johannes > Licht/Light married a Maria Kreider ca late 1720s in Germany. I know a > Kreider farm (perhaps John or John Jacob?) was very nearby the original > Light properties in Lebanon, but aside from that specific reference I > cannot find any reliable sources. This connection is made in several > family genealogies BUT NOT in the generally accepted J.G. Francis' > "History and Genealogy of Pioneer Families of Lebanon, PA". We can live > with it as family tradition if we know that is what it is, but we want > to trace its origins and sourcing if possible - do you have this > Kreider-Light connection or others near that time in your histories, and > any leads on documentation to bear it out? Thanks, > John Light > Monterey, CA > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > To contact the owner of the PALEBANO Mailing List, please contact: > ltmiller@mail.ptd.net > >

John Light wrote: > > I noticed Bob Bensing's post on the Kreider line. Bob and others: I am > trying to find the origins of what may only be family tradition that our > assumed, and prolific, Lebanon Light family immigrant (1738) Johannes > Licht/Light married a Maria Kreider ca late 1720s in Germany. I know a > Kreider farm (perhaps John or John Jacob?) was very nearby the original > Light properties in Lebanon, but aside from that specific reference I > cannot find any reliable sources. This connection is made in several > family genealogies BUT NOT in the generally accepted J.G. Francis' > "History and Genealogy of Pioneer Families of Lebanon, PA". We can live > with it as family tradition if we know that is what it is, but we want > to trace its origins and sourcing if possible - do you have this > Kreider-Light connection or others near that time in your histories, and > any leads on documentation to bear it out? Thanks, > John Light > Monterey, CA > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > To contact the owner of the PALEBANO Mailing List, please contact: > ltmiller@mail.ptd.net ************************************* I found your letter very interesting. I have nothing of substance to add, but I was very curious about the source of what you call a family tradition. Can you tell us more? Leroy Miller West Hills, CA

Sorry, I forgot to type the subject line in my earlier post. Donna, You wrote on March 12: . I, myself, have been focusing on >that Schoharie settlement history as I did not realize that they are >supposedly responsible for the beginnings of Berks and Lebanon > Counties, >settling along the Tulpehocken and the Swatara; then the Indian chief >complaining about them settling on Indian lands, and the subsequent >purchase by the Penns. According to Cobb, this brought their > countrymen >from Europe, as they now heard this was a "safe" place to reside. Can you suggest a source that lists names of German families who came to Lebanon and Berks Counties via Schoharie? Specifically, I am looking for parents and siblings of Jacob WAGNER, dob unk; d 1776 Tulpehocken. He married Maria Appolonia MUENCH at Tulpehocken 1760. TIA, Grace Evans gracevans@prodigy.net ICQ #1292339 gracevans@prodigy.net ICQ #1292339

Donna, You wrote on March 12: . I, myself, have been focusing on >that Schoharie settlement history as I did not realize that they are >supposedly responsible for the beginnings of Berks and Lebanon Counties, >settling along the Tulpehocken and the Swatara; then the Indian chief >complaining about them settling on Indian lands, and the subsequent >purchase by the Penns. According to Cobb, this brought their countrymen >from Europe, as they now heard this was a "safe" place to reside. Can you suggest a source that lists names of German families who came to Lebanon and Berks Counties via Schoharie? Specifically, I am looking for parents and siblings of Jacob WAGNER, dob unk; d 1776 Tulpehocken. He married Maria Appolonia MUENCH at Tulpehocken 1760. TIA, Grace Evans gracevans@prodigy.net ICQ #1292339

I noticed Bob Bensing's post on the Kreider line. Bob and others: I am trying to find the origins of what may only be family tradition that our assumed, and prolific, Lebanon Light family immigrant (1738) Johannes Licht/Light married a Maria Kreider ca late 1720s in Germany. I know a Kreider farm (perhaps John or John Jacob?) was very nearby the original Light properties in Lebanon, but aside from that specific reference I cannot find any reliable sources. This connection is made in several family genealogies BUT NOT in the generally accepted J.G. Francis' "History and Genealogy of Pioneer Families of Lebanon, PA". We can live with it as family tradition if we know that is what it is, but we want to trace its origins and sourcing if possible - do you have this Kreider-Light connection or others near that time in your histories, and any leads on documentation to bear it out? Thanks, John Light Monterey, CA

For those doing research on Schohaire: There is a book from 1927 titled "Thirty Thousand Names of Immigrants to PA" by Daniel Rupp that follows the Palantines from London to NY City to Livingston Manor to Schoharie to Tulpehocken. The first to come to Tulpehocken were 32 families in 1723. One of my Ancestors Johann Nicholas Schaffer was among these first 32. I am now trying to do additional research on him and his children, some of which left that area in the mid 1700's and found there way to Bradford Co. Also the history of Schoharie is very rich as the Germans settled there after the Dutch and there were many land fights between them, some of which are well documented. For additional information on my Schaffer line visit my web site at http://members.aol.com/WELZFAM/tree.html Regards, Alan Wells welzfam@aol.com

