Hi all-- We just moved and are settled I can do Lancaster County Will Abstract Lookups Keep in mind you must send lookup as follows: TO: <fitnesspro@juno.com> SUBJ: Lanc Will Lookup MESSAGE: (Include FULL NAME of lookup) I have a copy of a copy but it lists all the wills 1729-1850 On most it shows the Year, Book, Volume, & Page (no other info) Marc Seeking parentage (Penna.): (Mary) Cath STEINER Batdorf (c1780-aft1830 Berks>Daup), Wm FRANTZ (c1750-1805 Daup), Saml PETERS (c1821-c1870 Daup), Jacob RUDY (c1760-? Lanc>Daup), MaryAnn SWARTZ Peters (b1820-1897 Jun't>Daup), Cath UMBEHAUER Wertz (1790-1864 N'land/Lanc) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hello Everyone, My gr-gr-grandfather, William Rosenberger, died in the town of Lebanon on 11 Sept. 1888. In my attempt to locate an obituary for him, I wrote to the Lebanon Historical Society. Unfortunately they don't have a copy of the Lebanon Advertiser for that particular year. Would anyone on the list know where I could find a copy of this ( or another paper that would likely have obituaries listed ). Thanks for your help. Marjorie Hennessey mhenness@zoo.uvm.edu

Marjorie, > My gr-gr-grandfather, William Rosenberger, died in the town > of Lebanon on > 11 Sept. 1888. In my attempt to locate an obituary for him, > I wrote to the > Lebanon Historical Society. Unfortunately they don't have a > copy of the > Lebanon Advertiser for that particular year. Would anyone on > the list know > where I could find a copy of this ( or another paper that > would likely have > obituaries listed ). Thanks for your help. > The Pennsylvania State Library has an extensive collection of newspapers from around the state. Dave David N. Blauch, Associate Professor Department of Chemistry, Davidson College P.O. Box 1719, Davidson, NC 28036 Tel. (704) 892-2308 FAX (704) 892-2709 http://www.chm.davidson.edu/dablauch/dablauch.html

Lebanon County Historical Society visited there on a bus tour of various such places a year or so ago. Perhaps someone of the society would be able to answer these questions easily, even the society president Earl Lieby. I could not go on the tour and often have wondered what the inside is like. Cordially, Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA On Mon, 3 May 1999 der@redrose.net wrote: > I was recently at the Hoke Meeting House Cemetery in Lebanon County, PA. I > just want to make sure I am reading my cemetery map correctly - is that > West Cornwall Twp. or am I reading that incorrectly? Also, does anyone > know the history of this Hoke Meeting House? Thanks. > > Regards, > Donna Ristenbatt > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > der@redrose.net > Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS > http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Ships' Lists, PA and Mennonite Research Corner, > Dutch Research Corner, Cemetery Lists, > Rev. War Loyalists, Finding a Civil War Ancestor, > Many Surnames and More! > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Visit Rootsweb and support our sponsor: > <http://www.rootsweb.com> > >

Greetings, I invite you to visit my website > http://www.afcon.net/~remlinr/ I now have Achenbach, Bechtold, Breininger, Dengler, Edelsoffer, Gelsinger, Haag, Hadermann, Heffley, Hibshman, Hippert, Kessler, Klotz, Knoll, Lebo, Maurer, Miller, Muench, Mueller, Ness, Pfeiffer, Porter, Price, Rabold, Reed, Scholl, Stober, Strickler, Theiss, Weiss, and Zartman data on line for your perusal. Richard Emlin Reed remlinr@afcon.net 18471 Barbara Avenue Port Charlotte FL 33948-3374 "A Reed By Many Other Names"

Donna, All three names could very well be for the same family. The pronunciation of the ue or u umlaut was one of the things my German teacher dwelled on. Seems the English speakers normally don't move their mouths to make the umlaut sounds and the muscles have to be retrained. In some of my CDs the umlauts do not appear in the names. Some names are spelled with just the u or with ue. Add to this some English speaking person listening to a German speaking in one of many dialects. It is very easy for Bruecker to become Bricker or even Briker and Priker. Bob Bensing > -----Original Message----- > From: der@redrose.net [mailto:der@redrose.net] > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 1999 11:02 PM > To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PALEBANO-L] BRUCKER/BRICKER > > > I have a question regarding the surname BRUCKER. In baptismal > records of > the late 1790s/early 1800s I see the name BRUCKER in church records. Come > the 1850 census, I seem to see the name BRICKER. Are these one and the > same? I can see the name Bruecker becoming Bruecker because of > the umlaut, > but was not sure about the BRICKER variation. Thanks. > > Regards, > Donna Ristenbatt

