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http://world.altavista.com/ Try this for a translation. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 08:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PALEBANO] Need a French Translation This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jdB.2ACI/368 Message Board Post: Can anyone please help me with a short paragraph that was written to me in French? I would greatly appreciate it. Dawn Morin ==== PALEBANO Mailing List ==== Access Pennsylvania On-Line Library Catalogue: <http://accesspa.brodart.com/>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jdB.2ACI/368 Message Board Post: Can anyone please help me with a short paragraph that was written to me in French? I would greatly appreciate it. Dawn Morin

Dear List, In 1933 when my ggrandfather died his obit stated that he was a member of 'The United Americans of Myerstown". Can anyone tell me about this organization? Thank You John H.

To the person who asked: ILL is inter-library loan. Hope this helps. Linda

Hello, I am searching for more information about a Melchoir Mease, born Feb. 25, 1845 in Union Township. He was a son of David and Rosanna Mease. The birthdate and names of the parents match exactly with an Emanuel Mease, who is found on the 1870 Census with a wife named Sarah and a daughter named Isadora, born in 1869. Isadora's marriage application lists her father as a Melchoir Mease. I believe Melchoir Mease and Emanuel Mease were the same person. I have a copy of Emanuel Mease's death certificate. He was born Feb. 25, 1845, died July 5, 1909 in Union Township. His parents were David and Rosanna Mease. Perhaps Emanuel was Melchoir's middle name. Would anyone have more information about Melchoir/Emanuel Mease? I would like to know if there were other children besides Isadora. Melchoir/Emanuel Mease may have been the father of my greatgrandfather, Hiram (Hiley) F. Mease, born June 9, 1874 in Greenpoint; but I have no proof at this time. Unfortunately, the Melchoir/Emanuel Mease family is not found on the 1880 Census. Melchoir/Emanuel Mease's first wife Sarah was born in 1849, died 1882. He remarried in 1892 to a Mary(Rupp) Ditzler. They had no children together. I would greatly appreciate any information someone might have about this family. Thank you very much for your help! Elizabeth Hagenbuch [email protected]

ILL = Inter-Library Loan At 5:10 PM -0400 6/20/03, betlar wrote: >I heartily agree with what you say here Linnea. My family has all agreed >that we will not enter any information into our family tree that is not >verified by reliable sources. I have also found that many, many times I have >to spend time emailing someone who has posted information that is of >interest to me and ask for their sources. One person got upset with me for >emailing her and said she had all the sources online.........but never told >me where. If she would have had her web site in her post that would have >helped and I would not have had to bother her. > >In many other instances, I have been very surprised to find that a lot of >people are just using information from someone else's web site and accepting >it as true without having any idea of the sources. So then I have to end up >emailing the owners of the web sites also. A lot of time would indeed be >saved by posting sources along with the information. But overall, genealogy >is a field that is full of very caring sharing people and I have met many of >them through these mailing lists. > >I have a question........what is ILL that you mention in your post below? > >Thank you, >Elizabeth --

We all know how important it is in genealogy to know where you found information and to include that citation with the individual's data. Original documentation is preferred, but this is not always possible due to various hindrances, so we use secondary sources such as compilations of vital records, wills, deeds, etc. as well as the many county histories and personal genealogies available at our libraries. Citing these sources is easy, since we know exactly where the data came from and can use that agency or book to obtain the proper notation information. We also find information through mailing lists and other web sites. This is where many of us would often like to know more about exactly where this information came from. It's so nice when the poster of the information at least cites the volume where it was found, since there may even be more in that book of interest in other areas of research. I don't know about you all, but I like to actually see the data with my own eyes, if at all possible. If the book is not available at your local library, you can often find it through ILL or have someone copy the page(s) you need plus the title page for the proper notations. Somewhere I had seen someone write that "Genealogy without sources is fantasy." To be most helpful to fellow researchers, try to cite your sources when posting information. Thank you. -Linnea Miller List Administrator --

Born November 10, 1774 to Leonard Koehler and Elizabeth Clewell in Lebanon County. Husband of Delila Maria Bricker (1777 - 1804), whom he married October 29, 1800. Nathaniel remarried, on December 22, 1805 to Rebecca Maria Kaufman, after first wife Delila Maria's early death. His last daughter by Rebecca Maria, was born 1823, but when did he pass away? Thanks, Dale Bricker