I�ve been benefitting from the PALEBANO chatter for a month or so. Now I�ll enter the fray. The surname subject is OWEN, my great-great grandparents. This is what I know/suspicion (dates are from good family-bible sources), and I�ll take all the help/surmise I can get!! I know nothing firm of these folk in the area. I know it was all Lancaster Co., but you all know why I�m asking here!! Evan OWEN, born 24 Dec 1790 in PA wed about 1827 to Margaret E. ____, born 15 Sep 1802 in PA Their children affected by a PA search: Franklin J., born 23/24 Mar 1828, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster Co. Elizabeth Katherine, born 31 Aug 1830, prob. in Lancaster Co. William, born 1832 in PA Levi, born 1834 in PA Margaret E., born 1837 in PA John F. (?Franklin?), born 1840 in PA or OH Obediah, born 7 Mar 1843 in Ohio. So my surmise is that they came to Ohio between 1840 and 1843. Franklin J., though he wed my great-grandmother in Ohio (Elizabeth Treon), had probably a prior wife named Fanny (?DOWN?) in PA and a child by her (Fianna). They were in the 1850 Census, and she in the 1860 Census, in Lancaster City. We know of the divorce, and that�s not an issue here, though any descendants of that first marriage are welcome to contact me!! I'm Dave Ross, and I live in Denver, CO

Hello, John Light in Monterey!! I was in ALS there in 1958 (12-month Russian), and that is one of our most favorite places on earth. We're now in Denver and have visited back there off and on. We're overdue for a "Monterey Fix" !! Dave Ross

Thanks Mary, IT sure sounds like a lot of us. I need to paste it in my family newsletter. Thanks

Just got this on another list and it was so great, I thought I'd pass it on. It's getting printed out and put above my PC <grin> =============== Forwarding this to my genealogy family (Author unknown) There's been a change in Grandma, we've noticed her of late She's always reading history or jotting down some date She's tracking back the family, we'll all have pedigrees Oh, Grandma's got a hobby - she's climbing the FAMILY TREE. Poor Grandpa does the cooking, and now, or so he states, That worst of all he has to wash the cups and dinner plates. Grandma can't be bothered, she's busy as a bee Compiling genealogy for the FAMILY TREE. She has no time to baby sit, the curtains are a fright, No buttons left on Grandpa's shirt, the flower bed's a sight. She's given up her club work and the soap house on TV. The only thing she does nowadays is climb the FAMILY TREE. The mail is all for Grandma, it comes from near and far. Last week she got the proof she need to join the DAR. A monumental project, I'm sure we all agree All because of Grandma climbing the FAMILY TREE. Now some folks came from Scotland, and some from Galway Bay. Some were French as pastry, some German all the way. Some went West to stake their claims, some stayed by the sea. Grandma hopes to find them, as she climbs the FAMILY TREE. She wonders through the graveyard in search of date and name, The rich, the poor, the in-between, all sleeping there the same. She pauses now and then to rest, fanned by a gentle breeze The blows above the Fathers of all our FAMILY TREE. There were pioneers and patriots, mixed in our kith and kin, Who blazed the pasts of wilderness and fought through thick and thin, But none more staunch than Grandma, whose eyes light up with glee, Each time she finds a missing branch to go back on the FAMILY TREE. Their skills were wide and varied, from carpenter to cook, And one alas, the records show was hopelessly a crook. Blacksmith, weaver, farmer, judge - some tutored for a fee. Once lost in time, now all recorded on Grandma's FAMILY TREE. To some it's just a hobby, to Grandma it's much more, She learns the joys and heartaches of those that went before. They loved, they lost, they laughed, they wept - and now, for you and me, They live again in spirit around the FAMILY TREE. At last she's nearly finished and we are each exposed, Life will be the same again or this we all supposed. Grandma will cook and sew, serve cookies with our tea, We'll all be fat, just as before the wretched FAMILY TREE. Sad to relate, the preacher called and visited for a spell. We talked about the Gospel, and other things as well. The heathen folk, the poor and then...’twas fate, it had to be, Somehow the conversation turned to Grandma and the FAMILY TREE He never knew his grandpa. His mother's name was...Clark? He and Grandma talked and talked. Outside it grew quite dark. We'd hope our fears were groundless, but just like some disease, Grandma's become an addict...she’s hooked on FAMILY TREES! Our souls are filled with sorrow, our hearts sad with dismay. Our ears could scarce believe the words we heard our Grandma say, “It surely is a luck thing that you have come to me, I know exactly how it's done...I’ll climb YOUR FAMILY TREE.” ===================== Mary GLOD Hervey (Lebanon, PA) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mhervey@micronet.net genmail@micronet.net Visit my genealogy page: http://genweb.net/~rayglod Mary's BorderWorld: http://members.xoom.com/mhervey RESEARCHING: RAY, ABSON, WORSHAM, PHARRIS, GUNNELLS, PARTON, CATLETT, WEBB (TN); GLOD, ZOMBALLUS (PA); RAMSEY (KY) ~~~~~~~~~~~ Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm (Lebanon, PA area) ~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm not stuck, I'm ancestrally challenged...After 30 days, all wealthy & unclaimed ancestors will be adopted......