Does anyone have a knowledge of a "Bible Brethern Church" "north of Campbelltown" in Lebanon County and where it more specifically is located? Thanks in Advance. Steve Williams..looking for Fuhrman's from Lebanon Co.

Hi, I am looking for parents or anything on Ada J. DERR b.abt 1873, her marriage to Harvey J.STALEY (b.1871 Bernville) was announced in the "Reading Telegram" issue dated 25 May 1893. Thanks for looking! Sherry Staley, Minot NDakota

Hi, Dave, My interests are below. I am looking for decendents and/or ancestors of Charles H. KILLINGER and his wife, Cornelia R. PLEIS, b. 1841 d. 1930, m. 11 February 1864. Chris Researching: LEMAL, WATSON, WALKER, RESENDORPH, FARRER, PICKUP, CROMPTON, COPPOLA, DIDOMENICO, BENINCASA and many more. "Technology . . . the knack of so arranging the world that we don't have to experience it." ----- Max Frisch, 1911-1991 http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m-a-r/Christine-E-Marino/ ChrisM5@email.msn.com Transcriber for the ISTG. The Immigrant Ship Passenger lists are located at <http://istg.rootsweb.com> Please support ROOTSWEB. WALKER Family Website http://www.jas.net/~sueowens/walkdir.htm -----Original Message----- From: Blauch, David [mailto:dablauch@davidson.edu] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 9:44 AM To: 'Christine E. Marino ' Subject: RE: [PALEBANO-L] Killinger Dear Chris, >I am new to the list and am posting my interest. >I am interested in the name KILLINGER from Annville, Lebanon Co and >Germany. >Hoping to connect. >Thanks, Chris I also have Killinger ancestors, though I need to go back a long way to find them. I'm descended from Michael Killinger (b. 15 May 1731, d. 11 July 1815) and wife Catharine through their daughter Elizabeth. Michael is buried at the Hill Church north of Cleona. Best wishes, Dave

Number three! Number three! Help! Help! Please! Please! Jacob(2), you disappeared--left town! Help! Thanks so much, Sue Jacob(1) GEBHART (c.1792-c.1871) m. Catherine SHUGAR (SCHUCKERT) (1792-1871) bur. St. John's Lutheran Church, Fredericksburg, Lebanon Co., PA 1. John (1819-?) prob. m. Susan UNKNOWN. Prob. had Susan Catherine, christened 24 June 1836 who m. John W. BOWMAN in 1857 at Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church, Elizabethtown, Lancaster Co., PA. 2. Marie (1820-45) age 25. 3. Jacob(2) (1824-c.1886) m. 21 Dec. 1848 Emmaline CORMANY (1831-1886) at Salem Lutheran Church, "both from S. Annville Twp.," Lebanon Co., PA by Rev. W.G. ERNST. Living Millerstown (Annville), N. Annville Twp., Lebanon Co., PA in the 1850 census. In 1880 federal census, living apart. Emmaline bur. Mt. Annville churchyard, catty-corner from Annville United Zion Church, Lebanon Co., PA. 4. Veronica (1827-?) christened 14 Sept. 1832 at Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church, Elizabethtown, Lancaster Co., PA, mother sole sponsor, perhaps m. Amos HERRHAUF on 9 March 1851. 5. Martin GEBHART (1830-1911) christened 14 Sept. 1832 at Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church, Elizabethtown, Lancaster Co., PA, mother sole sponsor. Married Sarah A. KLINGER (1837-1904)