Hi, this what I have for Springfield, Bucks Co. Metzgar Elizabeth, born 29 Oct 1773, d/o Andrew and Barbara Metzgar, sp Elizabeth Metzger Catharine, born 22 Sept 1773, d/o John and Eliza Catharine Metzger, sp Jonas and Catharine Metzger Caspar Metzgar and Elizabeth Gerh, sp to Mary Magdalena Sonan, born 7 weeks before Christmans, 1779 Elizabeth Catharine, 23 Oct 1776, d/o Andrew and Barbara Metzger, sp John Metzgar and wife Elizabeth, 16 May 1776, d/o Caspar and Juliana Metzgar, sp John Metzgar Philip, 7 Nov 1778, s/o Andrew and Barbara, sp John Jost Schmidt Christian, s/o Andrew and Barbara Metzgar, 7 Oct 1781, sp Christian Cares/Geris, and Maria Metzgar Rev. War Metzgar Jacob, PA Line, soldier was born 22 Jan 1747, he lived in Northumberland Co at enlistment, he died 14 June 1821 Phillips Isaac, PA line, soldier was born in Aug 1763 in Bucks Co and at the age of 10 was moved to Fayette Co., PA where he lived at enlistment. he applied 1833. Soldier also served as a sub for his 1/2 brother, William Wells. Metzgar-War of 1812 William, wf Mary, PA Mil Jonas, wf. Mary, Ohio William, MD Metzgar-Monroe County History I. Grandfather, Christian Metzgar,was born in Bucks County, an a early settler of Ross County, Monroe County, his wife was Elizabeth Strout. Children; Samuel, Tina, the wife of John Shupp of Chestnut Hill, Monroe Co.,Julia, the wife of William Newhart, of Ross township, Annie who married Levi Frantz of Ross township, Lavina, who married Jacob Bond of Chestnut Hill. And when researching Phillips, you may want to check out Walton. Best Wishes, Geri

Kahler-Northumberland County Kahler, William S., of Upper Mahanoy township since 1876 belongs to a family which has been located in Juniata County, since his grandfather, Philip Kahler came to the country from Germany in 1852. He landed at Castle Garden, NY, and proceeded to Juniata County. He and his wife are buried at Leinniger's Church. Mr. and Mrs. Philip Kahler had children as follolw: Margaretha who married Henry Ford, Barbara, who married Barney Fogel, William, George. George Kahler, son of Philip was a native of Germany, came to this country at age 14 with his parents. He lived in Greenwich, Juniata County. Members of Leininger's Church, where he is buried. His 1st marriage was to Amelia Snyder d/o Jonas. Children: Catharine, who married William Feltmam, Philip, died in infancy, Louisa, married Amos Howerter, William S., Susan, married Jacob Mitterling. For his second wife Mr. Kahler married Lydia Hallman, and they had, Edward and George H., of Jackson township. William S. Kahler, was born Aug 9, 1856 in Greenwhich township, Juniata County. In 1880 he married Mary Howerter the only daughter of Elias and Caroline (Leffler) Howerter. Children, 1.Katie who married Francis M. Paul of Shamokin,d/o William Paul, and they had one child, Verna. 2. Francis H., who married Eliza Paul, and they had one son, Clarence W. Howerter, Johan Peter, son of Adam Howerter came to Northumberland County with his father. He married Elizabeth Diehl, was born Aug 27, 1778, d/o Johannes Diehl and sister of his brother wife Catharine. Mrs. Howerter died July 6, 1860, the mother of the following; Solomon,Peter, Daniel, Abraham, Elizabeth who married Peter Zerfink, Catharine who married Peter Stoudt and Polly, who married Daniel Bloom. Solomon Howerter, son of John Peter, was born Feb 1, 1805 he died June 25, 1878, and his wife Mary (Helper), born Feb 7, 1808 and died June 14, 1876. They are buried at Howerter Church. Children, Elias, died June 30, 1907, aged 79, and his only child, Mary married William S. Kahler. York County-Kohler Kohler, Adam of Dallastown, was born in York County, Jan 1, 1842, son of Jacob and Mary (Sechrist). He had 5 brothers and 3 sisters, George, Eli, Jacob, John, Charles, Mary, who married Reuben E. Beard of Phila., Leah, married 1st Henry Neff, 2nd William Snyder and Casandra who married Henry Myer of Red Lion. Adam Kohler, married May 28, 1870 to Alice Geesy, d/o Samuel and Sallie (Reachard). Children; Claudia Estelle who married Halbart Bayler of York, Lillie May, Alvertra Bell, Mabel Garland, Leona A., and Howard E. Charles Kohler, son of Jacob and Mary, and grandson of George and Catharine, was born near Dallastown, Sept 26, 1846, he married Aug 18, 1872 to Emaline Geesey of York, d/o Jonathan and Sarah (Flinchbaugh) Geesey Jonathan and Sarah Geesey had children, Adam F., Jonathan, Pius, both of Dallastown, John F., died in 1902, Mary who married Henry Barshinger, Sarah the wife of Daniel Peters of York. Charles and Emaline Kohler had one child, Phineas Latimer, who was born Feb 20, 1879. Kohler, Henry F.,of Nashville, PA, was born July 17, 1863, in York County, near Kohler's Mill, an old buhrmill near Little Codorus, s/o Jacob and Lydia (Husson) Kohler. (1) Baltzer Kohler, a soldier of the Rev. (II) Jacob Kohler, born in York, he married a Seachrist and had;George, Catharine, Jacob, Mary, John, Adam, Eli, and Charles (III) Jacob2, father of Henry F. , was born in York County, April 1837, he married Lydia Husson, born in 1840, d/o Frank. Children; Ada, Wesley, of Dallastown, Jacob of Seven Valleys, Sedon, of Jacobus,. Jacob2 married 2nd to Ellen Hildebrand of York, d/o Jeremiah and Friederica (Reincker). Children: Wilber J., a minister of the Reformed Church, Gordon E., Paul E., and Ella F., who married Robert Beockel. (IV) Henry F., married Oct 30, 1888 in Glen Rock to Isabell Shaffer, d/o Edward and Ellen (Eppley) Shaffer. Children: Clarence E., Norman V., Carl K., Horace Ellwood. I. Jacob, married Anna Seachrist II Elias, married Harriet Peeling, d/o John. Children; Minnie, Chaucey C., Anna Gertrude, Earl C., Harper L. III Chauncey C., born May 30, 1874, married June 13, 1898 to Florence Metzgar, d/o Andrew of Phila., Best Wishes, Geri