This is an excellence site for the immigrants coming to America. sgtgeorge@concentric.net Nancy

Donna, Here are some inputs on the immigration to the Carolinas. While researching my Kreider/Gryder/Crider line, I found a line that seems to have immigrated to North Carolina. Some landed there, while others seem to have landed in Philadelphia, visited relatives in PA, and then went south. The line in the south usually spells the name Crider. Some letters from the time of the Revolutionary War say that the Germans didn't like going south of PA because it was too hot in the summer. Guess it depends on what part of Europe you are from as to how hot you like it in the summer. The North Atlantic has a limited sailing season. Some of the Palatines sailed from Germany to England and then to North America. The wait was up to 2 years for some of the Palatines in England. There were so many there that there was/is a Palatine section along the Themes River. The wait was for ships to sail on. Some needed to make a little money before they could go farther. But some of the wait was because the ships couldn't sail. Sorry, but I don't have any references for this. Bob Bensing > -----Original Message----- > From: der@redrose.net [mailto:der@redrose.net] > Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 12:45 PM > To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [PALEBANO-L] Question on the "Carolina" Colony] > > Thanks about the emigrants/immigrants input. Question. Are there any > extant ships' lists to this NC or SC settlement? Any articles or > books on > the subject that you could suggest? Someone on PALANCAS-L just posted > about the immigrants going to Virginia.- I do know from books I have read > that the south was not as "strict" religiously as the northern states. > Maybe there was some pull in that regard. Just thinking out loud. :-) > > Donna >

Regarding the Carolina settlements > >Donna - they did. I will probably get some arguments about this but I >think we can say the area referrred to is what is now roughly the >Western third of North Carolina. I think the Moravians started it; some >of them came to what is now Forsythe County starting in the early 1750s >and founded Old Salem (now part of the city of Winston-Salem). > >Other Pa Germans who were not necessarily Moravians settled in the >surrounding area, and for some reason not clear to me, a lot settled in >what is now Rowan county (between Winston-Salem and Charlotte if you >look at a map). > >Why? Well, I think they were already starting to run out of desirable >land in some parts of PaDutch country - they had so many children, it >was undesirable to subdivide farms too many times. Then I guess there >was 'go west, young man', even then. Adventure. Some thought the >climate was better. In the case of the Moravians there seems to have >been some religious motivation - to convert the Indians. ... Why 18th century German immigrants chose to move to this area, I do not know for sure. The reasons listed above are certainly very compelling, but I have an additional idea to consider. Everyone is no doubt acquainted with the infamous settlement in the Schoharie Valley of New York. That settlement was part of a naval stores project run by the British government, and that project had a sister settlement in the Carolinas. The Carolina settlement of Palatines began about the same time as the New York settlement, ca. 1710 (perhaps a bit earlier, my memory on the subject is poor). I wonder if this naval stores project was one of the early motivators. It may have "seeded" the German colonization of the area. Future German immigrants may have felt more comfortable moving to an area where there were already some German settlers. Perhaps someone has more detailed info on this settlement. My recollection is that the Carolinas settlement met with better success than the New York effort (it could hardly have been less successful!). Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------- David N. Blauch, Assistant Professor Department of Chemistry, Davidson College POB 1719, Davidson NC 28036 Tel. (704) 892-2308 FAX (704) 892-2709 dablauch@davidson.edu home page: http://www.chm.davidson.edu/dablauch/dablauch.html

I loved reading this e-mail and would like you to have a look at rootweb.com in North Carolina to find Rowan-roots-l. They have a web-site right there that you could click on and it shows a marvelous map of today's North Carolina. (I believe) My family was here in the south and I have had a hard time checking some of them who were on this small little part that evidently runs over into Virginia and Tennessee. This map helped a lot and I am now checking on Rowan-roots-l and expecting a lot of good things to come of it. North Carolina evidently incorporated South Carolina a long time ago and I believe it was all the Carolina colony, but you had best check with someone born in NC, as I was born in California. As a Christian I too believe that our Heavenly Father sent many of His children to the West, so that this great land could be settled and claimed for His Son. Bye, bye.