Hi all-- I am seeking birth, bp or death record of this fellow: Peter BADDORF/BATDORF/BODDORF/BOTTORF, etc (c1790-1829) b 1788-1793, probably in Berks Co, PA; d 1829 in Dauphin Co, PA He may have been George Peter, Johannes Peter, or Jacob Peter Batdorf Thank you, Marc Seeking parentage (Penna.): (Mary) Cath STEINER Batdorf (c1780-aft1830 Berks>Daup), Wm FRANTZ (c1750-1805 Daup), Saml PETERS (c1821-c1870 Daup), Jacob RUDY (c1760-? Lanc>Daup), MaryAnn SWARTZ Peters (b1820-1897 Jun't>Daup), Cath UMBEHAUER Wertz (1790-1864 N'land/Lanc) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi all-- I have no net access; Does anyone know what email address(es) I need in order to subscribe to these electronic newsletters? * Best of Dear Myrtle * FTM online (bimOnthly) * Shaking Your Family tree (weekly) Thank you, Marc Seeking parentage (Penna.): (Mary) Cath STEINER Batdorf (c1780-aft1830 Berks>Daup), Wm FRANTZ (c1750-1805 Daup), Saml PETERS (c1821-c1870 Daup), Jacob RUDY (c1760-? Lanc>Daup), MaryAnn SWARTZ Peters (b1820-1897 Jun't>Daup), Cath UMBEHAUER Wertz (1790-1864 N'land/Lanc) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

With all the messages re: RUDY, I thought I would send what I have in my database. It needs more work but maybe it will offer some clues. Would appreciate anybody's help to fill in the blanks. Roger Cramer Peoria, AZ Descendants of Claus (Niklaus Nicholas) Rudin 1 Claus (Niklaus Nicholas) Rudin b: in Bubendorf, Canton of Basle, Switzerland .. 2 Jakob Rudin b: 1601 in Bubendorf, Canton of Basle, Switzerland ...... +Barbara (Pratteler) Bratteler ....... 3 Heinrich Rudin ........... +Magdalena Tschudi m: January 12, 1658 in Bubendorf, Canton of Basle, Switzerland ............ 4 Hieronymus Rudin b: 1665 ................ +Barbara Stohler ................ 5 Hieronymus (Jerome) Rudin .................... +Catharina Salathe m: August 29, 1710 ..................... 6 Friedrich Rudin b: February 20, 1716 in Bubendorf, Canton of Basle, Switzerland ......................... +Elisabeth Schaublin b: October 28, 1712 m: January 21, 1738 .......................... 7 Jonas Rudy b: December 16, 1751 in PA (served during Revolutionary War-lived in Bethel Twp., D. Co., now Lebanon) d: December 30, 1810 in PA (buried at St. John's Lutheran & Ref. Church Cem., Fredericksburg, PA) Age at death: 59 .............................. +Anna Barbara Overkirsch b: September 28, 1751 in PA d: April 8, 1836 in PA Age at death: 84 .............................. 8 Christina Barbara Rudy .................................. +John Bixler .............................. 8 Elizabeth Rudy .................................. +Samuel Hacher .............................. 8 Frederick Rudy .............................. 8 John Rudy .............................. 8 Jonas Rudy .............................. 8 Michael Rudy .............................. 8 Peter Rudy .............................. 8 Maria Magdalena Rudy b: May 14, 1784 in PA (baptized 11/14/1784 at St. John's Luth. & Ref. Church, Fredericksburg, PA) d: 1845 in PA Age at death: 61 est. .................................. +Johannes Faber b: 1777 d: 1828 in PA Age at death: 51 est. ................................... 9 Catharina Faber ....................................... +John Baker ................................... 9 Sarah Elizabeth Faber b: 1807 in PA d: 1902 in PA Age at death: 95 est. ....................................... +Jacob Wert b: 1804 in PA d: 1890 in PA Age at death: 86 est. ................................... 9 Adam Faber b: February 4, 1815 d: October 1, 1895 in PA (buried in Lutheran and Reformed Church Cemetery, Berrysburg, Dauphin Co., PA Age at death: 80 ....................................... +Susanna Koppenhaver b: April 3, 1819 d: November 3, 1889 Age at death: 70 ................................... 9 Susanna Faber b: November 26, 1825 in Dauphin Co., PA d: May 12, 1869 Age at death: 43 ....................................... +Lehr ................................... *2nd Husband of Susanna Faber: ....................................... +Phillip Sweigert b: February 3, 1820 m: Aft. 1843 d: November 14, 1894 Age at death: 74 ..................... 6 Johannes Rudin

