I just returned from a week's vacation, so I am a little late in joining this Baumgartner thread. I have a question on the Baumgartner surname. My direct line Hannes Ehrman/Ereman resided in Lancaster County, Pa. [he died in Warwick Township, Lancaster County, Pa.]. Hannes Ehrman/Ereman mentions a Hubert Baumgartner in his will. The will was written on 18 March 1773 and proved 5 April 1773. I suspect that Hubert Baumgartner was a grandchild of Hannes Ehrman/Ereman. It is hard to tell from the wording in the will, but Hubert's mother may have been named Canton. I do not have a record of Hannes Ehrman/Ereman having a daughter named Canton who married a Baumgartner, but it is very possible. Can anyone connect the early Baumgartners with the Ehrman family ? This is the wording in the 1773 will. I assume that Hubert was a minor child when the will was written. ".....then the remainder of the Money Shall be paid and divided share and share alike, Viz: to JOHN Ereman, GEORGE Ereman, MICH'L Ereman, to CANTON'S children which money or their share Hannes Duth as their Exrs. shall receive and so lay it out to their best advantage till ye are of Age HUBERT BAUMGARDNER and HANNES DUTH, or after age as they follow one after another." Linda In a message dated 4/14/2009 4:48:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Could anyone please tell me why my Bomgardner/Baumgarters of Newberry Twp (1790-1810) would suddenly show up in the 1820 Donegal Twp census? We've never been able to prove it, but have been told Christian Baumgartner b. 1763 was supposed to have married Betsy Shelly and I am aware the Shelly family owned quite a bit of land - particularly in Newberry Twp and on Shelly Island. I also see from Dr. Hively's maps/books, the land purchased by Christian Baumgartner in 1830 boardered Daniel Shelly's property in Newberry Twp. Interestingly enough, Daniel Shelly also purchased 315 acres from Albrecht Graff on Hill Island in 1760. Would Hill Island have been considered part of Lancaster County at that time? Did Hill Island have a township designation? The 1820 census for Donegal Twp, Lancaster Co, PA, pg 152, lists John Bomgardner, with 1 male btwn 16-26, 1 male btwn 26-45, 1 male 45 and up and 1 female 45 and up. Other Bomgardners are also listed in Donegal township (but only in the1820 census). Page 137 has two listings, one for Jacob Bomgardner and one for Emmanuel Bomgardner. On page 140 there are also two listings, one for Christian Bomgardner Sr. and Christian Bomgardner, Jr., plus the listing for John on page 152. I have a copy of John Baumgardner's indenture and his property in West Donegal Twp. - which his wife sold to John Grofs (Gross) after his death is described as follows: ... tract or lot of land, situate in West Donegal Township, Lancaster Co, aforesaid, and bounded and described as follows to wit; Beginning at a white oak, then by lands of David Coble, south thirty three degrees, east fourteen perches to the stone; thence by land of Henry Myers north fifty seven degrees, east ten perches to a stone and north thirty three degrees, west eighteen perches to a stone, thence by land of George Mister, south thirty eight degrees, west eight perches to the beginning, containing one acre. Next measure of land being part of a larger tract of patented land which John Shartle and John Albert, executors of the last will and testament of Martin Myers, deceased, by their indenture, made the 27th day of July 1810 for the consideration therein mentioned did grant and confirm unto Henry Myer, son of the said deceased, his heirs and afsigns forever and the said Henry Myer, by his indenture, dated the first day of April 1813? for the consideration therein mentioned did grant and confirm the said above mentioned and delivered part thereof containing one acre as aforesaid unto Peter Bishop, his heirs and afsigns, and the said Peter Bishop and Catherine, his wife. By their indenture, dated the 1st day of April 1815 for the consideration therein mentioned did grant and confirm the same unto John Baumgardner and to his heirs and afsigns forever as in and by the said several recited indentures duly executed, … being thereunto had more fully and at large appears by force and virtue of which said recited indenture or of some other good conveyances or assurances in the law duly had and executed the said John Baumgardner became in his lifetime lawfully seized in his demise as of …and in the said above mentioned and described … . and … of one acre of land with the appurtenances and being so thereof seized as aforesaid, he the said, John Baumgardner, made his last will and testament bearing date the 25th day of July 1823. According to Dr. Hively's book, Christian Baumgartner purchased land back in Newberry Twp in 1830. He was back in Newberry Twp by the 1830 census. I would really appreciate any ideas/suggestions as to why these Bomgardner/Baumgartners may have left Newberry for Donegal for a short season? It just doesn't make any sense to me. Thank you in advance for any help/suggestions, Sherry Shallenberger ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220814852x1201410738/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooter419NO62)