My updated website now lists 227 birth and death stats from my records of Moonshine Cemetery located in Lebanon Co., Pa. Also features a mini-story on the "Blue Eyed Six. website: http://users.nbn.net/~charo/ Charles E. Kindt - Lebanon,Pa. Genealogy research in Pa.Counties; LEBANON-LANCASTER-DAUPHIN-BERKS-SCHUYLKILL BEHNEY-BOHR-BOLTZ-COPENHAVER-DEAVEN-DISSINGER-DITZLER FAHLER-FAKE-GERBERICH-GETTLE-HIMMELBERGER-KINDT-KOHR KREISER-McKINNEY-MEASE-SCHAEFFER-SHAEFFER-WEABER website: http://users.nbn.net/~charo/ KEEPER OF THE FLAME - GENEALOGY SPOKEN HERE

Lancaster County History Emanuel Zimmerman or Carpenter, was a son of Henry Carpenter and he was born in Switzerland in the year 1702. Henry Carpenter had arrived in Phila., 1698, but afterward Henry Carpenter returned to Europe in 1706, bringing his family with him. He first settled near Germantown, but removed to within the present bounds of Lancaster Co., then Chester Co. In 1717 Emanuel Carpenter was a member of the Assembly from Lancaster county in1768. In 1766 he was appointed a presiding justice of the Common Pleas court of Lancaster county and held that position until his death in 1780. He is buried in Zimmerman's or Carpenter's gaveyard, near Earlville Lancaster County History Kohler, John, Rev. (subect) was born May 27, 1820 in Thompsonville, Juniata Co, and died at his home in New Holland, Lancaster Co, April 11, 1878. He is buried in the cemtery attached to the Lutheran Church in New Holland. The parent of Rev. John, was Andrew and Anna M (Brennisholtz) Kohler of Adams County. His death occured in New Berlin, Union Co. Children born to Andrew; Jacob, died young, Rev. John, Andrew, of Akron, Ohio, William of Juniata Co. Frederick of Juniata Co., Margaret, the wife of ___ Fisher, Simon of New Berlin, Augustus died young out West, Thomas, who died at 16 Rev. John, married Feb 6, 1846 in Mifflintown, Juniata Co. to Louisa Baum. Children; Emma J., Charles a clergyman of the Lutheran Church in Cleavland, Ohio and he married Elizabeth Truckenmiller, Dr. John B., of New Holland, married Ella Strob, Martin Luther, a lawyer in Phila., married Josephin Royer, Anna, Rev. Frederick of Chicago, married Victoria Brown and they lived in Chicago, George an optician, Louisa E, who married Robert Brown, an undertaker of Stroudsburg,Monroe County and Mary who married William M. Mearig of Upper Leacock township. Rev. John served at Williamsport, New Holland, Trapp, Montgomery County and Stroudsburg, Monroe Co, then he became the principal of Muhlenberg College at Allentown. Mrs. Kohler, was born Aug 7, 1820 in New Berlin, Union Co., d/o Samuel and Elizabeth (Snyder) Baum of Bucks County. Mr. Baum was born in Bucks county in 1769, and died Oct 2, 1842. The paternal grandparent were Carl and Barbara (Ewens) Baum, the former born in Germany and the latter in Scotland. The maternal grandparents of Mrs. Kohler were Jacob and Margaret (Daws) Snyder, the former a native of Germany and the latter of Phila. Wayne County-Koehler Andrew Koehler, hardware merchant of Starruca, Wayne Co. Mr. Koehler was born in Indiana, March 11, 1852, a son of Dr. Philip Koehler, of Colorado City, Colorada. He was born on the Rhine River in Germany. He married Magalena Hilman of the same place, and they came to America in 1848, locating in Ohio and then to Indiana. Children; Ollie, Andrew, Kate, Emil, Anna, Philip, Gustaf, and Jacob Monroe County-Kohler Six generation back the original ancestor of the Kohler family came to America and settled in Bethlehem, PA Charles Kohler, was born in Allen township, Northampton county, Aug 27, 1827. On April 8, 1848 he married Anna Elizabeth Werkheiser, born May 8, 1828, d/o Charles Werkheiser, of Plainfield township. Children; James, Diana, Louisa, Peter, Harrison, John, Sarah, Emma Augusta, Charles and Prof. Franklin, born Dec 21, 1871, married Sept 29, 1893 at Gilberts, Monroe County, to Ida Beer, a native of Chestnut Hill, d/o of Philip and Elizabeth (Green) Beer, granddaughter of Solomon and Elizabeth (Shook) Beer, one of the earlist settlers of Carbon Co. And it goes on and on. Best Wishes, Geri