I am searching for DIENA OR DIANA, and MILLER or MOLNAR My mother, MARIE DIENA, was born in Millardsville PA, Lebanon county on 02/09/25 to HELEN MILLER and DOMENIC DIENA, according to her application for a social security number. She, my mother, marie, passed away in 1969,but always told us that her maiden surname was DIANA, and her mother's maiden name was MOLNAR, so I just don't know where to begin. I just ran across this web site, and am new to geneology, but I noticed that LEBANON COUNTY is mentioned alot, and am hoping that someone might tell me where I could begin tracing. Any and all suggestions would be gratefully appreciated.

Hi Linnea, Here is a copy of Margareth Desh's will naming Barbara as Jacob Rudy's wife. I typed what I saw, misspellings, capital letters and all. I understand from Jackie Yurchuck that we have another connection, is it though the Eldridge's? Regards, Donna Thomas Will of Margareth Desh of the Township of Bethel, Recorded in Book A, page 159, filed August 15, 1817. Original document can be found at the Lebanon County Courthouse. In the name of God Amen This Fifteenth Day of July in the Year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and nine I Margarth Desh, of Bethel Township, in the County of Dauphin, and State of Pennsylvania Widow Being at present Old and Sickly and weak in Body but Nevertheless of Sound and Disposing mind and Memory and understanding Thanks be to God for the same calling unto Mind the Mortality of my Body and knowing that it is appointed For all Men once to die. Do make and Ordain this my Last Will and Testament That is to say: Principally and first of All I Recommend my Immortal Soul into the Hands of Almighty God who gave it me and my body, I Recommend to the Earth to be Buried in a Decent and Christian like manner at the Discretion of my Hereafter Named Executor; and us Touching such worldly Estate wherewith it hath Pleased God to Bless me in the Life. I Give and dispose of the same in the following Manner and Form: Imprimis, this is my will and I Do hereby order in the first place that all my Just Debts and funeral expenses should be paid off out of my estate as soon as Conveniently may be by my Hereafter named Executors Item This is my will and ___ hereby Order that all my Household Implements and Kitchen furniture Shall be sold by Public Vandue, as Soon as Conveniently may be after my Decease, and the arissing out of the same when Collected shall be Equally Divided to and amongst all my Children; Share and Share alike that is to say viz unto my son John Desh one Equal share, to my Son Philip Desh one Equal share, to my Daughter Barbara now the Wife of Jacob Rucy one Equal Share, To my Daughter Elizabeth now the wife of Adam Bigler one Equal share, to my Daughter Anna Maria Snadderly one Equal share, To my Daughter Catharina now the wife of Henry Kemple one Equal Share, and to my son in Law Jacob Cassel one Equal Share, Item it is my will that my House and Lot of Ground in Stumpstown, where (I at Present Live in) the said Township of Bethel and County aforesaid, Shall be sold on Public Vandue to the Higest Bidder and Best Price as may be gotten for the same, and I do hereby Impower My Executor or Executors or the Survivor of them, to Give, Sigh, Seal and Deliver a deed Sufficient Deed of Conveyance for the same to the Purchaser of the same and the money arissing out of my Real Estate Shall be likewise, Equally Divided unto the amongst all my above mentioned and Named Children Share and Share alike, Item it is my will and I give and Bequeath unto my Daughter Barbara now the wife of Jacob Rudy the sum of Four Pounds Nine Shilings and four pence, farthing. Over and above her Equal Share with the Test of my other Children, which said sum of money belongs to her the said Barbara out of the Perssonal Estate of my Late Husband Philip Desh (and Father of the said Barbara) Deceased and Shall be paid to her by my Executor out of the first money arissing out of my Estate after my Decease, and it is Further my will that if any of my above named Children or their Representatives Shall Refuse or will not be Satisfied with their Respective Share so Bequeathed and ordered by me in the Proviss of this my Last Will and Testament by me made, all such Child or Children or Their proper Representative so refusing Shall Receive only Five Pounds in Stead of his or their Whole Equal share and no more of in, to, or out of all my Real and Perssonal Estate but shall Befor Ever Barred and Excluded of all and singular or every Part of parcel Except the within Five Pounds -- and no more anything herein Containing the Contrary hereof not withstanding And it is my will that all the Remainder of Real and Perssonall Estate which I shall Leave Behind me after my Decease, I give and Bequeath unto all my within mentioned Children John, Philip, Barbara, Elizabeth, anna Maria, Catharina, Jacob Cassel and to their Heirs and Assigns forever, Share and share alike (Except as as before Exceptet) (and ___ all those which will Refuse) and Lastly I do Hereby Nominate Constitute and appoint my Trusty and Beloved Friend and son John Desh ----- Executor of this my Last will and Testament Revoking Disannulling and making void all forms and other Will and Wills and Executors by me heretofore made Ratifying and confirming this and none other to be my Last Will and Testament In Witness whereof I Margareth Desh Have hereunto set my hand and seal the Day and Year first above written -------------- Signed, Sealed, Published Pronounced and Margareth (her X mark) Desh Declared by her the Within Named Margareth Desh the Testatrix for her last will and Testament in the pressence of us, who at her Request and in her presence, and in the Presence of each other, have Subscribed our Names as witness Thereto ---------- Christian Obanholtzer John Stoueth Lebanon County ___ This fifteen Day of August A.D. one thousand eight hundred and seventeen Before me ___ Shulze Register for the Probate of Wills and granting letters of Administration in and for the County aforesaid personally came Christian Obanholtzer (?) and of the subscribing witness to the above Will and being Duly Affirmed according to Law doth depose and say that he was present and saw and heard Margarete Desh the Testatrix sign seal publish pronounce and declare the foregoing Instrument of Writing as and for his last Will and Testament and at the time of so doing she was of perfect sound mind and memory to the best of his knowledge observation and belief. ___ Shulze ___

I'll further complicate things: I have a Jacob RUDY (wife unk.) with a daughter Margaret born 17 Dec. 1753 in Lebanon Co.; her will was filed 1 Oct 1825 (Leb. Co. Book A, p. 448); she married Adam FABER. My connection is that she had a daughter Magdalene FABER on 26 Nov. 1775 and Magdalene married my ancestor, Jacob SATTEZAHN (or Satazahn, or Satteson, or whichever you like). If any of this connects with anyone, i'd be delighted to share info on my Sattesons. I'd like info on "this" Jacob RUDY's background if known. Tony Seidel in Sonora, CA

Watching the Jacob Rudy exchanges the last month -my notes are that Susanna Jungblud/Youngblood, daughter of my ancestor Nicholaus Youngblood married Jacob Rudy/Rudi 15 March 1768 , First Reformed Church, Lebanon, Lancaster County PA,( PA German Marriages, Donna Irish) their child Susannah bap. 26 April 1772, First Reformed Church, Lebanon. Don't know how this helps or fits in but will pass it on. I would like to hear from anybody with information on the Youngblood line. Ed Wagggoner ---------- > From: der@redrose.net > To: PALEBANO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PALEBANO-L] Jacob Rudy/Ristenbatt, etc. > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:48 AM > > Hi Helen, Donna and Linnea, > > > Hi Helen and Donna, > > > > Just to throw another fly into the ointment...I have a Barbara Desch (Desh) > > married to a Jacob Rudy in Fredericksburg, Lebanon Co. I have 3 daughters > > for them. Magdalena Rudy born Feb 6, 1800, bapt Mar 1800; Barbara Rudy born > > Oct 31, 1805, bapt Dec 1, 1805; and Margaret Rudy born Aug 24, 1811. All in > > Fredericksburg. I have a copy of Barbara's mother's will listing her as "my > > daughter Barbara now the wife of Jacob Rudy". On the 1790 Census for Bethel > > Township two Jacob Rudy's were listed, one as Sr. > > It sounds to me like this could be the Jacob Rudy then who was the > guardian of Hermanus RISSENPOT[sic] aka RISTENBATT in 1820. Hermanus was > born 1805, so he would fit right into this age group of children. And > Fredericksburg is the right area for the Ristenbatt family. Sounds like > an entire string of "Jacobs." When children chose guardians in those days > ( those who were over 14, under 21), did they usually choose a family > member, or could it just be a good friend? I can't help but wonder why > Hermanus chose this Jacob RUDY, if he were a relative or whatever. It > might provide me with some clues to this family. So if you ever come > across any Ristenbatt links (with the various spelling variatons - about > 15 or more!), please let me know. Oh, and a John REISENPOT, whom I truly > believe to be Hermanus' brother, was mentioned as a bound child in the > will of John GLICK in 1822, Bethel Twp., Lebanon, so don't know if there > is any family connection there or not, with John GLICK, that is. (The > will abstract said bond child, but the actual will said bound child. Good > reason to always check the original.) Then there was an Esther RISTENPAT > who married David SCHAD in 1828 at the Evangelical Lutheran Church in > 1828, Jonestown. I strongly suspect that she was a sister to Hermanus > and John. Once again, if any links, please let me know. Thanks so much. > > Donna > > Donna > > Regards, > Donna Ristenbatt > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > der@redrose.net > Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS > http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Ships' Lists, PA and Mennonite Research Corner, > Dutch Research Corner, Cemetery Lists, > Rev. War Loyalists, Finding a Civil War Ancestor, > Many Surnames and More! > > > ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== > Check out the Lebanon County PA Historical Society web page: > <http://www.leba.net/~history2/> >