Early settlers-Upper and Lower Milford. After 1733 there was an increased immigration to the lower part of the present Lehigh Co. During the years immediately following, the Schwenkfelders, the Mennonites, the Lutherans and the Reformed people. Lutherans, Gabriel Kohler (Cayler) German Reformed Peter Schlosser The organization of Upper Milford (now the Upper and Lower Milford of Lehigh Co.) We find that on June 30, 1737 a petition signed by Peter Walber, Ulrich Rieszer, Mathias Ochs (Ox) Johannes Meyer, Josehp Henckel, Daniel Rausch, Heinrich Wilhelm Dillinger, Heinrich Riesz, Christian Biegel, William Bitz, Jacob Wetzel, Johannes Beltzart, Theobald Mechlin, Johannes Post, Melchior Stecher, Michael Kohler, Felix Brunner, Jacob Derry, Michael Zimmerman, William Langhorts, Martin Weitknetcht, Johannes Baumgartner, Han Ord. Simon Schneiter (or Snyder) ancestor of the Schneiters ( or Snyders) in Upper Milford, purchased, June 8, 1762, from Adam Krammes. Jacob Schneiter, a grandson of Simon Schneiter, is still living (1884). Other descendants are still living (1884) in Upper Milford, among them, David Schneiter, John Schneiter, Charles Schneiter, Nathan Schneiter, Aaron Schneiter and Leon L. Snyder, Esq. Residents in 1781 Michael Flores, Jacob Kohler, Conrad Wetzel, John Wetzel, Conrad Witmeyer, Christian Young, Conrad Zeller, John Zeller 1812 Jacob Kehler, Peter Kehler, Adam Schneider, Jacob Schneider, Samuel Schneider, Simon Schneider, Daniel Wetzel, Jacob Wetzel, Jacob Wetzel, Jr., John Wetzel, Christian Zeller, John Zeller Single Freeman, George Flores, Henry Flores The orginal Upper Milford Lutheran Congregation, the orgin of the congregation occured near the present village of Dillingersville in the present township of Lower Milford, in about the year 1734 or 35. The record was opened in the year 1749 by paster, Rev. Ludolph Heinrich Schrencke. Among the names we find, John Peter Kohler, Gabriel Kohler, Peter Lang, Conrad Zeller The assessment roll of 1781 contains the name of Lawrence Klein. This was doubtless a father or brother of Christoper Klein, who settled there about that time. Christoper left 2 sons, Lawrence born 1795 and died 1882, leaving three sons and 3 daughters, and Reuben Whitehall township-1781, Jacob Kohler, Peter Kohler, Edman Doll, Jacob Flickinger, George Flickinger, Philip Knappenberger Jacob Kohler (Coler) emigrated from Mill Hausen, Switzerland, and settled in Egypt, between the year 1720 and 1730, with his family of 9 children, two sons, Peter and Jaco and seven daughters. Ulrich Burkhalter, the ancestor of the family in the township, immigrated to this country in the ship "Samuel" of Sweden, Aug 11,1732. He had one son, Peter, and one daughter Elizabeth Barbara, who marred Jacob Mickley. Peter Burkhalter had one son John Peter and two daughters, Maria Barbara who married ___Abel from Phila., and the other married Stephen Balliet John Peter had 9 children; Henry, Peter,moved Indiana., Joseph,moved to Ohio Charles,moved to Lower Milford, Daniel,moved to Indiana Polly the wife of Henry Mickley, Elizabeth, wife of Benjamin Boggs,moved to Crawford Co, Catharine the wife of Benjamin Kohler who moved to Carbon County, Salome who married Abraham Biery Best Wishes, Geri

Kohler-Berks County History I. John Kohler, great-grandfather, was born March 13, 1769, his was was Hannah Rosina Hechler, born April 3, 1772, d/o John and Maria, she died Nov 25, 1824 II Adam, son of John, born Sept 27, 1797, he married Annie Fisher, d/o Philip. Children; Daniel, Sarah who married Isaac Straub, Adam. died 1901. John F., Eliza A., wife George Kutz, and Samuel III Samuel D., who died Aug 16, 1908, on Jan 15, 1860 he married Amanda DeLong, children; Ida married Isaac Miller, Academus, David A., Rosie IV David A., married March 29, 1889 to Ellacyda M.L. Merkel, d/o John and Sally (Blanck) II John Kohler, grandfather of Dr. Daniel R. Kohler of Boyertown, was born 1804 in Greenwich township, was probably the son of John Kohler, he married Rebecca Leiby, d/o John III Daniel L., was born Feb 5 1834, he married Sallie Rahn in 1856, d/o John IV. Daniel R., married June 8 1893 to Mary E. Dietrich, d/o Daniel W. and Sallie (Merkel) Koller Family I. Andrew Koller Sr.,, grandfather, of Macungie, Lehigh township. He married Rebecca Seidel. Children; Solomon, married Catharine Schaeffer, Andrew, and Rebecca Gebhart II Andrew Koller, of Windsor later Perry, he died 1862. He married Hannah Sunday, d/o John Sunday of Windsor III Solomon Koller, married at Shoemakersville, to Maria Fister, d/o Peter of Greenwhich township Best Wishes, Geri

Hi, Kaler-War of 1812 George, Catharine, WO-2546, PA George or as George Kaeler, wf Judy PA Peter, SO-21535, PA Kailer Jacob, Susan, MD Kohler George, Elizabeth, MD Kolyer Henry or as Henry Cayler Mexican War Kohler Henry, alias Frederick, applied 1887 CA, as a Seaman on USS Raritan and NC in 1843-46 John, srv Ohio, filed in WI John W., wf. Magdalen filed in NJ Koller Daniel, wf Martha filed in VA Remarried Widows Kohler Elizabeth A., filed in 1902 and 1917, widow of Isaac M. Fleenor, IA Inf Koller Mary, filed 1912, w/o Nathan Dorman,KS Cav Koyler Ada K., filed 1933, w/o Eugene Kingman, ME Inf Anspach Mary E., w/o Conrad Koehler, KY Cav Antes Jeanette, w/o John Koehler, IA Cav DeHash Minie B., w/o Frederick W. Koehler alias Frederick Kerner, NJ Hist Mary, w/o Charles Koehler, IL Pfeiffer Mary E., w/o John L. Koehler, Ohio Inf Nett Ama, w/o John Koehler, NY Inf Buried at Northampton Kohler Stephen, Oct 1749, 2 sons and 1 daughter Michael, born 27 Sept 1753, died 11 Aug 1836, wife Cornelia (widow of Andrew Frankenfield; issue, Philip, John) children; Michae, George, Elizabeth who married John Beil, and they had (David, Sarah, Susan), Margaret married Isaac Hackman, Susan who married Jacob Young. Unangst, George, H., born 29 Dec 1752, his daughter Susanna married Michael Koehler Kohler, Maria, wife of Valentine, born Aug 1765,died 1795 Koehler, Peter, born 24 July 1755, died 4 July 1814, Philippine, his wife, born 1766, died 15 May 1819 Marriages recorded at Easton Oct 7, 1800 Michael Koehler to Cornelia Frauenfield Northampton County-Koehler I. Great grandfather is said to have come from Germany II Grandfather, John, life long resident of Northampton Co, founder of this branch of the family in the US III Father, Samuel, lived in Hanover township, died Feb 12, 1892, his wife Lucy (Biery), also of Northampton Co., died Nov 13, 1875. Children; Sarah the wife of Dr. John C. Foelker of Allentown, Uriah of Hanover township, Samuel J. of Catasauqua, William F., of Whitehall, Monroe E., Amanda the wife of Martin Zellner of Hanover township. IV Theodore J. married on April 20, 1871 to Ellen J. Faust,, who was born in Northampton Co., d/o Paul and Amelia (Breinig) Faust. Children; Edward F., Allen M., and Gertie A. The Faust family is an old and prominent one in the Lehigh Valley. Paul Faust, who died Nov 12,1883, a native of this county, her mother, a native of Berks County. Children; Annie, the wife of Irwin Boger, and they lived in Peru, IL., Walter of Lehigh County, Ellen J., the wife of Theordore Koehler, Mary A., the wife of John Gibson, and they lived in Slatington, and Clara B., who married George Nicholas Koehler, Milton H.(subject) of Hanover township, was born Jan 20, 1849, the s/o Conrad and Julia A. (Fuchs) Gabriel Koehler, great-grandfather, was one of three brothers who came to this county. Conrad Koehler, died in 1870, of his family they following are yet living (1894), Maria, the wife of John Ernst, and Milton H. Milton H., married Sarah A. Lerch, Nov 7, 1871, born Nov 7, 1847 in Palmer township, d/o Amandus and Ellevina (Gold) Lerch. The former comes from an old Northampton family. The mother was born in Bushkill township, and they became the parents of; Emma, the wife of George M. Warner, Sarah A., the wife of Milton H. Koehler, Eramands the wife of Thomas Wartman, Priscilla, the wife of Adam Grabwohl, Mary, the wife of Alfred Koehler, Levin, of Bethlehem and Edna the wife of Henry Ehrgott Koehler, Franklin, subject, was born April 27, 1837, a s/o Samuel and Abba (Schreiber) Koehler. The father and mother died when he was young and he went to lived with Jacob Schreiber, near Coplay. He married Susan Newhard in 1856. They had children; Emma J., Mary A., the wife of Lyman Howe, Joseph, William, Robert and Gertrude. Best Wishes, Geri