der@redrose.net wrote: > > Question here: If the child were 14 or over they got to choose their own > guardian, is that correct? Donna and all, Yes, that is correct, at least in theory. In this case I got the definite feeling that it had all been arranged in advance, since the same person was appointed for all six of them, but I have seen cases where different children chose different ones. > Also, I believe you are saying, then, that if a > child is choosing a guardian, the father being deceased, that it might be > a good time to check for a remarriage of the mother? Yes, if there is no other obvious reason for the choice of time to appoint one. It had to do with the fact that a widow had almost the same rights as a man, and she could act legally for her own children, but if she remarried she was not a widow anymore and they then needed a guardian. > (She didn't > necessarily get remarried, but is just a possibility to consider?) Yes. I know that Catherine Frank did not in fact remarry; that was not the reason in her case but I have definitely seen it in others. > I know > from my Dutch research that the Orphans Court in the Netherlands would > intervene when there was a second marriage - to make sure the children of > the first marriage were adequately taken care of. Is that the case in PA > during the 1700s and 1800s? I'm not sure it was so much to make sure they were adequately taken care of although that may have been a factor. As I said above, it had at least in part to do with the greater rights of widows than of married women. > If so, there are a lot of Orphans Court > records missing, so maybe I am answering my own question. :-) Right. A guardian was not appointed for the children every time a father died leaving minor children, if he also left a competent widow. I think that in practice anyway there had to be at least one other reason. > I also have > seen a father appointed as guardian of his children after the mother died. > Does that mean that *he* is getting remarried?, so once again time to > check for that remarriage? Well frankly I have no idea what that means. *His* remarriage would not ordinarily make any difference. I would suspect there may have been some sort of family dissention in that particular case and somebody wanted to intervene and take them over or something like that. Jan

Sorry, should have included some dates: Joh. Leonard Lang and Anna Eliz. Ziegler md. 1743 Leonard Lang, son of Joh. Leonard, b. 1752 Martin Lang born 1744 > Still on the trail of Martin Lang(e)/Long, I've found the > baptism sponsor for two of his children to be Anthony Lang, > son of Joh. Leonard Lang of Swatara Twp. > > I suspect that Leonard may also be Martin's father. Leonard > is said to have had 8 children with wife Anna Elizabeth > Ziegler. I have found three: Anna Regina, Leonard, and Anthony. > > If Martin fits into this family, he would be the eldest of the > eight. > > Do any Long researchers have information on the other 5 of > Leonard's children? > > Charlie

Still on the trail of Martin Lang(e)/Long, I've found the baptism sponsor for two of his children to be Anthony Lang, son of Joh. Leonard Lang of Swatara Twp. I suspect that Leonard may also be Martin's father. Leonard is said to have had 8 children with wife Anna Elizabeth Ziegler. I have found three: Anna Regina, Leonard, and Anthony. If Martin fits into this family, he would be the eldest of the eight. Do any Long researchers have information on the other 5 of Leonard's children? Charlie