Hi Donna, no I don't but what I have found. Lancaster Co., Rohland, Maria Eliz., d/o Abraham and Marie Eva, born 28 Dec 1753 , Records of Rev. Waldschmidt Roland Elisabeth, d/o David and Susanna , born 16 Feb 1771, Muddy Creek Lutheran Church, E. Cocalico township Johannes, s/o Jonathan, , Nov. 1772 Trinity Lutheran Susanna, d/o Jonathan and Catharine, 26 July 1770 Trinity Lutheran Church Rowland Catharine, d/o Jonathan and Catharine, 25 july 1776-Trinity Lutheran Church, New Holland Rev. War Rowland Jacob, wf. Christina, PA Line, soldier married Christina Fernsler 13 Feb 1791 and soldier died 16 Aug 1841 and he left children; Jacob, Philip, Abraham, Michael, Henry, Elizabeth who married Jeremiah Bitz, Christine who married Israel Embich, Mary who married Jacob Spangler, Margaret who married John Mellinger, and Catharine who married Daniel Zimmerman (all were living in 1854). Soldier's widow had died 29 May 1849, on the 12 of April, 1854, Lebanon Co, the sons, Michael aged 42 of S. Lebanon Co and Henry Rowland, aged 49, of N. Lebanon Co, made joint aff'dt in 1854 Roland Jacob, PA Line, S7420, soldier was born about 5 miles from Lancaster and he lived in Lancaster at enlistment and then he moved to Hagerstown and Hancock, MD., then moved to Frederick Co. VA then moved to Shenandoah County, VA, where he applied in 1832, aged about 69. Roland, War of 1812 Robert, wife Mary, WO-28423, VA Thomas, SC-8438. VA Lancaster County-Roland Paternal grandparents, Jonathan (died 1847, aged 67) and Catharine (Huber) (died at aged 82) Roland. Both buried in New Holland. Father, Henry Roland, was born in Hinkletown, maried Margaret (Seeger), she was born in New Holland. Children; Catharine who married Esaias Kinzer of Leacock township; Jonathan H., who married Elizabeth James, William, a doctor at York, PA; John F., a grad of West Point, who died in Charlestown Harbor aged 36; Henry A., who died in 1901 aged 82, he married in 1849 to Jane Whann Heyl, d/o Philip and Margaret (Whann) and they had children, (Dr. Oliver of Lancaster, William H., a lawyer of Lancaster and Frederick of Reading, Berks Co); Cornelius F.; Julia, wife of the Hon. William H. Heister, at one time the secretary of the Commonwealth. Spangler Family of Lebanon County. Michael Spangler, founder, came here as early as 1732, puchasing a tract of land near Myerstown. He reared a family of 10 sons and 2 daughters, one of the former, George Spangler being the grandfather of Michael Spangler of W. Cornwall twp. George Spangler, was born near Myerstown in 1782. He married Catharine Dandies, children, Jacob, John, George, William, Catharine, who married John Lowinell and Sarah who married John Beckley. Jacob Spangler, father of Michael, was born in 1806, in Prescott, Lebanon Co. Michael Spangler, was born in 1830, in S. Lebanon Co, a son of Jacob and Maria (Beckley), the latter died in 1851 aged 42, she was the mother of 12. Michael Spangler married in 1859 to Barbara Witmer, born 1830, d/o Peter, of Lebanon Co. They had 5 children; Solomon who married Elizabeth Mellinger, of Ephrata, Lancaster Co; Oliver, married Catharine Mellinger; Abel who married Sarah Greiner, of Lancaster: Amanda and Daniel who married Elizabeth Steckbesk and lived in Lebanon Best Wishes, Geri

Hi, you may want to check these out. War of 1812 Fornwaldt- none listed Fornward- Benjamin, NY George, MA William or as William Forwood Forwood, William, widow Sarah (Forwood) WC-26094 , married 12 Feb 1818, New Castle, DE, soldier died 11 Sept 1860 Harford Co., MD Berks County History Fornwald, Reily M., subject, vet of the Civil war. He was born April 15, 1842, s/o George and Susan (Moyer) Fornwald of Heidelberg township. George Fornwald, grandfather of Heidelberg had children; George, Isaac, who died at Jonestown,where he is buried, Jonathan, died at Myerstown, his children (Adam, Nora, Agnes, Amelia, John and Emma) and Sarah, who married Jacob Stiely. George Fornwald,father, was born Feb 12, 1822 in N. Heidelberg, and died Dec 12, 1893. He married Susan Moyer, born July 16, died Feb 27, 1895, d/o Daniel ad Susan (Bellman) Moyer and to this union were born, Reily M., and William, who married Susan Rhoads, and they had ( Howard, Franklin, Charles, Samuel and Erb). Reily M. enlisted Sept 11, 1861 47th P.V.I. On Sept 28, 1867 he married Emma S. Betchel, born July 11, 1848, d/o Isaac Betchel of Roebsonia. Mr and Mrs. Fornwald had children, William F., born 1868 and died Nov 6, 1870; Allen L., born 29 Dec 1869, married Katie Zimmerman, d/o George of Lebanon Co., PA and they had 2 children, Earl Ethan Allen and Dorothy Katie. Dauphin County-West Hanover Township Bellman, Samuel, was born in Berks County, June 30, 1854, s/o Simon and Elizabeth (Brown) Bellman. His parents had 8 children; Mary, the wife of Samuel Brandt, Hannah, who married Frank Hain, Samuel, Rebecca, wife of Charles Kenney, Elizabeth, the wife of Ezra Struhower, Daniel, Sarah, the wife of Peter Hartman and David who died in infancy. Mr. Bellman, father of Samuel was born in Berks County. Samuel Bellman, married in Lebanon County, Sept 3, 1876 to Catharine, d/o Solomon and Fannie (Keiter) Cassel. They had two children;, Michael and Agnes. When Mr. Bellman moved to W. Hanover he began farming. Rev War Belman, Dewalt, or as Dewalt Bilman, see Dewalt Bilman Bilman, Dewalt or as Dewalt Belman, S39993, PA Line, applied 1818 Union Co. aged about 68, enlisted at Windsor township, Berks Co. Brandt, Joachim J., Navy Service, sailor's name appears on list of applicants for invailid pension returned by PA to House of Reps. on 25 April 1794, served as a Marine on the "Columbus", lived in Phila., PA. He was wounded at the taking of New Providence in March, 1776, he went to Europe in 1780 and returned in 1791. Lebanon County-Bollman The first of this old Lebanon Co., was John Bollman, native of Germany, who, with his wife, set sail in the good ship "Nancy", from Wurttember, in 1738, settled in Lebanon Co. One of his sons, John (2) served in the Rev. War, with the rank of Capt., he also had a son named John (3). Michael Bollman, son of John (3), was born in 1823, Mill Creek township, Lebanon Co. His mother, Mary Bennethum, was born in Berks Co., in the vicinity ofWomelsdorf, Berks Co. Michael Bollman, married Lucetta Bubb, born in 1825, d/o Daniel and granddaughter of Daniel Bubb, who in the 17th century, took up land and settled near Shaefferstown, Lebanon Co. On the maternal side, Lucetta Bubb was a d/o Sarah Miller, d/o Henry and granddaughter of Peter Miller who also served in the Rev. Best Wishes, Geri

Hi, Whoa! Hold on now. I think you hit on something, but I'm a bit confused. You stated: "Berks County History Fornwald, Reily M., subject, vet of the Civil war. He was born April 15, 1842, s/o George and Susan (Moyer) Fornwald of Heidelberg township. George Fornwald, grandfather of Heidelberg had children; George, Isaac, who died at Jonestown,where he is buried, Jonathan, died at Myerstown, his children (Adam, Nora, Agnes, Amelia, John and Emma) and Sarah, who married Jacob Stiely." I found this information on Sarah Fornwalt or Fornwald: born: 4 Apr 1812 Lebanon, PA, married 31 Jul 1831, Jonestown, PA, Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church Records to Jacob Witz (misspelled Wetz), died: 1 Jan 1882 East Saginaw, Saginaw County, MI. Who is Jacob Stiely??? Jacob and Sarah had 12 children, ALL of the PA children I don't know the location of birth, or PA location of deaths: Elisabeth, b: 4 Mar 1831 PA, d: 13 Apr 1834 PA; Caroline, b: 17 May 1832 PA, d: 1832 PA; Magdalina, b: 12 Dec 1834 PA, d: 27 Nov 1836 PA (named after father's mother); John, b: 16 Dec 1835, PA, d: 2 Apr 1910, MI (1st born male, named after father's father); Pollina (Polly) b: 4 Oct 1838, PA, d: ?, MI; Isaac, b: 6 May 1841, PA, d: 29 Mar 1907, MI; (named after the father's brother?) Nancy, b: 22 Sep 1843 PA, d: 17 Apr 1916, MI; Jacob, b: 5 Oct 1845, PA, d: ?, MI; (named after the father) Rolandus (Rolander), b: 10 Feb 1848, OH, d: 30 May 1928, MI; Aaron (twin), b: 24 Nov 1850, OH, d: 4 Apr 1922, MI; Ely (twin), b: 24 Nov 1850 OH, d: 27 Jun 1854, OH; and Henry, b: 8 Feb 1853 MI, d: 25 Jan 1934, MI (my GGGrandfather). Help me here on the name game, 1st male after the father's father, 2nd male after the mother's father, 3rd male after the father's oldest brother, 4th male after the father... is that how it goes with the German Lutheran and/or Reform Religion families??? If so, I may be missing another PA male infant birth and death between 1835 and 1838, cause the above names were taken from military records and census records in MI. Does the name get used if the infant dies at birth or is stillborn? Jacob's parents, John Witz and Magdalina "Mollie" (?maiden) Witz, born around 1785, and their families moved to Tiffin, Ohio together, before or after the Brestle family. "Magdalina wife of John Witz, died 1875, 91 yrs old" is buried in the Tiffin Ohio Brestle Family Plot. Only know currently three children of John and Magdalina Witz: Isaac Witz, b: ? PA; d: ? (only child "named" in John Witz OH Will, "other children" referenced) Jacob Witz, b: 28 Dec 1809, PA (my GGGGrandfather), d: 23 Aug 1880, Saginaw, MI Catherina Witz, b: 15 Oct 1816, PA; d: 9 May 1900, OH (married John Brestle) Catherina and John Brestle had 6 known children to date: G.W. Brestle, b: 11 Jan 1837, Dauphin County, PA, d: ?, OH (G.W.'s military & personal sketches reference Catherina's maiden name as Witz) William Brestle, b: ? d: ? Irene M. Brestle, b: ?, Tiffin, OH, d: ? (married Andrew Brandeberry in Tiffin, OH., Andrew's military & personal sketches reference Catherina's maiden name as Witz) Charles Brestle, b: 1855, OH, d: ? Edward Brestle, b: 1856, OH, d: ? Lillie M. Brestle, b: 1861, OH, d: ? Question: Why can't I find the birth, baptism and death records of the Jacob Witz's first three children in PA?? I am aware of a number of Witz individuals dating back further in Berks, Philadelphia and Montgomery Counties, but have been unable to connect many of them. There were a number of John Witz's and Jacob Witz's throughout Southeast PA. I believe they are ALL connected but haven't been able to find the connecting documentation....it's so frustrating when you can see a tree but not make out the forest that it's part of!! Geri, thanks for the additional puzzle pieces, and thank you for your help, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "geri brennan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Dauphin County > Hi, you may want to check these out. > War of 1812 > Fornwaldt- none listed > Fornward- > Benjamin, NY > George, MA > William or as William Forwood > > Forwood, William, widow Sarah (Forwood) WC-26094 , married 12 Feb 1818, > New Castle, DE, soldier died 11 Sept 1860 Harford Co., MD > > Berks County History > Fornwald, Reily M., subject, vet of the Civil war. He was born April 15, > 1842, s/o George and Susan (Moyer) Fornwald of Heidelberg township. > George Fornwald, grandfather of Heidelberg had children; George, Isaac, > who died at Jonestown,where he is buried, Jonathan, died at Myerstown, > his children (Adam, Nora, Agnes, Amelia, John and Emma) and Sarah, who > married Jacob Stiely. > > George Fornwald,father, was born Feb 12, 1822 in N. Heidelberg, and died > Dec 12, 1893. He married Susan Moyer, born July 16, died Feb 27, 1895, > d/o Daniel ad Susan (Bellman) Moyer and to this union were born, Reily > M., and William, who married Susan Rhoads, and they had ( Howard, > Franklin, Charles, Samuel and Erb). > > Reily M. enlisted Sept 11, 1861 47th P.V.I. On Sept 28, 1867 he married > Emma S. Betchel, born July 11, 1848, d/o Isaac Betchel of Roebsonia. Mr > and Mrs. Fornwald had children, William F., born 1868 and died Nov 6, > 1870; Allen L., born 29 Dec 1869, married Katie Zimmerman, d/o George of > Lebanon Co., PA and they had 2 children, Earl Ethan Allen and Dorothy > Katie. > > Dauphin County-West Hanover Township > Bellman, Samuel, was born in Berks County, June 30, 1854, s/o Simon and > Elizabeth (Brown) Bellman. His parents had 8 children; Mary, the wife of > Samuel Brandt, Hannah, who married Frank Hain, Samuel, Rebecca, wife of > Charles Kenney, Elizabeth, the wife of Ezra Struhower, Daniel, Sarah, > the wife of Peter Hartman and David who died in infancy. Mr. Bellman, > father of Samuel was born in Berks County. > > Samuel Bellman, married in Lebanon County, Sept 3, 1876 to Catharine, > d/o Solomon and Fannie (Keiter) Cassel. They had two children;, Michael > and Agnes. When Mr. Bellman moved to W. Hanover he began farming. > > Rev War > Belman, Dewalt, or as Dewalt Bilman, see Dewalt Bilman > > Bilman, Dewalt or as Dewalt Belman, S39993, PA Line, applied 1818 Union > Co. aged about 68, enlisted at Windsor township, Berks Co. > > Brandt, Joachim J., Navy Service, sailor's name appears on list of > applicants for invailid pension returned by PA to House of Reps. on 25 > April 1794, served as a Marine on the "Columbus", lived in Phila., PA. > He was wounded at the taking of New Providence in March, 1776, he went > to Europe in 1780 and returned in 1791. > > Lebanon County-Bollman > The first of this old Lebanon Co., was John Bollman, native of Germany, > who, with his wife, set sail in the good ship "Nancy", from Wurttember, > in 1738, settled in Lebanon Co. One of his sons, John (2) served in the > Rev. War, with the rank of Capt., he also had a son named John (3). > > Michael Bollman, son of John (3), was born in 1823, Mill Creek > township, Lebanon Co. His mother, Mary Bennethum, was born in Berks Co., > in the vicinity ofWomelsdorf, Berks Co. > Michael Bollman, married Lucetta Bubb, born in 1825, d/o Daniel and > granddaughter of Daniel Bubb, who in the 17th century, took up land and > settled near Shaefferstown, Lebanon Co. On the maternal side, Lucetta > Bubb was a d/o Sarah Miller, d/o Henry and granddaughter of Peter Miller > who also served in the Rev. > > Best Wishes, Geri